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Would you trust a dentist to do facial procedures?

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cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 08:19

I’m just getting really anxious now. I have a neighbour friend whose a dentist but also dabbles in aesthetics (no idea really what that means but I think Botox, fillers etc). His social media page is always full of people saying thank you etc. and he’s fab etc. and praising him for the work he’s done on their face.

I hate looking at pictures of myself so I decided last week to contact him and book a consultation. I’ve transferred a deposit already (£50) and my appointment is next week. Am I being really silly by going? I’ve never had any work done to my face and honestly I don’t even know what I expect hence the consultation. Please tell me am I being silly by going to a dentist or do most dentists now specialise in facial things too?

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Aligirlbear · 05/08/2024 18:24

Dentists know their way around the face better than most doctors -unless facial specialists themselves. They understand the nerve pathways, muscle structure and joint movement. It takes 7 years in the UK to become a fully qualified dentist and they are well qualified to undertake Botox etc. - much better than beauty consultants

Catza · 05/08/2024 18:21

Destiny123 · 05/08/2024 18:19

It needs a prescription yes, but yes administered without supervision by those often with minimal training (I've had mates (I'm a dr) been asked to do private scripts for random practitioners to use and told them not to touch the idea with a barge pole unless involved in their care its way too risky from a litigation pov)

So how do those practitioners who don’t work with a doctor manage to go around the law? I guess that’s what I was really asking. How can Sharon-the-hairdresser run a room in her salon without someone signing off on prescription?

Destiny123 · 05/08/2024 18:19

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:58

Maybe I am confused but I thought they passed the legislation some years ago. I certainly have to see a doctor to be prescribed Botox every 12 months where I go even though they don't inject it themselves.
As far as I am aware, Botox still needs to be prescribed. And without medical supervision, are the practitioners actually insured to perform a treatment after a few day's course?

It needs a prescription yes, but yes administered without supervision by those often with minimal training (I've had mates (I'm a dr) been asked to do private scripts for random practitioners to use and told them not to touch the idea with a barge pole unless involved in their care its way too risky from a litigation pov)

cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 18:12

Here it is! One said “Rookie error” going to a dentist that’s what worried me. There are some positives in there also actually but as I said I didn’t read all of them just the negative ones stuck out for me. Here is it incase anyone interested. I’ll have a read myself later in detail when kids asleep:

_https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/ami_being_unreasonable/5020927-to-think-my-dentist-should-not-have-fd-up-my-first-botox

i don’t want to resurrect an old thread but I’m really curious how it turned out for her! Shall I resurrect it?

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cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 18:08

Thank you everyone! I’m trying to link the thread I found by a poster written in March this year saying she had injectables (I think) from her dentist and it went wrong! Most Posters were attacking her and saying she was stupid to get it done from a dentist! That’s what got me thinking and got me asking this question. I only skimmed it maybe the responses got better but first page was all against dentists

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SerenityNowInsanityLater · 05/08/2024 16:43

Would I trust a medical professional with extensive and comprehensive knowledge of facial anatomy; nerves, muscles, and movement over Tracy from beauty college?
I think you can guess my answer.

5128gap · 05/08/2024 16:38

My preference would always be for a doctor who specialised in cosmetic work on the face. They will have devoted their entire career to that work and will have significantly more experience than another professional who does it as a side line. That said, if I trusted a person to mess with my teeth, where a mishap would be permanent rather than a temporary or reversible issue that most injectable problems amount to, then I probably would. Their knowledge should protect against serious health related errors, but the results may not be as good as a specialist doctor.

MonsteraMama · 05/08/2024 16:29

My dentist does mine, he's a wizard with teeth and facial aesthetics.

Think about how much more familiar with all the facial nerves they have to be, they have actual clinical and medical training. They're also usually very good at injecting stuff with as little pain as possible (mine is anyway!)

I'd rather a dentist than some hairdresser who's clinical qualifications may well consist of watching a few YouTube videos.

Fleura · 05/08/2024 16:26

Absolutely - I have a friend who is a dentist and runs a side business in aesthetics. She’s fully qualified, deals with facial injections on a daily basis as a dentist and has also experience in maxillo-facial surgery which was part of her initial training. It’s a no brainer from my perspective!

hattie43 · 05/08/2024 16:21

Westfacing · 05/08/2024 08:25

A dentist is a fully-trained surgeon - I'd rather a dentist than a beauty therapist or similar injecting chemicals into my face.

Exactly this .

