To be really glad I don't live in America right now

People who 'truly believe' in dangerous and harmful policies are often more dangerous than those who are less principled and can be persuaded to modify their policies in view of their own self-interest.

Hiller believed in his policies So did Stalin. Islamist suicide bombers are prepared to give their lives for their beliefs.

'Truly believing' in harmful causes makes you more dangerous, not less so.

Sky News did a podcast earlier this year that war gamed a scenario in which Russia attacks the UK. It's not implausible.

news.sky.com/story/the-wargame-podcast-what-if-russia-attacked-the-uk-13381047

If we withdrew aid, he'd probably have to stop fighting. And maybe we should- I don't think the cost in lives at this point is worth it. Nor do I think that Putin wants to take over Western Europe- though otoh I am still very wary.

I'm ex-military. If aid is withdrawn, the Ukrainians will keep fighting, and their local production of conventional arms, missiles and drones is quite respectable now. They need money and some military supplies that they don't or can't produce locally, but they'll fight the Russians with whatever they have. It's a war of national survival.

Putin likely does not want to occupy Western Europe, but he does want to occupy or have de facto control over Eastern Europe. He also wants to break up NATO and bully the Western European countries into submission with hybrid warfare tactics, sabotage and false flag operations. He's already used chemical weapons to kill people on British soil. I think the UK should have a very heathy fear of Russian intentions, and be prepared to counter them.

Hmm... so Europeans are 'sacrificing' Ukranian civilians to keep ours safe?

Otoh, I can see that we're relying on Ukraine to fight Russia rather than doing so ourselves.
Zelensky has always been strongly pro-fighting back, we haven't forced him into that position.

Maybe you're right that the most moral thing would be for Europe to directly intervene in Ukraine. However, I think you're making it more black and white than it truly is. A mass European entry to the war would be hugely unpopular with populations, and it would very likely lead to much higher loss of life than would otherwise happen. Is THAT a better moral option? Not go mention there is still a threat of nuclear war from Putin if more of us intervene.

If we withdrew aid, he'd probably have to stop fighting. And maybe we should- I don't think the cost in lives at this point is worth it. Nor do I think that Putin wants to take over Western Europe- though otoh I am still very wary.

Also, this disproves your point about the UK doing 'fuck all'. Like it or not, we HAVE contributed a lot with resources, sanction etc Dismissing that with 'fuck all' is ridiculous.

I have seen several people with DSDs posting on social media begging people to stop using the outdated, and in their opinion, demeaning term intersex. They are at pains to point out that they ARE either male or female - there is nothing in between.

DSDs are variations of sexual development in either XY or XX. The only time (as far as I know) that someone is genuinely both sexes is when a fetus absobs a twin of the opposite sex in the womb but these chimeras are vanishingly rare.

Nothing to do with gender ideology. Might be DSD but not always.

First line exactly. So we can stop gender ideology and deal with DSD separately

That's what is the issue, gender ideology

You’re a fool who keeps willfully ignoring what we are all writing.

everyone is either male or female. Everyone. I don’t care if they know it or not.

males going the mens

females in the women’s.

no excuses. Ever. Not one.

that’s it.

now away with you.

Oh I see. It's a POLICY decision you've adopted. Nothing to do with how things work in the real world. My apologies, I thought with your determined forceful communication style you actually did not believe there is such a thing as Intersex. But now I realise you have adopted a political stance. Well I'm sure wherever you live, that will work really well for you.

Thank you I'm not American but I assume some posters are so I was trying to use a term they might understand. I'm not a trans rights activist, on the contrary in real life I keep schtum about trans because my opinion is non PC.

In case you haven't noticed people who are intersex are often vilified. Hence they tend to stay out of MSM and often will only talk to media which is supportive. Yes it makes it hard to find unbiased media sources. But it is what it is.

Nothing to do with gender ideology. Might be DSD but not always.

PrickNews? Are you for real? Did you truly use that as a source? Nothing they post is true or realistic.

Did you just cite Pink News asan authority?! 😅😅🤣

Right? snort.

