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To make a new male dad friend

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Geriatricmillenial · 17/09/2024 08:13

I was at the swimming pool with my daughter when she started playing with another little girl, who was there with her dad. We did the usual parent chat on and off while they played, then both happened to be in the cafe afterwards so sat together. The girls got on super well and it just felt easy and friendly. The dad is often off work with her on the same day I am so asked if I wanted to swap numbers to do a play date, which I did. We had some generic texts to arrange to meet at the farm I normally go to the following week.

I told my husband about it and asked if it was ok, and it is a novel situation. I have had this scenario countless times with other mums but never a dad. My husband was a bit funny about it, which I understood, but for the last week have been making jokes e.g. about my ‘boyfriend’ and knew that I had made a plan to meet up. We have spoken about it and I asked several times if it’s ok.

Then last night he told me he was very ‘angry’ that I wasn’t considering his feelings, and that it wasn’t ok for me to text and meet up with a man, a ‘stranger’.

It’s complicated by the fact that we have just started couples counselling (for long standing reasons - it’s actually helped us be in a more positive place so I don’t see us as at crisis point). Husband is actually seeing our couples counsellor while I would be meeting this other dad as I need to be out of the house, which to him adds insult to injury.

I have always had male friends but for various reasons am not close to any at the moment, so perhaps part of me misses this. I don’t know if this man would become a friend (100% I don’t want any more than that), but I was looking forward to the opportunity to pass the time with another person I seemed to get on ok with. But due to the row last night I have cancelled.

AIBU to have created this situation?

OP posts:
Ivehearditbothways · 17/09/2024 20:02

StripyShirt · 17/09/2024 17:55

Would he have asked for your number if you'd been a man? No.

The guy isn’t single. He’s just off work that day so it’s his day to watch his kid. He swapped numbers because the kids got on and it means they can play together.

I’ve that done loads of times, at school, at clubs, at the park, at swimming.

Mumsnet is full of weirdos.

gannett · 17/09/2024 19:25

I don't see anything unusual, let alone untoward, in making new friends of the opposite sex, and hanging out with them one-on-one if those happen to be the easiest circumstances. Done it many times, so has DP.

But then I'm not in a relationship that's ever required couples counselling.

StripyShirt · 17/09/2024 17:55

Would he have asked for your number if you'd been a man? No.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 17/09/2024 17:50

It's very clear from your messages that this isn't about the children playing, it's about you wanting to make friends with this man. You're just using the playdate to facilitate it. I'm not surprised your husband is unhappy about it.

OnYourTogs · 17/09/2024 17:23

My DH was the main carer when our DS was young. He often met with mothers (and fathers) for play dates, at the playground etc. I was happy for him and my DS. However, we had and have a very strong relationship, made me feel secure

ChickAndTheDuck · 17/09/2024 17:22

It's balancing things out too. OPs DH is clearly unsettled by it so what's more important, having a play date or DHs feelings? Not going on the play date isn't going to cause the OP any harm but going on it could cause harm to the marriage.

ChickAndTheDuck · 17/09/2024 17:20

@DesigningWoman I was meaning friends that were made before the relationship to her DH.

newnamethanks · 17/09/2024 16:30

Yes you have created it. And you know it.

CompSc4542 · 17/09/2024 16:06

CompSc4542 · 17/09/2024 16:02

The real question to ask yourself is: If this were my husband going on a playdate with a single mum, how would I feel?

You might say you'd be okay with it, but is that truly how you feel or is it just for MN appearances? If you're genuinely fine with it, then by all means, do what you feel is best. But if not, don't be a hypocrite.

Case in point here, the other side:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5142738-feel-that-dh-friendship-with-woman-is-destroying-our-marriage

coxesorangepippin · 17/09/2024 16:03

Send your dh instead

CompSc4542 · 17/09/2024 16:02

The real question to ask yourself is: If this were my husband going on a playdate with a single mum, how would I feel?

You might say you'd be okay with it, but is that truly how you feel or is it just for MN appearances? If you're genuinely fine with it, then by all means, do what you feel is best. But if not, don't be a hypocrite.

xILikeJamx · 17/09/2024 15:47

LostittoBostik · 17/09/2024 15:11

But if it was a playdate with a mum?

It's just a playdate. Unless she's a past cheat and hasn't disclosed that, he's choosing to read more into it which is totally unfair

If it was Christmas dinner with the family it would be fine too. But it's not.

It's going to meet a single dad that she's met once at the swimming pool, while going through couples therapy - where her husband will be at the time she's meeting aforementioned single dad. None of this is a rational reason for DH to get jealous, but people are not rational beings.

