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To think it's ridiculous to fall out over a Facebook post ?

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Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 12:52

I posted on here yesterday as my mom and I had an argument on the last day of our holiday. It basically ended with me saying, apologise for your part in this argument (that she started) or I'm done with you both. As a result I said she will miss out on her granddaughter growing up. This was really not nice of me to say, but she was giving me the silent treatment and acting like a kid so I said whatever I could to get a reaction. She had been goading me all afternoon.

My mom has a real issue with admitting when she's in the wrong and is as stubborn as mule. I'm 33 with a 5 month old little girl and my parents and I have always been close, but my mom can be needy and a bit emotionally controlling. I don't think I need to go into that here, I just want to know if I'm being unreasonable. I don't think I am.

So after this argument we travelled back from holiday not talking, and the day afterwards I put my usual holiday Facebook post with a few snaps. There were none of my parents (my mom refuses to be in photos 90% of the time and obviously they were all of my precious baby on her first holiday!) and I didn't tag anyone in the post, not even my husband.
I texted her the same morning to apologise for my part in the argument and the nasty things I said, but asked if she could accept that she started it over nothing. She could not, and she said "agree to disagree". I reluctantly agreed. I'm fully aware that if I hadn't have made the first move, she wouldn't not have messaged me. Later on in the day, she texts me to say that she "hurt" because I didn't mention in my post that she and my dad were on holiday with us. My post was "lovely holiday with my little family". I explained we weren't talking at the time I posted, plus I haven't tagged anyone and there's no pictures of them to tag. She ignored that message and now we aren't talking. I actually feel a bit more relaxed now I'm having a break from her if I'm honest but I'm sad it's ended this way and don't see a way back.

AIBU to think it's pathetic for my mom to abandon myself and her granddaughter for the sake of a Facebook post?

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Gingernaut · 15/09/2024 13:26

I texted her the same morning to apologise for my part in the argument

At this point, you could have

A. Made good the threat to go non contact, or

B. Decided you needed to keep up the drama

and you chose B.

Either you want this baby in your life, or you don't

You sound as bad as each other - next time, give Facebook a miss and get some prints for an album and stop making photos of your child public

RollerRunner · 15/09/2024 13:25

"lovely holiday with my little family"

That sounds like a very deliberate and very public dig at your mother.

harriethoyle · 15/09/2024 13:22

i can absolutely understand why she saw that facebook post as a dig. I’m afraid I’m another one who thinks you’re both total drama llamas.

dapsnotplimsolls · 15/09/2024 13:20

She's been spiteful, you've been spiteful. Do you want her to have a relationship with your child? If so, I suggest you swallow your pride and edit your fb post. If not, do nothing. What does your DH think?

Mskrabapple · 15/09/2024 13:17

Why are you so desperate to have her in your life? You threw out a fairly strong ultimatum and caved, sending the message that your words have no meaning. You apologise and sweep things under the rug and yet also acknowledge that she’s emotionally controlling, stubborn and treats you, your husband and his family poorly.

im not saying never see her again, im saying you need some distance and some iron clad boundaries. For instance, no holidays together, visits where you pack up and leave when she behaves poorly, following through on your words (which means you need to be careful what you threaten), ignoring any emotional manipulations and not getting caught up in playing her games.

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:14

PrimalOwl10 · 15/09/2024 13:10

Let me guess your dm paid for the holiday?

Omg no! Why on earth would you think that 😂😂😂 I booked it and actually lent her the money for it too she could pay me back 🤦‍♀️

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Ponoka7 · 15/09/2024 13:14

Stop trying to play happy families because you aren't. Your Mother is emotionally abusive and exhibits toxic behaviour. You then react and because you haven't been given the skills to react healthy, you also use emotional manipulation. Your DD is going to see all this as normal behavior.

Don't use her as childcare. Stop going on holiday together and go LC. Don't make the first move, leave her to stew.

Swissvisa · 15/09/2024 13:14

You both had an argument, said some silly things to each other. You reached out and apologised first, she refused to apologise for her part and then got upset over a Facebook post (a post which was probably spiteful but was made when neither of you were speaking!).

On balance neither of you look particular good in this but, given you reached out and she chose to further the argument, I would give her space to reach out to you to put an end to it. I wouldn’t think of it as relationship ending though, just a silly tiff where you both need space.

