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DP weird relationship with ex

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kiana2015 · 22/07/2024 23:45

Me and DP have a DD, he also has a DD with his ex. Me and the ex don't get along, she's always bitching and blaming me for everything. I think DP has a weird relationship with his ex, when we first met she was always calling and messaging him, when she brought their DD round she also stayed for hours, they would go for coffee etc. I didn't meet DD until a year and a half into our relationship and even then she looked for any chance she could to stop her coming. Now DP goes out to take his DD places, never invites us. He has previously gone for coffee or gone round his ex house and says it's for his DD. There's been many occasions where I feel like the line has been crossed with respect for me, a big one is when she bitches to him about me calling me all sorts, he never sticks up for me just ignores her. The most recent occasion they were at an appointment and then the ex gave DP a lift, just the two of them no DD, he also didn't mention this to me I told I asked him and says he wasn't hiding it but it wasn't relevant to tell me, I kicked off but he says I'm off my head and controlling. AIBU to expect respect and to maintain boundaries?

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EG94 · 23/07/2024 17:30

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 17:25

I do genuinely believe that is inappropriate, am I really being unreasonable?

No! The ex isn’t respectful of you, you’re excluded from your SD. This isn’t about forming healthy relationships to move forward this is very much about two exes WANTING to spend time together. There life together is over, there is no need. I’m firmly with you. It’s inappropriate

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 17:25

KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 17:17

but he doesn't see anything wrong when he does something like going to her house

I don't see anything wrong with him going g to her house! Again, she's the mother of his child, they are going to see each other, have conversations, and incredibly, possibly have a good relationship that will benefit their daughter. He is not doing anything wrong by keeping a good relationship with her. If your idea of boundaries is that he's not allowed go to the house where his daughter lives, you are going to drive him away.

I do genuinely believe that is inappropriate, am I really being unreasonable?

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KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 17:17

but he doesn't see anything wrong when he does something like going to her house

I don't see anything wrong with him going g to her house! Again, she's the mother of his child, they are going to see each other, have conversations, and incredibly, possibly have a good relationship that will benefit their daughter. He is not doing anything wrong by keeping a good relationship with her. If your idea of boundaries is that he's not allowed go to the house where his daughter lives, you are going to drive him away.

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 17:10

Oli2927 · 23/07/2024 16:19

Personally I do think it’s strange.

me and my partner have children from previous marriages.
All communication is just relating to children and we are civil.
neither of us go to coffees with each other or give each other lifts without our children present and there is just no way either of us tolerate our exes slating the other person.

however we have thrown birthday parties for our children and invited the ex and their partner.

I would suggest that you sit down and have a serious conversation with your partner. Just explain that boundaries need to be put in place. He doesn’t need to be on the phone to his ex 24/7 or going for coffee. They broke up for a reason. If he’s reluctant there is a reason.

you could always reach out to his ex and try and reach a point where you are both civil.
there’s always a reason an ex doesn’t like a new partner. It’s either jealously or your partner has been bitching.

hope you get this solved. X

I have tried talking with him and he does try but he doesn't see anything wrong when he does something like going to her house etc so it's hard as he doesn't understand. I have also tried I have mentioned to him if we all go for a coffee and a chat and we can develop some sort of relationship as I do want to get along with her so I feel more comfortable and so would she if I ever am around her DD but he just says no leave it and has even said he doesn't want us around each other so I don't understand

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kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 17:07

@BowlOfNoodles that's not what I'm trying to say, I'm trying to say that he's hiding it from me?

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Oli2927 · 23/07/2024 16:19

Personally I do think it’s strange.

me and my partner have children from previous marriages.
All communication is just relating to children and we are civil.
neither of us go to coffees with each other or give each other lifts without our children present and there is just no way either of us tolerate our exes slating the other person.

however we have thrown birthday parties for our children and invited the ex and their partner.

I would suggest that you sit down and have a serious conversation with your partner. Just explain that boundaries need to be put in place. He doesn’t need to be on the phone to his ex 24/7 or going for coffee. They broke up for a reason. If he’s reluctant there is a reason.

you could always reach out to his ex and try and reach a point where you are both civil.
there’s always a reason an ex doesn’t like a new partner. It’s either jealously or your partner has been bitching.

hope you get this solved. X

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 15:37

KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 14:38

The most recent occasion they were at an appointment and then the ex gave DP a lift, just the two of them no DD, he also didn't mention this to me I told I asked him and says he wasn't hiding it but it wasn't relevant to tell me, I kicked off but he says I'm off my head and controlling. AIBU to expect respect and to maintain boundaries?

She's the mother of his child but he's not allowed give her a lift? And he's afraid to tell you if he does? I'm with him, it does sound controlling.