Obviously OP is not BU at all. But it won't do any good for her relationship with DH

LostittoBostik · 17/09/2024 15:11

xILikeJamx · 17/09/2024 08:23

On the face of it, there's no reason you shouldn't go.

However as your DH is literally going to couples therapy at the same time you're out meeting a strange man (regardless of the reason why), the optics are really not great. I wouldn't do it in your specific circumstances

But if it was a playdate with a mum?

It's just a playdate. Unless she's a past cheat and hasn't disclosed that, he's choosing to read more into it which is totally unfair

Didimum · 17/09/2024 15:08

MillyMollly · 17/09/2024 15:06

I read posts like this - and some of the replies - and thank god that my husband wouldn't give two hoots about who I was meeting up with

All these predatory people, just prowling around 'the marriage' waiting to pounce.

So ridiculous. It's so insignificant an issue that it barely needed mentioning. I wouldn't allow my husband to try and dictate to me who I could see and under what circumstances I could see them - you have free agency to do what you want and marriage shouldn't change that

(Of course - if your plans are to shag him tian that's a whole different scenario! I say all the above taking you at face value ... you met someone, kids got on, you might have stuff in common with him so a friendship could be on the cards... great!)

Your husband is insecure and jealous, neither of which would endear him to me

Isn't it understandable to be insecure when your marriage is on the rocks to the extent that it requires counselling?

Didimum · 17/09/2024 15:07

I don't think it's always a problem, but given the fact your marriage is on the rocks and the dad is separated from his wife, I just don't think it's wise at the moment. Prioritise your husband's feelings during this rocky time for you both.

MillyMollly · 17/09/2024 15:06

I read posts like this - and some of the replies - and thank god that my husband wouldn't give two hoots about who I was meeting up with

All these predatory people, just prowling around 'the marriage' waiting to pounce.

So ridiculous. It's so insignificant an issue that it barely needed mentioning. I wouldn't allow my husband to try and dictate to me who I could see and under what circumstances I could see them - you have free agency to do what you want and marriage shouldn't change that

(Of course - if your plans are to shag him tian that's a whole different scenario! I say all the above taking you at face value ... you met someone, kids got on, you might have stuff in common with him so a friendship could be on the cards... great!)

Your husband is insecure and jealous, neither of which would endear him to me

Catandsquirrel · 17/09/2024 14:58

It sounds absolutely fine to me and you've been open.

I'm sure you're not going to drip feed that you're in counselling because you played away with another dad.

I think having friendships of either sex is perfectly normal. A mate has a dad friend she goes to the pub with, her Dh is perfectly happy with that.

I wonder whether you laboured the point about DH being sure about meeting another man, making it sound a bit dodgy?

SherlockStones · 17/09/2024 14:48

If this was a man making this post in the same the tone of responses would be very different.

DesigningWoman · 17/09/2024 14:44

ChickAndTheDuck · 17/09/2024 12:00

Thinking about if my DH did this, I wouldn't like it nor would appreciate it. If it was an old friend it wouldn't bother me but to meet up with a new woman, I would find inappropriate.

I can see where your DH is coming from although he's probably not communicating his feelings very effectively.

All old friends start off as new acquaintances, though. And no wonder Mners are so often posting about being lonely if they automatically discount half the human race as potential friends!

Ablondiebutagoody · 17/09/2024 14:22

I wouldn't do it. Your husband is at couples counselling whilst you meet up with some guy 🤣. Husband probably feels like a total mug

ChickAndTheDuck · 17/09/2024 12:00

Thinking about if my DH did this, I wouldn't like it nor would appreciate it. If it was an old friend it wouldn't bother me but to meet up with a new woman, I would find inappropriate.

I can see where your DH is coming from although he's probably not communicating his feelings very effectively.

Noseybookworm · 17/09/2024 11:45

I can see why your DH would be uncomfortable with this, you've said yourself you'd be uncomfortable with it if the tables were turned. It's unfortunate that instead of addressing it like a grown up and telling you immediately that he wasn't happy, he chose to be passive aggressive and make 'jokes' before getting angry that you hadn't worked out how cross he was. Hopefully the couples counselling will address his difficulties in communicating his feelings. I wouldn't be meeting up with the other dad again, it's an extra hassle you don't need while you're working on your marriage.

desparateidiot · 17/09/2024 11:15

I wouldn't be comfortable with this

Moveoverdarlin · 17/09/2024 11:13

Meeting up with the Dad whilst your DH has counselling does seem like a bit of a kick in the nuts.

Cardamomandlemons · 17/09/2024 11:13

Geriatricmillenial · 17/09/2024 09:32

Also the comment about DH seeing women only as sex objects resonated. He’s never had any female friends and also is the only one of us to cheat in a relationship…

Does he have opposite sex siblings? I read some study that men with no sisters often believe men and women can't be just friends.