The Trans bullshit is just that, another pile of bullshit.

Why some people have decided to pretend humans can no longer tell the difference between men and women is beyond me.

Give it a fucking rest, just how fucking dumb do you want to look? EVERYBODY can tell! You can pretend if you want. But you can't make others. And by trying to force people to you only piss them off and hand ammunition to the right.

Dummies.

"They won't. Their voters are all older people, and there's simply not the numbers to make that happen."

@AnonymousBleep - young men in particular show high support for reform

Maybe try to engage with views you disagree with instead of condemning people who don't have the same opinions as you

You’re blind as well as unpleasant.

Oh I know this one!

It's because that would be as helpful as playground taunts of "..well.. well.. your mother is one too!"

if you have a rational point to make just make it.

Yes. I've said it 26 times

MALES IN THE MENS

FEMALES IN THE LADIES

ffs.

@MeTooOverHere I don't think the complexities of DSDs necessitate gender ideology. However a medical team determines sex for a complex case can be separate to requiring any gender ideology.

So no need for the latter and DSD situations can still be assessed.

I know how they relate, what I want to know is which one takes precedence? You actually think a person who has been raised female and socialised female has to use men's restrooms because of XY chromosomes? Is that your final answer?

Apologies. I've no idea if it originated in the US- you're the one using the term restroom so I was assuming you were from the US? "Restroom" is not a word I've ever heard used in the UK.

It means "trans rights activist", to save you valuable googling time.

Which of the three chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex takes precedence? You admit some people may be raised female though XY. So which of the three takes precedence?
I am not talking TRANS, I am talking INTERSEX.

He - is male. Thats the entire point

He is male. No arguments. No in-betweens. He is male. He has CAIS. We already went over this. Do you read?

Also - we are only talking about humans. Just people ok?

When determining sex, there isn’t a simple hierarchy that can be universally applied across all cases, but the chromosomal sex typically takes the highest precedence in biological classification. Here’s how each of these factors plays a role:

1. Chromosomal Sex (Genetic Sex): This is usually the first and most definitive determinant of biological sex. At conception, an individual’s sex is determined by the chromosomes inherited from the parents: XX for females and XY for males. The presence or absence of the Y chromosome, specifically the SRY gene on it, triggers the development of male characteristics. If the Y chromosome is present (XY), the person will typically develop male gonads (testes), and if it’s absent (XX), the person will typically develop female gonads (ovaries).
2. Gonadal Sex (Testes vs. Ovaries): Gonadal sex refers to whether the individual develops testes or ovaries. In most cases, the presence of the Y chromosome and SRY gene leads to the development of testes, which then secrete male hormones (androgens) that guide the development of male anatomical traits. In the absence of the Y chromosome (XX), ovaries develop, which, in turn, produce female hormones (estrogens) leading to the development of female anatomical traits.
3. Anatomical Sex (Phenotypic Sex): This is the external physical manifestation of sex, including genitalia and secondary sexual characteristics (e.g., body hair, breast development, etc.). Anatomical sex typically follows gonadal sex; for example, testes will lead to the development of male genitalia, and ovaries will lead to female genitalia. However, this can be influenced by factors like hormone exposure or receptor function (as seen in conditions like androgen insensitivity syndrome).
4. Genes (SRY Gene, Others): While chromosomal sex largely dictates the course of development, specific genes are responsible for sexual differentiation. For example, the SRY gene on the Y chromosome plays a key role in initiating male development. There are also other genes and regulatory elements that contribute to gonadal and anatomical differentiation. In some cases, individuals may have genetic mutations that affect their sexual development (e.g., mutations in the AR gene leading to androgen insensitivity), which can result in discrepancies between chromosomal sex and anatomical sex.

In a typical biological scenario, chromosomal sex takes precedence as it sets the foundation for subsequent development. Gonadal and anatomical sex follow this chromosomal blueprint, with genes playing a critical role in this developmental process. However, intersex conditions, where discrepancies occur between chromosomal, gonadal, and anatomical sex, highlight the complexity and variability in how biological sex can be expressed.