To think we should all boycott John Lewis until they respect their female employees

No

That's a legal(and moral) requirement

All dogs

I work for JL and trust me, this is not the issue you think it is. We have male janitors in the changing rooms and no one cares. Stop assuming what colleagues are thinking with no knowledge.

I haven't said if I do or don't have a problem

Brilliant letter. So eloquently put. Unfortunately I don’t think it will make a darned bit of difference. There were a few boycott threads with a bunch of us writing in to M&S about 4 years ago. Management ignored our concerns.

You might want to boycott the NHS as well then 😂

Not caring is not the same as thinking it won’t happen in my workspace. It can happen where I work and that’s fine. I am happy to share space with trans women as I do not consider them to be “men pretending to be women”.

All the women on here who don't care "it won't happen to me" lot. It will happen to you. You will find a man pretending to be a woman in your women's only space. When you do, just remember how disconnected you were about it at this time.

I absolutely love John Lewis.

Having read this letter, I sadly won’t shop there again until they rectify this.

When will men leave us alone?

My work’s changing room has lockers in it. To be focussed on this exact wording of this space and not the discomfort of the women is off to me. It’s clear the women don’t want men in this space no matter what you want to call it.

Rubbish, in the past a man in the women's could be reported, removed and sometimes the police called if he was exposing his penis (as in wii spa). Other men and women would call the man out / stop him. If a toilet is labeled women's that is stating it's for biological women only in most people's minds

The children attacked by Dolatowski probably wouldn't have used those toilets and their parents not let them go in alone had the toilets been labeled mixed sex.

Already boycotting

Didn't M&S have a transwomen working in the women's underwear department a few years ago. Iirc it came to light when a women took her teenage daughter for her first bra fitting.

I wonder how many posters would remain unbothered/committed to inclusivity under those conditions.

If a man is woman enough for the ladies loo or changing room then why not as a bra fitter?

I worked part time at Waitrose for a few years before I retired. A man who usually worked on bakery started coming to work wearing a uniform skirt and tights, and blue eye shadow, and a female name. I think his shirt was the male version and he wore a white vest under it. In a skirt, he used the female locker room and toilets. I didn’t hear of any formal announcement about it but when I, a fairly new and insignificant part-timer, grumbled to my team leader he smiled and said, we have to just let it go.

Lots of girls came straight from the local 6th form college to change into uniform for an evening shift. They absolutely should not have had to change in a toilet cubicle just because a man wearing a skirt was touching up his mascara in the locker area.

They’re disgusting employers and I’m glad to be out of it.

Toilette...why?

Ooookkkaaayyy..........

Really? Do you think that this policy would not have any impact on some black women, and girls too, or are they somehow other to you? You should think before you write such nonsense.

Agreed.
But don't just boycott.
Tell them why you're not spending your money there.

But most shops don’t guarantee gender specific toilets. They put signs on saying who they are for but the don’t police it and check people going in and out. What do you expect them to do have a bodyguard on the door.

The rules about trans women in loos apply equally to partners and customers, and this is true in all high street retailers.

I read it. It all boils down to “exclude trans women from women’s loos,” without straightforwardly coming out and saying it.

Perhaps if you could link to a neutral source which explains the subtext of this letter, it might help.

Thank you! The resignation letter mentions locker rooms which most retail jobs have, a literal room with lockers, but the letter starts talking about "female changing rooms". I've worked in a few companies with uniform and never been provided with a changing room. Everyone just arrived at PC World for example in their attractive lavender shirt. Is it a locker room, or a changing room?

The last time I was in jl the toilets were labeled women and men. No information that they were all mixed sex. That's consumer fraud. It's like saying a sandwich is nut free whilst in fact having nuts in.

I think there's a case coming up on these lines for a gym? It's one thing if the change in policy is clear and everyone understands, toilets clearly labeled mixed sex, it's another if you lie and don't give customers a choice whether to consent to using mixed sex toilets or not when it's a critical issue for them.