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To think 25 is too late to find the LOML

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BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 13:41

I met the love of my life, but he moved away to Australia for a great job and found a wife a few years later. I know that if he hadn't moved, we would still be together and be married with kids. He is what I would describe as a 'high value' man: employed, beautiful, 6', kind, good with kids, funny, athletic, loyal, wrote me poems, passionate, romantic, domestic, did all housework. I am green with envy towards his wife.

It seems like even the least desirable men in society still discard me after a few weeks. I mean men who are unemployed, ugly, hate children, short, mean, minimum wage, addicted to porn and or video games, abusive, broke etc.

Why is it that I was able to attract one high value man in my entire life who became absolutely psychotically crazily madly in love with me but can't even seem to find anyone with more than two of the same aforementioned traits?

I'm told (mainly by friends mothers I admit) that I am an 'attractive' woman. I have friends, my own house, an Oxford education and a good job and I normally try to suppress my neediness and fragility in relationships but it seems to always bubble to the surface despite how hard I try to mask it. I end up feeling used and discarded. I am utterly miserable and my mother and sister have no issues finding or maintaining a man.

I'm pitiful and the humiliation of being disposed of so frequently is driving me to some very dark thoughts.

OP posts:
mindutopia · 25/09/2024 18:06

I met Dh when I was 28 and then I moved half way around the world probably the same distance as Australia because I had to return to my home country due to visa issues. It didn’t stop us having a relationship and we got married 2 years later and I could move to live with him. That was 15 years ago.

What will scare (decent) men off though is being broken inside. You need to have worked on yourself. Be solid in who you are. Love the life you are living. Be passionate about things, etc to attract the right sort of person. I wasn’t that at 21 or 25. It took time for me to figure myself out and start putting the right beacon out to the universe to not attract the wankers.

Honestly, I’d get some therapy and I’d start planning the sort of exciting life you want to live. I only met Dh because I binned a job that was making me miserable and took off travelling and to take a job overseas on a whim.

JubileeJuice · 25/09/2024 18:04

My now DH had the opportunity to move to Australia for work, about 6 months into our relationship. He would have been on 5x what he was here and he loves the sun.

There is no way he would have gone and left me behind. The money meant nothing compared to me. He won't even go and visit relatives there because he knows I hate flying and doesn't want to leave me behind. I've asked him to go, told him to go, but nope. And that's 15 years in!

If he loved you, he wouldn't have gone. Money meant more to him. He's met the love of his life there.

GiddyRobin · 25/09/2024 17:54

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:53

I meant to put it in past tense, my apologies.

Same thing applies. If he loved you and you couldn't go, he'd have stayed or changed his plans.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:53

GiddyRobin · 25/09/2024 17:51

He's living on the other side of the world, married to another woman. I'm pretty sure he's not in love with you. That's not harsh, it's just common sense.

My DH was intending to go back to Norway around the time we met. He didn't. He stayed and married me, had kids with me, and now we're going together in a couple of years as my career will be where it needs to be.

If he loved you then, he'd have stayed. If he loved you now, he'd not be married to someone else.

I meant to put it in past tense, my apologies.

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mn29 · 25/09/2024 17:53

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:47

Why do Mumsnetters constantly oscillate between urging younger users to have standards and punishing anyone who does by suggesting they're arrogant? Pick a side.

Standards means not accepting being treated badly, eg cheated on, being controlled, disrespected etc etc.

Having standards doesn’t mean men have to earn loads and be good looking (and tall, apparently), ffs.

Give me a short, balding man who earns just enough to get by but values me and treats me like an equal over a smooth-talking, Oxbridge-educated 6’2 high earner who has no respect for me or our relationship any day.

Newposter180 · 25/09/2024 17:52

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:45

I am glad my ex is not living on a poverty wage. I am genuinely happy for him. It was the right choice for him. Harsh to say it means he doesn't love me.

