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To think we should all boycott John Lewis until they respect their female employees

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Lovelyview · 29/08/2024 17:26

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/resignation-letter-from-a-john-lewis

This is a letter from a female employee of John Lewis's Cheadle branch. John Lewis told its female employees that they have to share toilets and locker rooms with trans identifying men. The employee says this is having a terrible effect especially on colleagues who have experienced trauma relating to men or who have religious reasons to not want to share a space with someone who is the opposite sex.

Resignation letter from a John Lewis Partner

The John Lewis Partnership is abusing its female staff and customers

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/resignation-letter-from-a-john-lewis

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PrincessOlga · 29/08/2024 18:53

To be honest, I have been boycotting JL already and closed my account with them. There is nothing that I cannot buy elsewhere and their customer service is not what it was. I believe that they are deliberately gaslighting women, there is some form of misogyny running rampant today that I cannot understand. Yet thousands of years ago, archaic and primitive religions worshipped.... goddesses! Can we go back to the Stone Age, please?

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/08/2024 18:52

Dumbledoreslemonsherbets · 29/08/2024 18:22

Would fit right in Afghanistan with that attitude! Completely fine with women being excluded from public spaces - exactly like the Taliban.

This

gleeful posts

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/08/2024 18:51

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/08/2024 18:47

You don’t know what a changing room is for?

To be fair the op actually said locker room. That to me is different to a changing room and not something I would expect to be single sex . At my work the lockers are just in communal places on the open plan floor. It maybe I have misunderstood what a locker room is

ItsAShame2 · 29/08/2024 18:49

I am a huge John Lewis fan - but I will also be boycotting them and just sent them this - I used the contact page and clicked the product button as could not see a better option.
www.johnlewis.com/customer-services/contact-us

”I am a huge advocate of choice - live and let live - as long as no one is hurting each other.

I feel very strongly that not proving safe spaces to biological women is hurting them. I am a huge John Lewis fan and have been for decades - but I will not be shopping in your store or online until you ensure your biological women staff have guaranteed safe spaces.”

Suzuki70 · 29/08/2024 18:49

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/08/2024 18:47

You don’t know what a changing room is for?

Do you genuinely think that was my question?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 29/08/2024 18:47

Suzuki70 · 29/08/2024 18:42

I've never been provided with a changing room in any of my retail jobs in the first place, let alone a single sex one. What's it for?

You don’t know what a changing room is for?

otnot · 29/08/2024 18:47

Already boycotting them for dreadful customer service so can't help. It's annoying as many of the companies I would boycott for their attitudes to women, I'm already boycotting for something else.

Cantalever · 29/08/2024 18:45

violetsparkle · 29/08/2024 17:54

Whilst I understand you are upset about this, John Lewis is a major employer and retailer. If they have to close it will be devastating for the retail environment. We've lost debehams. I don't know how long house of Fraser is going to last, bhs - gone.

Which is why they need to get their act together, and respect and consider female staff and customers.

KurtShirty · 29/08/2024 18:45

No

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 29/08/2024 18:44

John Lewis has great breastfeeding facilities (better than most other shops) so I see them as a supporter of women. I will not be boycotting.

Viviennemary · 29/08/2024 18:44

No I won't be blocking John Lewis. Its up to the employers amd staff to sort this out, What a fuss about nothing. It's toilets with presumably private cubicles. I bought quite a lot from JL in the past but not so much now. I tend to go on a spree once in a few years.

ilovesooty · 29/08/2024 18:44

saraclara · 29/08/2024 17:29

No. This is their employees' issue (and their unions?) to fight.

I agree.

BiggerBoat1 · 29/08/2024 18:43

You do you, but I will not be boycotting them.
Up to the staff to take it up with their union if they don’t like it.

AsYouWiiiiiiiiiiiiish · 29/08/2024 18:43

I didn't know we get comments deleted for gender critical thoughts these days... it's a pity that MN is censoring concerned women.

Suzuki70 · 29/08/2024 18:42

I've never been provided with a changing room in any of my retail jobs in the first place, let alone a single sex one. What's it for?

CoffeeCakeAndALattePlease · 29/08/2024 18:41

Well, JL is an employee owned trust isn’t it and so their employees should be involved in key issues.

TorroFerney · 29/08/2024 18:41

CeruleanBelt · 29/08/2024 18:01

Why would i care who John lewis lets into which toilet?

That isn't a question for us is it - only you decide what you care about. What an odd comment.

Lovelyview · 29/08/2024 18:39

Shadyshady · 29/08/2024 18:36

I will continue to shop at JL...those female employees are strong and capable and don't need my support to fight for themselves. I have my own drum to bang.

It's interesting that the woman who wrote that letter has just resigned from John Lewis (she says she is financially secure) the fact is that women who need their jobs often feel they can't speak out on this issue for fear of being sacked.

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Loggialy · 29/08/2024 18:39

The Resigner raises interesting points regarding the situation. It does seem like a situation which is designed to appease ONE employee.
Really, a better boycott would have been for her to decide to wear a man costume to work every day. Saying she is a man, maybe with clown makeup because that’s her ID. Use mens changing room and toilet, demand a tampon machine, etc etc. Just act like a person who needs special accommodations and see if she is accommodated.

ResisterOfTwaddleRex · 29/08/2024 18:37

There's an AGP in our local John Lewis (he works in the women's department and is very vocal about it) and I stopped using them once I realised that the James Esses account of their ideological capture wasn't just in one store, or one part of the company:

x.com/jamesesses/status/1758061754804748489?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

AGP for those unfamiliar:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4726257-nick-timothy-in-the-telegraph-on-the-grr?page=1

This letter does not surprise me. Women deserve much better than this. We certainly don't deserve to be treated with contempt by our employers or as customers.

Shadyshady · 29/08/2024 18:36

GailBlancheViola · 29/08/2024 18:33

How nice of you to be so supportive of those female employees, so very, very kind.

I will continue to shop at JL...those female employees are strong and capable and don't need my support to fight for themselves. I have my own drum to bang.

Nomorewindchimes · 29/08/2024 18:35

Kath85 · 29/08/2024 18:28

Nope, not bothered by this at all!

What is wrong with you?

Nomorewindchimes · 29/08/2024 18:35

WomensRightsRenegade · 29/08/2024 18:23

In which case they shouldn’t be shafting their main customer base - by pandering to those with shafts.

How utterly miserable that so many WOMEN on Mumsnet who would be self-flagellating with barbed wire if John Lewis were discriminating against black people have no issue with this grotesque discrimination against women and girls.

Misogyny really is the oldest and deepest hatred.

So, so true. Sadly.

Nomorewindchimes · 29/08/2024 18:34

TurtlesDoNotPetsMake · 29/08/2024 17:34

DF would be homeless if it wasn't for John Lewis. He worked for them for 20yrs and they have been amazing.

That was then and this is now. Your DF wouldn't have been working with men with fetishes. Well he may have, but they wouldn't have taken them to work. I am sure he would be horrified to think of men intruding in to women's spaces and exposing themselves.

MinnieMountain · 29/08/2024 18:33

I’d boycott them if they hadn’t already shut our local store.