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Is it o.k to let your 11 year old daughter hang out on the local park?

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Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 13:28

Reasonable - Of course it's fine, all the other kids are, can't keep them locked in forever, got to start somewhere, build up trust time, etc

Unreasonable - No way, don't send her to the wolves, she isn't street wise, way too young, gangs of teenagers, creeps and weirdos, county lines, worst place possible to hang out, etc

Hi

Just looking for advice, preferably from parents who have been through this before or are going through it. My daughter is 11 in Yr7 and it's time to give her some more freedom. She's had sleep overs at friends and gone to friends houses etc.

She has a phone and has been walking to and from her new secondary school with her friends so far so has been getting used to that, but not really across the park, just sticking to the streets.

Recently she has been asking to meet with some friends after school on a Friday on the park and we have a few concerns but also don't want to be strict over-bearing parents and realise we need to allow her some time out of the house to just hang around with her friends.

The issue is it's getting darker and as a local urban park usually does, attracts older kids/ teens most likely a bit of dodgy this and that going on, Friday night after dark is not safe I don't think.

She then asked to meet some friends in the day between 2-4 - we said o.k this sounds fine..who are you meeting? Bit of a sketchy answer, umm I think so and so is going, maybe ...then I asked if they could call for her so we know who it is - nope this isn't the plan. Then it turns out she wants to meet a boy in her year group and it is just going to be those two. I feel uncomfortable about this as A) never met him, not sure where he lives or anything - this is a new friend she's met at school...B) She's not yet even tried hanging out with a few of her girl mates on the park yet.

I've said no to this this time until we know who he is and she said they both understand and perhaps mums can swop numbers and arrange something. I don't want to make her feel embarrassed if this is a new boyfriend by monitoring everything and introducing parents and all that..but equally need to know where she is who she is with and safeguard her.

How the hell has this all crept up so soon!!

How does everyone else deal with it. What are your thoughts please

Cheers

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Shootin · 30/10/2024 20:05

Tell her it might be funny but you are doing what every caring parent would do. 💐

Shootin · 30/10/2024 19:59

Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:46

@ladykale or parents that are new to this transitional stage and want to do what's best all round, including being child-centred.

It's easier when they are younger to keep them safe..you just think you've got a handle on it then bam, they are at secondary school. This age is quite difficult with new moral dilemmas as they grow up

Yes it’s easier when they are younger - you know where they are!!
It’s getting the balance right!! It is hard OP.
When they are 18 it’s the night clubs. Waiting for them to come home safely. Going to Uni.
My kids are now 24 and 26 years old.
Of course you want them to have a good time, but the key is to drill it into them about safety.
i tell them if you go out with friends you come home with friends. 👍

Savingthehedgehogs · 30/10/2024 19:55

Have you explained that at eleven she is too young for boyfriends, that smart girls focus on their studies until university? Have you asked her why she would want or need a boyfriend?

I would challenge this op, and suggest she refers to him as her friend. Boyfriends can sometimes come with expectations. Even at eleven.

Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:50

@Shootin yes I questioned this...she understands and looked shocked but I said...I can't just let you go and meet a new boy I've never met. It could be a 30 year old called Dave for all I know and she laughed

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Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:46

@ladykale or parents that are new to this transitional stage and want to do what's best all round, including being child-centred.

It's easier when they are younger to keep them safe..you just think you've got a handle on it then bam, they are at secondary school. This age is quite difficult with new moral dilemmas as they grow up

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moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 30/10/2024 19:46

Angry yes, and I've even seen it among children younger than that.

Shootin · 30/10/2024 19:42

ZippyDenimBear · 30/10/2024 14:50

No way!!

At least get him to pick her up from yours and walk down there together. Or drop them both off together and pick them up?

Are you sure it's someone from school and not someone shes met online?

This!
Is the boy really in year7? Is she telling the truth?

If it was me i would not let her go to the park. Even nice areas have got weirdos around. You are not safe no where these days. By all means tell her he can call for her and hang around the street together.

Its hard OP but you dont want her to rebel but shes only 11.

Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:41

@Savingthehedgehogs Thankyou I will. I want to be in the know, as much as it is horrifying and hard to read..it's out there isn't it. I was aware of county lines before but no harm in catching up with how these tactics progress and what to look out for.

Thankyou for your valuable information

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ladykale · 30/10/2024 19:39

WitcheryDivine · 30/10/2024 19:31

kids at my school were definitely snogging at the very least with boyfriends in Year 8, those without protective parents were up to all sorts at the same sort of age. And yes I mean sex acts. Just because we know they’re underage it doesn’t mean they care.

Absolutely no chance would I let mine out in the park unsupervised at 11 - as you say OP you don’t even want to be there yourself after dark. At least in 3 or 4 years she’ll be bigger and a bit wiser.

Yea lots of incredibly naive parents on this chat!!

Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:33

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 30/10/2024 19:18

I would allow it (once I knew the boy and his parents) but that's just me.

I would definitely not assume there was anything dodgy or sexual about two 11 year olds calling themselves boyfriend and girlfriend. Boyfriend and girlfriend at that age just involves hanging out, maybe holding hands especially if their friends are around, because it's mainly just about the prestige of being seen to be going out with someone. When they're alone they'll probably just chat.

Exactly this. It's up to them what they call each other as platonic 11 year old friends. Other people are projecting older attributes onto this. No need.