I should hope he doesn’t love you given that he’s married to someone else!

GiddyRobin · 25/09/2024 17:51

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:45

I am glad my ex is not living on a poverty wage. I am genuinely happy for him. It was the right choice for him. Harsh to say it means he doesn't love me.

He's living on the other side of the world, married to another woman. I'm pretty sure he's not in love with you. That's not harsh, it's just common sense.

My DH was intending to go back to Norway around the time we met. He didn't. He stayed and married me, had kids with me, and now we're going together in a couple of years as my career will be where it needs to be.

If he loved you then, he'd have stayed. If he loved you now, he'd not be married to someone else.

Phen0menon · 25/09/2024 17:51

You really need to work on your self esteem.

That's self as in distinct from a relationship, how men/others may or may not view you.

All people are valuable, there's no one "attractive" combination of traits, we all like different things.

What makes you happy/smile? Do more of it.
Which people in your life treat you the best? Spend more time with them.
What makes you feel bad? Don't do it or remove it from your life.

Every single day, take a piece of paper and write down 3 things you love about yourself

PepaWepa · 25/09/2024 17:50

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:45

I am glad my ex is not living on a poverty wage. I am genuinely happy for him. It was the right choice for him. Harsh to say it means he doesn't love me.

Why didn't you join him? Why did he marry someone else?
If this isn't a troll post, it sounds like limerance could be at play. Which actually wouldn't be surprising among a self-confessed 'femcel'.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:47

WestwardHo1 · 25/09/2024 17:36

It seems like even the least desirable men in society still discard me after a few weeks. I mean men who are unemployed, ugly, hate children, short, mean, minimum wage, addicted to porn and or video games, abusive, broke etc.

YABU to lump "short" in with those. "Minimum wage" too.

What makes you so great?

Pretty sure this twatty OP isn't real

Why do Mumsnetters constantly oscillate between urging younger users to have standards and punishing anyone who does by suggesting they're arrogant? Pick a side.

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PepaWepa · 25/09/2024 17:47

Agree you sound like you have low self esteem. Not only have you convinced yourself someone else's husband is the love of your life, you've also convinced yourself it's entirely normal and understandable to leave the 'love of your life' for money.

Pogggle · 25/09/2024 17:47

Missingpotatocroquettes · 25/09/2024 13:48

Why is this written like a Reddit incel impersonating a woman? All the high value stuff and being used up by the grand old age of 25?

Exactly what I thought. I would be very surprised if this was a 25 year old woman

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:45

Newposter180 · 25/09/2024 17:36

There’s always a choice.

I am glad my ex is not living on a poverty wage. I am genuinely happy for him. It was the right choice for him. Harsh to say it means he doesn't love me.

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Hellogoodbyehello4321 · 25/09/2024 17:45

If this is a serious post then you need serious counselling to work on your self esteem. Your user name is very concerning.
I can't tell if it's a piss take because no one in their right mind would think 25 is too old to find a man. Most ppl I know didn't meet their significant other until at least then.
And why define yourself by a man anyway. Dont waste your 20s wishing for what you don't have, work on yourself and appreciate what you have. Youth, and a world of possibility - whether that be with a man or not.

And ppl aren't defined by being high value. You really need to do some work on yourself to understand why a lack of man is defining you. I mean even if you were older I'd still be a bit concerned but at 25, you are hardly left on the shelf ffs.

Cherrysoup · 25/09/2024 17:41

Blimey, your ‘high value’ is my absolute lowest bar! I suggest therapy, you seem to have very low self esteem. I met the loml at 26, married at 28, still together 26 years later. You may well find that once you value yourself, others will also value you!

Comtesse · 25/09/2024 17:39

Washed up at 25? No no that’s just not true. You’ve got to keep trucking!