SpiderGwen · 15/09/2024 13:12

It was a deliberately “just me and mine” post about your holiday, OP, so you may as well own up to that. “My little family” doesn’t include the grandparents who were on holiday with you, so you were clearly thumbing your nose at them.

The whole thing sounds petty and awful. You said something horrible. You say she did as well.

Apologising “but only if you say sorry as well” is not apologising.

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:12

TheOliveGoose · 15/09/2024 13:09

Why did you write 'with my little family'? You know your mum, you knew what buttons you were pressing and you did it anyway. Now she has reacted like you knew she would react you are upset.

There is 2 of you in this, you clearly have form for pressing her buttons, telling her she wouldn't see her granddaughter grow up, not acknowledging her presence on your holiday. I'm sure she has form for pressing your buttons too. Maybe a break from each other is needed and better boundaries, keep things nice and airy and superficial if you do start speaking again.

I honestly didn't see any issues with this. I did go on holiday with my little family. Genuinely don't see the issue with that post, besides the fact that when I posted it we weren't talking so it would be a bit weird to mention them. Yeah I think a break might be good to be honest.

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Mrsttcno1 · 15/09/2024 13:11

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:06

Of course I appreciate that, but I still didn't get an apology from her about how she treated us. I clearly wasn't prepared to cut her out of my life - I made the first move and apologised. If I was prepared to cut her out of my life I wouldn't do this would I? It's just something I said. And it wasn't a case of my purposely withholding my daughter from her, it was a case of "if you don't see you're in wrong then you'll miss out because I'm not talking to you for a while"

Why threaten that if you weren’t prepared to do it? It’s a very cruel thing to say and I would have been very hurt by that if I was your mum. You can justify it now but if what you said was what was in your original post then it absolutely was said as if you were going to withhold your child from her- you didn’t just say “I’m not speaking to you for awhile” you said she wouldn’t see her granddaughter grow up!

You both need to learn to communicate better, and I do think posting “My little family” is deliberate to make it look like your parents weren’t involved/there.

PrimalOwl10 · 15/09/2024 13:10

Let me guess your dm paid for the holiday?

Trickabrick · 15/09/2024 13:09

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:02

Because the Facebook post was a new thing that I'm feeling that I need some perspective on. I'm struggling.

Honestly you probably just need to take a breather from the drama, let the dust settle and see if you can clear the air when emotions have died down a bit. Both you and your mum sound like you could work on how you react in an argument and that’s not going to happen so soon after a blow up. Good luck as there’s loads to unpick it seems x

TheOliveGoose · 15/09/2024 13:09

Why did you write 'with my little family'? You know your mum, you knew what buttons you were pressing and you did it anyway. Now she has reacted like you knew she would react you are upset.

There is 2 of you in this, you clearly have form for pressing her buttons, telling her she wouldn't see her granddaughter grow up, not acknowledging her presence on your holiday. I'm sure she has form for pressing your buttons too. Maybe a break from each other is needed and better boundaries, keep things nice and airy and superficial if you do start speaking again.

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:06

Mrsttcno1 · 15/09/2024 13:02

Do you appreciate that apologising doesn’t fix everything though? If I ever said something like that to my mum I wouldn’t expect a “sorry” to make that better.

And to be honest if you’re able to make that threat it does seem bizarre that you’re then worried about her “abandoning” you. You were prepared to cut her out of your life, and threatened to, but now are surprised she’s not bothering with you?

Of course I appreciate that, but I still didn't get an apology from her about how she treated us. I clearly wasn't prepared to cut her out of my life - I made the first move and apologised. If I was prepared to cut her out of my life I wouldn't do this would I? It's just something I said. And it wasn't a case of my purposely withholding my daughter from her, it was a case of "if you don't see you're in wrong then you'll miss out because I'm not talking to you for a while"

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ExtraOnions · 15/09/2024 13:06

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:01

I totally agree. It is childish, and I feel like an idiot for even being sucked into it. My mom always finds something to argue about and without context this post probably seems like I'm more unreasonable than I am. I've had years of emotional blackmail from this woman, her constantly on competition with my in-laws, being jealous when I make friends or seek support from professionals with my mental health. She thinks she should be all I need in my life.

Then don’t get drawn into it .. you are an adult.

I have an emotionally manipulative, gaslighting, fairly horrible mother - I just ignore it when she starts, somebody can’t argue with themselves.