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:58

Destiny123 · 05/08/2024 15:49

What? Don't even need medical qualifications to botox in the UK, often few days beauty course

Maybe I am confused but I thought they passed the legislation some years ago. I certainly have to see a doctor to be prescribed Botox every 12 months where I go even though they don't inject it themselves.
As far as I am aware, Botox still needs to be prescribed. And without medical supervision, are the practitioners actually insured to perform a treatment after a few day's course?

ThePoshUns · 05/08/2024 15:57

If I was going to have Botox and fillers I'd chose a dentist over a beautician.
I know an ex police officer who is now offering Botox , what can they know about anatomy etc!

TheFlis · 05/08/2024 15:54

My dentist does my Botox and she is so amazing I have also just signed up for skin boosters with her. A dentist friend of hers who is an aesthetics trainer went on one of those weekend courses beauticians go on out of curiosity to see how thorough it was and was absolutely horrified by how poor it was.

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Destiny123 · 05/08/2024 15:49

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:34

I wouldn't trust a dentist to do a surgical procedure but aesthetic treatment is perfectly fine. In fact only qualified doctors, nurses, and dentists are allowed to inject botox. I am really not sure how others legally manage to get away with doing it.

What? Don't even need medical qualifications to botox in the UK, often few days beauty course

Hoppinggreen · 05/08/2024 15:49

1BodyProblem · 05/08/2024 15:40

In the UK this is simply untrue. Anyone can injext botox. It can only be prescribed by a medical professional.

My friends wife is a retired midwife. She works 1 day in a Botox clinic prescribing it so all the young ladies with minimal training can inject it into peoples faces.

Destiny123 · 05/08/2024 15:48

cookiesnScream · 05/08/2024 08:19

I’m just getting really anxious now. I have a neighbour friend whose a dentist but also dabbles in aesthetics (no idea really what that means but I think Botox, fillers etc). His social media page is always full of people saying thank you etc. and he’s fab etc. and praising him for the work he’s done on their face.

I hate looking at pictures of myself so I decided last week to contact him and book a consultation. I’ve transferred a deposit already (£50) and my appointment is next week. Am I being really silly by going? I’ve never had any work done to my face and honestly I don’t even know what I expect hence the consultation. Please tell me am I being silly by going to a dentist or do most dentists now specialise in facial things too?

As dr myself I'd a million times trust a dentist injecting my face over someone with a beauty diploma and minimal training vs a dentist with a 5y degree focusing on facial anatomy/nerves etc etc

Pussycat22 · 05/08/2024 15:47

What you really need is a maxillary facial SURGEON but I hey are busy putting faces etc back together for whatever reason.

Chypre · 05/08/2024 15:44

Dentist - 5 years of studies as a minimum, "beauty therapist" - can be a single day workshop for £££, et voila, you are free to inject people's faces with nifty diploma to hang on your wall.

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:42

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 15:00

Shouldn't someone be encouraging them to also do some NHS work instead of beauty therapy though?
Vanity over wellbeing.

Yes, the government should be encouraging them to do some NHS work by raising the amount of subsidies they receive for NHS patients.
Dentistry is a private business with high overheads. Most can't afford to do NHS work under the current contract conditions.

1BodyProblem · 05/08/2024 15:40

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:34

I wouldn't trust a dentist to do a surgical procedure but aesthetic treatment is perfectly fine. In fact only qualified doctors, nurses, and dentists are allowed to inject botox. I am really not sure how others legally manage to get away with doing it.

In the UK this is simply untrue. Anyone can injext botox. It can only be prescribed by a medical professional.

Catza · 05/08/2024 15:34

I wouldn't trust a dentist to do a surgical procedure but aesthetic treatment is perfectly fine. In fact only qualified doctors, nurses, and dentists are allowed to inject botox. I am really not sure how others legally manage to get away with doing it.

Paganpentacle · 05/08/2024 15:33

Werweisswohin · 05/08/2024 12:56

As already stated, I feel that dentistry takes priority over beauty treatment.

this is private work- its not detracting from whatever NHS services they may also offer.

PToosher · 05/08/2024 15:30

Hmmm, let me see, Dentist - fully trained medical professional, versus Sharronn - who did a week online course in 'aesthetics' and has a certificate printed off her inkjet printer.
Tough call.

1BodyProblem · 05/08/2024 15:25

Given the scandalous lack of regulation of aesthetics in this country where Sandra from Basildon Hair and Beauty can be let loose on your face after sitting through a short course, I'd much rather go to a dentist. I welcome a time where aesthetics is properly regulated and only allowed from certain plastic / max fax surgeons.