Uricon2 · 25/09/2024 17:38

@BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan

You're having a pity party because bloke from years ago is easy to see in an entirely positive, wistful light when new (and very young ) bloke has dumped you. Lots of us have done this so no judgement, but please do try to see that you are very young yourself, at the start of your life and there are probably a few more frogs waiting to be kissed before you meet someone who wants what you do. It might not help you much, but better to focus on this truth (for I know it to be truth) than lambast a load of people online.

WestwardHo1 · 25/09/2024 17:36

It seems like even the least desirable men in society still discard me after a few weeks. I mean men who are unemployed, ugly, hate children, short, mean, minimum wage, addicted to porn and or video games, abusive, broke etc.

YABU to lump "short" in with those. "Minimum wage" too.

What makes you so great?

Pretty sure this twatty OP isn't real

Newposter180 · 25/09/2024 17:36

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:17

Yes I'm sure. Many have said here that he wasn't the love of my life because he moved to australia. The salary he was offered there is $150,000 per year compared to £30k for the same job in the UK, so he didn't have much choice. Additionally, I wasn't able to get citizenship there.

There’s always a choice.

Missingpotatocroquettes · 25/09/2024 17:34

Op, being a self-proclaimed "femcel" will not be helping you. The andrew Tate redpill high/low value stuff is really gross and other people can probably sense it in your attitude. It's just not attractive to anyone. I would recommend getting some therapy and working on changing your outlook.

You're only 25! You have so much time and you're so young. Good luck!

housethatbuiltme · 25/09/2024 17:34

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:17

Yes I'm sure. Many have said here that he wasn't the love of my life because he moved to australia. The salary he was offered there is $150,000 per year compared to £30k for the same job in the UK, so he didn't have much choice. Additionally, I wasn't able to get citizenship there.

Why would you need a citizenship?

You can go to Australia as a backpacker, they have some of the most lapsed control in the world especially if your coming from somewhere like the UK. Its basically stay as long as you like.... OK, its not, you can get a 12 month backpack workers visa. Or you could get a holiday visa (which doesn't allow work) where technically have to leave every 3 months but theres no limit on how long you need to be gone for or how many time you can come and go so basically as long as you take 4 holidays a year to another country and your super rich wildly in love perfect man supports you then your golden.

Seems like either you weren't welcome (not loved by him) or didn't want to go (so can't have loved him that much).

WhatIsThisTomFoolery24 · 25/09/2024 17:32

I mean this in the nicest way, but you scream "desperate". This is what will be putting off potential suitors. I think you need to just relax a bit and try not to force the process. It will happen when it's meant to. In the mean time, spend your time with friends/hobbies/travel etc.

Having a man is NOT the pinnacle of life, it is not the be all and end all.

BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:29

VickyEadieofThigh · 25/09/2024 17:22

Nobody tries to get "citizenship" before moving to Australia - first of all, you try to get a work visa. I'm very surprised a high value person like you with your Oxford degree didn't get one of those. Why didn't My LOML marry you and take you with him as his spouse?

And how many years ago was this, exactly? Of youreonly 25 now?

Can you direct me to where I called myself a high value person?

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BetterOffDeadWillNeverFindAMan · 25/09/2024 17:27

housethatbuiltme · 25/09/2024 17:26

Of course he did and OP would too... thats the point.

In OP's world its all about how rich and good looking you are so money clearly comes above people and thats exactly why he is perfect.

I mean what is he too do, stay here with OP and end up being in the same category as those minimum wage broke losers of low value? Then OP wouldn't love him anymore.

Jesus where the hell did I say or even imply any of that? I don't believe that and it is no my view, nor did i say it. I'm just looking for advice on how to improve, why has that made me the subject of your vitriol?

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housethatbuiltme · 25/09/2024 17:26

Of course he did and OP would too... thats the point.

In OP's world its all about how rich and good looking you are so money clearly comes above people and thats exactly why he is perfect.

I mean what is he too do, stay here with OP and end up being in the same category as those minimum wage broke losers of low value? Then OP wouldn't love him anymore.