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Savingthehedgehogs · 30/10/2024 19:33

I also wanted to add that this is precisely where dealers hoover up young kids for county lines. There have been multiple instances of young children being recruited in these settings.

Once they become immersed in county lines it’s virtually impossible to get them out again. You lose them to an underworld of drugs and criminal gangs. It is an horrendous situation to end up in. We have worked with families that have had to fully relocate 500 miles away with new lives, because their children were being hunted down by city dealers and gang members.

Kids that hang out at parks are perfect prey. They even have a ready made cover story of where they are, with lots of unfettered access to schools and fall under the police radar because they are so young.

WitcheryDivine · 30/10/2024 19:32

I know she’s Year 7 but my point is - that’s not far off. Don’t assume young kids are just talking about films etc. Some will be but others won’t be. As a PP said there’s a big gap between protected kids and those who aren’t at this age.

WitcheryDivine · 30/10/2024 19:31

kids at my school were definitely snogging at the very least with boyfriends in Year 8, those without protective parents were up to all sorts at the same sort of age. And yes I mean sex acts. Just because we know they’re underage it doesn’t mean they care.

Absolutely no chance would I let mine out in the park unsupervised at 11 - as you say OP you don’t even want to be there yourself after dark. At least in 3 or 4 years she’ll be bigger and a bit wiser.

Whatsitreallylike · 30/10/2024 19:22

NPET · 30/10/2024 13:53

This is SO weird!
I mean I'm 20, and 9 years ago I was hating the fact that my parents were trying to keep a tight rein on me, and of course as an extrovert mouthy 11 year old I defied them and met my mates anyway.
BUT because of that, because I know only too well the creeps who prey on pre-teen girls, because I've suffered myself, I'd now say NO WAY should you let her go to the park, especially if it's not completely light (things that happened to myself & my bff happened when it was beginning to get dark).
Gosh - it's horrible growing up isn't it??

I second this. I hung out at the park with friends at this age growing up. Not a chance I’d let my children do the same based on my experience.

AngryBird6122 · 30/10/2024 19:20

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 30/10/2024 19:18

I would allow it (once I knew the boy and his parents) but that's just me.

I would definitely not assume there was anything dodgy or sexual about two 11 year olds calling themselves boyfriend and girlfriend. Boyfriend and girlfriend at that age just involves hanging out, maybe holding hands especially if their friends are around, because it's mainly just about the prestige of being seen to be going out with someone. When they're alone they'll probably just chat.

"because it's mainly just about the prestige of being seen to be going out with someone" 🙄 these are 11 year olds we are talking about right?

AngryBird6122 · 30/10/2024 19:19

Yes, they are just children. I certainly would not be encouraging my 11 year old to be calling anyone a boyfriend, or me not wanting to embarrass her around her 'new boyfriend' as you said. Ridiculous IMO

(no I am not imagining they are up to anything dodgy fgs)

moonshinepoursthroughmywindow · 30/10/2024 19:18

I would allow it (once I knew the boy and his parents) but that's just me.

I would definitely not assume there was anything dodgy or sexual about two 11 year olds calling themselves boyfriend and girlfriend. Boyfriend and girlfriend at that age just involves hanging out, maybe holding hands especially if their friends are around, because it's mainly just about the prestige of being seen to be going out with someone. When they're alone they'll probably just chat.

Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:12

Amyknows · 30/10/2024 19:09

I know right? No wonder all these out of control kids come from. This is a small child , and op thinks having a boyfriend is cute.

🙄

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Sammy900 · 30/10/2024 19:11

@Amyknows haha she's really not like that, she just simply wants to hang out with her mates outside and has asked if she can

@V0xPopuli That's what I envisage really with the "boyfriend" thing

Some people are really misunderstanding what a boyfriend/ girlfriend type of friendship is at age 11 - keep your wigs on it's nothing forward beyond their years..they are just children

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Amyknows · 30/10/2024 19:09

AngryBird6122 · 30/10/2024 18:56

Eleven? Eleven??? With boyfriends/ girlfriends they meet for drinks etc? This thread has shocked me!

I know right? No wonder all these out of control kids come from. This is a small child , and op thinks having a boyfriend is cute.

V0xPopuli · 30/10/2024 19:05

My nephew is yr7 and has a female friend. Their friends make a lot of "girlfriend" jokes but really its just platonic. They go for walks.

I think at 2-4pm in middle of the day you can't really police a secondary school kid meeting a friend.

However - if she has been texting him etc, you should know about it already. Don't you have access to her phone?

Thewildthingsarewithme · 30/10/2024 19:00

Honestly avoid the hanging out in the park like the plague! I’m staying at my mums for half term, super affluent area where the local school is massively over subscribed and outstanding. Took my two v small children to the park at 3.30. There were three groups of what looked to be yr 7 possibly year 8 kids in local school uniform, most were vaping, the language they were using was absolutely vile and they were talking about sex very explicitly, it was disgusting. As a secondary school teacher I would always have teenagers in my own house with doors open or on planned outings - costa/cinema/ a sport and would pick them up and drop them off

Snorlaxo · 30/10/2024 18:59

If it was the summer then 4-6 would be fine (well, in my area anyway. ) The dark brings an extra level of required vigilance and this is not the time for learning. Once it’s spring and lighter for longer then I would be happy with my y7 being out after school but until then I would tell her to stick to well light public places like a shopping centre in the afternoon or a coffee shop for an hour. It will hopefully be too cold for outdoor meetings soon which will help your case.