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To think eventually, UK could become a part of the USA?

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CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

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MushMonster · 27/01/2025 17:45

Why not give him the whole world? He seems ready to take it!

Now, seriously, nope UK will always be UK, thanks.

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 17:43

I'd really love to know how many people in UK who think it's a good idea for us to become another state of USA were the same ones who voted for Brexit?
Can they not see the irony?

As I suggested, they weren't the brightest and best.

whaddayawannado · 27/01/2025 17:42

InDogweRust · 27/01/2025 17:40

And there is not a lot of UK support for trump
Most of us think he's a twat?

No need to bother with that question mark.😂

bombastix · 27/01/2025 17:41

Seriously the US should aim higher. They usually go for places with natural resources like oil.

We have whisky and benefit claimants as growth industries if you believe Reform

dottiehens · 27/01/2025 17:41

Needmorelego · 27/01/2025 12:21

Well they once had a war to become free of us.
I think we'd have to say "sorry.....too late to change your mind now".

Hahahaha….. yeah right as in Trump does know what the U.K. has become. BTW it is not that he has a lot of support here is that we are to the neck on shit from every side. Therefore, we will get a Trump equivalent here to clean the mess.

What a ridiculous post.

InDogweRust · 27/01/2025 17:40

And there is not a lot of UK support for trump
Most of us think he's a twat?

InDogweRust · 27/01/2025 17:39

Given that i think a huge part of our population would strongly resist this and we would have international military support if we needed it, this is astonishingly unlikely. The rest of the world would band together if the USA dared to try and take over a large developed economy.

Porcelainpig · 27/01/2025 17:38

BallerinaRadio · 27/01/2025 12:24

Of all the stupid posts I've seen on here lately... This is definitely the stupidest.

Even more so if it's actually genuine and not a wind up.

I doubt it is. It can't be. It has the 'so many people like him' line, which tries to convince you to go with the suposed consensus, and it makes it so obvious.

I wish this shit would fuck off these boards.

There are very few people I know that don't think he's a bellend. The ones that sort of think he's a good idea are the types that think you have to burn something down in order to repair it.

bombastix · 27/01/2025 17:38

Are you from the University of Hard Knocks and Tough Surpises?

I think some Americans have been telling the English that we are on the verge of being commie limey fags for as long as I have been alive.

Quite why they'd be interested in occupying us now rather than at any other point needs some explanation

LittleBowSheep · 27/01/2025 17:36

I'd really love to know how many people in UK who think it's a good idea for us to become another state of USA were the same ones who voted for Brexit?
Can they not see the irony?

I would suggest that anyone, either here on MN or their numerous alleged friends and acquittances who support this ridiculous suggestion, can just emigrate there if they think their lives would be better.

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 27/01/2025 17:36

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 17:12

Denmark said fuck you. Egede of Greenland has said they want independence from Denmark, but not to be part of the US. Sounds like the opening bid in a negotiation to me. Egede might have some brains.

Canadians and Americans are too different to merge, although I do actually know one Canadian in Alberta who wants Alberta to join the US, but I don't see that happening either. Americans don't want it any more than Canadians do.

What Trump really wants is for you to control your border. The opening bid in the negotiations is "I'll take Canada." Not because he wants Canada. In military terms, he's shaping the battlefield. Trump went to a military high school and I recognize some of his strategies: disorient your enemy, come out of nowhere, catch 'em off-guard, etc. Trump's next bid, which he's already gone to, is tariffs. Not because he wants tariffs. He doesn't want tariffs. We're your largest trading partners by far. Tariffs would hurt Canada badly. Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border. He's told you and Trudeau what he wants, and it's not been done. It's really not too much to ask.

Yes I stand corrected - thank you.

Its an interesting thought. Alberta I would suggest is more about wanting not to pay GST because of oil money and having a non tax province before this came along back in the PST days. But I seriously doubt on balance most would want to go.

Trudeau is on his way out as he has resigned so it will be interesting to see who gets elected/chosen as party leader next.

Yes 80% of Canadian trade is with the US and Trump has already ripped up NAFTA (democratically agreed by Canada, US and Mexico). It was supposed to cripple Mexico and it didn’t (when it was first introduced).

I think what Trump conveniently forgets that a lot of the imports to the US are because goods are cheaper, not available in the US or made by Canadian materials for US goods - cars, natural resources etc spring to mind. Let’s also not forget that Canada exports electricity to the US to the tune of about five million homes. So sure the US buys that electricity which we export but it’s because the US doesn’t have enough of its own in some areas. Not to mention enormous amounts of crude petroleum, minerals and petroleum gas which cannot easily if at all be made in the US. Yes cars could but they would then be much more expensive and the steel in these cars is in part mined In Canada.

As for the border, yeah there are problems but Americans control the border on their side in most major places - unless of course most people crossing from Canada to the US are doing so illegally in Saskatchewan….so they need to tighten up too. Easy to blame us but just as much for the Americans to address. Additionally let’s not forget that when Trump was elected the first time the Canadian Immigration website crashed due to the overwhelming response from Americans who wanted to immigrate. Or until we had health photo ID cards Americans were sieving across the border for healthcare.

Still he can’t just ‘decide’ he owns a country and take it over…..

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 17:35

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 17:29

Trudeau has gone - sadly.

Had a brain fart-sorry.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 17:33

WaryCrow · 27/01/2025 16:56

Well that’s a lie. Are you really in America? Or just having fun? Not seeing the humour myself.

Not to hijack the thread, but you challenged me. I'm a born and bred daughter of the American south, darlin'. My ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War. My father fought in Europe in WW2 and I also volunteered my body in the service of US foreign policy for waay too many years.