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/09/2024 13:05

The apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree.
You're both as bad as each other.

peppertrees · 15/09/2024 13:04

I believe threatening your mother with not seeing her granddaughter grow up is cruel. Probably the worst possible thing anyone could say to a grandmother and in my opinion unforgiveable.

gamerchick · 15/09/2024 13:04

Sounds a bit ike mother like daughter shenanigans here.

That's fine, but please don't use your kid as a weapon or shell turn into both of you and pass pettiness on down the generations. Time to break the mold.

For the minute just enjoy some time apart. It sounds alike you feed off each other a bit.

ChristmasJumpers · 15/09/2024 13:04

Your Facebook pist strongly implies that you, your husband and baby were on a family holiday alone. Given the falling out with your mum, I understand why she thinks you've done that purposefully.

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:02

Trickabrick · 15/09/2024 13:00

Yes sorry I somehow skipped the first line but my point still stands - why start another thread on the same issue?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5165098-grandma-drama

Because the Facebook post was a new thing that I'm feeling that I need some perspective on. I'm struggling.

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Mrsttcno1 · 15/09/2024 13:02

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 12:57

Okay so it wasn't a silly argument at all. She said some awful things to my husband and about his parents without any provoking. Also yes, I clearly acknowledge in my post that what I said was wrong, and I apologised. Did you read it?

Do you appreciate that apologising doesn’t fix everything though? If I ever said something like that to my mum I wouldn’t expect a “sorry” to make that better.

And to be honest if you’re able to make that threat it does seem bizarre that you’re then worried about her “abandoning” you. You were prepared to cut her out of your life, and threatened to, but now are surprised she’s not bothering with you?

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 13:01

ExtraOnions · 15/09/2024 12:58

I think you are both adults, and this whole thing is a bit childish.

It is possible, to have a disagreement and nobody having to “admit” they were wrong.

It’s also the Adult thing to do, to know when to leave something, and not keep on with a fruitless argument.

Histrionics like “you’ll never see your grand children grow up” add nothing.

Maybe nobody needs to win, and nobody needs to lose, and you all need to learn to manage conflict better.

I totally agree. It is childish, and I feel like an idiot for even being sucked into it. My mom always finds something to argue about and without context this post probably seems like I'm more unreasonable than I am. I've had years of emotional blackmail from this woman, her constantly on competition with my in-laws, being jealous when I make friends or seek support from professionals with my mental health. She thinks she should be all I need in my life.

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offyoujollywelltrot · 15/09/2024 13:00

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 12:52

I posted on here yesterday as my mom and I had an argument on the last day of our holiday. It basically ended with me saying, apologise for your part in this argument (that she started) or I'm done with you both. As a result I said she will miss out on her granddaughter growing up. This was really not nice of me to say, but she was giving me the silent treatment and acting like a kid so I said whatever I could to get a reaction. She had been goading me all afternoon.

My mom has a real issue with admitting when she's in the wrong and is as stubborn as mule. I'm 33 with a 5 month old little girl and my parents and I have always been close, but my mom can be needy and a bit emotionally controlling. I don't think I need to go into that here, I just want to know if I'm being unreasonable. I don't think I am.

So after this argument we travelled back from holiday not talking, and the day afterwards I put my usual holiday Facebook post with a few snaps. There were none of my parents (my mom refuses to be in photos 90% of the time and obviously they were all of my precious baby on her first holiday!) and I didn't tag anyone in the post, not even my husband.
I texted her the same morning to apologise for my part in the argument and the nasty things I said, but asked if she could accept that she started it over nothing. She could not, and she said "agree to disagree". I reluctantly agreed. I'm fully aware that if I hadn't have made the first move, she wouldn't not have messaged me. Later on in the day, she texts me to say that she "hurt" because I didn't mention in my post that she and my dad were on holiday with us. My post was "lovely holiday with my little family". I explained we weren't talking at the time I posted, plus I haven't tagged anyone and there's no pictures of them to tag. She ignored that message and now we aren't talking. I actually feel a bit more relaxed now I'm having a break from her if I'm honest but I'm sad it's ended this way and don't see a way back.

AIBU to think it's pathetic for my mom to abandon myself and her granddaughter for the sake of a Facebook post?

Christ. Your mum needs to get a grip.

Trickabrick · 15/09/2024 13:00

Doggomom91 · 15/09/2024 12:58

No, I posted about the initial argument (see first line of post)

Yes sorry I somehow skipped the first line but my point still stands - why start another thread on the same issue?

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5165098-grandma-drama