I've lived in 13 states and two foreign countries, and I've spent time in some real garden spots at Uncle Sam's request. I have had a traumatic brain and spinal cord injury, which leaves me with moderate mobility issues. So I spend a lot of time here.

You want to know what healthcare system in the US really sucks? The fucking VA. That's the system for injured military veterans. It's single-payer, and it's a disgrace. No thank you on an NHS system. I've seen the VA in action (or inaction) with friends, and it's horrific. No.

bombastix · 27/01/2025 17:33

@EasternStandard a very useful bit of Scottish slang imo

EasternStandard · 27/01/2025 17:31

Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border.

Agree tariffs are just a way to get what the US wants, look at Colombia

Goldenbear · 27/01/2025 17:29

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 17:12

Denmark said fuck you. Egede of Greenland has said they want independence from Denmark, but not to be part of the US. Sounds like the opening bid in a negotiation to me. Egede might have some brains.

Canadians and Americans are too different to merge, although I do actually know one Canadian in Alberta who wants Alberta to join the US, but I don't see that happening either. Americans don't want it any more than Canadians do.

What Trump really wants is for you to control your border. The opening bid in the negotiations is "I'll take Canada." Not because he wants Canada. In military terms, he's shaping the battlefield. Trump went to a military high school and I recognize some of his strategies: disorient your enemy, come out of nowhere, catch 'em off-guard, etc. Trump's next bid, which he's already gone to, is tariffs. Not because he wants tariffs. He doesn't want tariffs. We're your largest trading partners by far. Tariffs would hurt Canada badly. Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border. He's told you and Trudeau what he wants, and it's not been done. It's really not too much to ask.

Trudeau has gone - sadly.

CeceliaImrie · 27/01/2025 17:27

@ChessorBuckaroo
People like you are the reason I stay on here, great knowledge share, thank you.

LifeExperience · 27/01/2025 17:12

Whydoeseveryonewanttoargue · 27/01/2025 16:29

Over both our countries collective dead bodies. Greenland have already said Fuck you directly to Trump (direct quote from their leader) and Canada feels the same way. It would be a very cold day in hell before either of these countries became American.

Just because you want another country to be yours doesn’t mean that it will be.

Denmark said fuck you. Egede of Greenland has said they want independence from Denmark, but not to be part of the US. Sounds like the opening bid in a negotiation to me. Egede might have some brains.

Canadians and Americans are too different to merge, although I do actually know one Canadian in Alberta who wants Alberta to join the US, but I don't see that happening either. Americans don't want it any more than Canadians do.

What Trump really wants is for you to control your border. The opening bid in the negotiations is "I'll take Canada." Not because he wants Canada. In military terms, he's shaping the battlefield. Trump went to a military high school and I recognize some of his strategies: disorient your enemy, come out of nowhere, catch 'em off-guard, etc. Trump's next bid, which he's already gone to, is tariffs. Not because he wants tariffs. He doesn't want tariffs. We're your largest trading partners by far. Tariffs would hurt Canada badly. Nobody wants that. He wants you to control your border. He's told you and Trudeau what he wants, and it's not been done. It's really not too much to ask.

Macrodatarefiner · 27/01/2025 17:09

user1471516498 · 27/01/2025 15:12

I imagine people would say the same about being taken over by any country.

The Scots were told to suck it up when they were taken over by the English

MissConductUS · 27/01/2025 17:08

cardibach · 27/01/2025 16:50

I don’t even think of American as a lost colony, sorry to disappoint you. And while you’ve done very well economically, it’s not hatred to say social policies are not th8ngs I like. The health system is positively cruel, the rampant use of guns is scary and the more or less total lack of workers’ rights is positively backward looking for us. It’s not hatred of America to say that - before even mentioning Trump, who I actually probably do hate. He represents a lot of the things I hate anyway - rampant greed, homophobia, misogyny, racism, sexual incontinence and exploitation of sex workers.

Anyone who can't see the anti-American bias here is either willfully blind or massively unconsciously biased.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5185753-to-ask-why-americans-seem-fixated-on-conspiracy-theories?reply=138989679

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4901138-wait-what-americans-dont-put-butter-in-their-sandwiches

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/3342486-Do-you-dislike-Americans?reply=80392048

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4952766-americans-are-lazy-cooks?page=1

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SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 17:07

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 27/01/2025 17:01

Oh was that why? I could've sworn it was because they didn't want Brussels dictating how powerful a vaccum cleaner or light bulb they could have!

That's what they said. I'm not sure I believed them.

Especially as the singular thing about the UK is the lack of post 2020 high power vacuum cleaners and lightbulbs you could see from space.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 27/01/2025 17:01

SerendipityJane · 27/01/2025 16:58

When the UK voted brexit the brexit voting types often said they wanted to bring back the British Empire - not become part of an American Empire!

Admittedly they weren't our brightest and best though.

Oh was that why? I could've sworn it was because they didn't want Brussels dictating how powerful a vaccum cleaner or light bulb they could have!

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 27/01/2025 16:59

CyanSeal · 27/01/2025 12:20

Depending on how Trump gets on … he doesn’t seem shy about taking over other countries. On paper it would make sense globally for the UK and the USA to become one … USA, Canada,UK - what a superpower that would be.

on top of this, there is a hell of a lot of UK support for Trump, I don’t even think the British would object to a takeover on the whole

Seems far fetched I know - but less far fetched that it did a few years ago

Are you ok? Maybe a sit down and some sweet tea.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 27/01/2025 16:58

blackbird77 · 27/01/2025 16:57

You’re an idiot

Anyone in particular?