This is why the ex doesn't like you op, you're over stepping she's he's daughters mother of cause they can give each other lifts etc. It seems you are against unity between them when you are pushing 🫸 that with your partner you are making yourself look unreasonable and controlling 100% personally I'd never ask about the mom or daughter again and I'd ask not to hear about it either.

burritobabe24 · 23/07/2024 15:34

It's all a bit much isn't it. I'm on good terms with my ex and he will stay for a bit of a chat at the drop off but I certainly wouldn't have him bitching about my dh to me. And id feel weird about getting a lift with just him. Trust your gut op.

KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 15:32

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 15:29

But there should be no reason not to tell me that's my point, I do t understand why he hid it? I wouldn't have been angry. We live in the countryside so there isn't a lot of transport

Because "it's driving me insane and we've spoke about this time and time again"

He probably just wants an easy life and doesn't want you talking about it yet again.

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 15:29

KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 14:38

The most recent occasion they were at an appointment and then the ex gave DP a lift, just the two of them no DD, he also didn't mention this to me I told I asked him and says he wasn't hiding it but it wasn't relevant to tell me, I kicked off but he says I'm off my head and controlling. AIBU to expect respect and to maintain boundaries?

She's the mother of his child but he's not allowed give her a lift? And he's afraid to tell you if he does? I'm with him, it does sound controlling.

But there should be no reason not to tell me that's my point, I do t understand why he hid it? I wouldn't have been angry. We live in the countryside so there isn't a lot of transport

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KrisAkabusi · 23/07/2024 14:38

The most recent occasion they were at an appointment and then the ex gave DP a lift, just the two of them no DD, he also didn't mention this to me I told I asked him and says he wasn't hiding it but it wasn't relevant to tell me, I kicked off but he says I'm off my head and controlling. AIBU to expect respect and to maintain boundaries?

She's the mother of his child but he's not allowed give her a lift? And he's afraid to tell you if he does? I'm with him, it does sound controlling.

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 14:26

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 12:52

I do understand that and in this situation it is not her keeping me from going it's him, he doesn't bother including us, I never used to mind as I do feel he should be able to have one on one time with his daughter but surely once in a while including us especially as she has a sister she has only met once, it's like he has a double life, what do I tell our DF when she's old enough to realise?

How often are the outings?

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 12:52

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 08:01

Oh and op In regards to you going to outings with hers daughter please 🙏 remember in 2 years YOU could be the ex and it could be you having to have your Dc around somebody you dislike! Her mother doesn't like you that's why you are not invited love. And if the outings are not regular you would be intruding on those outings your own dc are getting unlimited access to your partner! Personally as somebody who's had relationships with people with kids ( never again) I'd focus on my home/relationship and tell you partner not to mention he's ex to you ever again! You don't wanna know if she's been slagging you off ex.

I do understand that and in this situation it is not her keeping me from going it's him, he doesn't bother including us, I never used to mind as I do feel he should be able to have one on one time with his daughter but surely once in a while including us especially as she has a sister she has only met once, it's like he has a double life, what do I tell our DF when she's old enough to realise?

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kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 09:00

redalex261 · 23/07/2024 01:10

I don’t understand how you can know he does not defend you when his ex bitches about you? He says he does, why do you doubt this? Also, is the bitching solely by text or is he coming back and telling you? If he is why does he do that? Is there any reason in particular this woman dislikes you so much? She didn’t know you before and they were over when you came on the scene so is it that she dislikes you having contact with her child or some other reason?

Do you think she wants to reconcile with him or is he just enjoying the drama of the two of you tussling over him?

You described your feelings about the situation as “insane”. You need to find a way to evaluate things calmly and rationally before deciding how to deal with it, as it at the moment there’s no way of telling what the reality is.

Also no reason in particular it could be anyone and she wouldn't like them. She's jealous she makes comments about things we do, when I've saw her previously she will say things like ' he never took me on holiday but has you' or 'he never bought me valentines gifts but has you' there isn't really an issue with me and DD I test her well and she knows and she doesn't say no if he asks for me to go with them the point is he doesn't bother to ask

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kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 08:58

redalex261 · 23/07/2024 01:10

I don’t understand how you can know he does not defend you when his ex bitches about you? He says he does, why do you doubt this? Also, is the bitching solely by text or is he coming back and telling you? If he is why does he do that? Is there any reason in particular this woman dislikes you so much? She didn’t know you before and they were over when you came on the scene so is it that she dislikes you having contact with her child or some other reason?

Do you think she wants to reconcile with him or is he just enjoying the drama of the two of you tussling over him?

You described your feelings about the situation as “insane”. You need to find a way to evaluate things calmly and rationally before deciding how to deal with it, as it at the moment there’s no way of telling what the reality is.

So basically I have occasionally read their messages when what he's saying doesn't add up or I have a bad feeling - I know I shouldn't do that but I have. Every time I have looked there's messages of her saying something about me and he completely ignores it, only when I ask he then admits so no when in person I do the would tell me

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Cinocino · 23/07/2024 08:20

You have to picture you and your DD as the ex family.
It’s not healthy or good for the DD for them to hate each other and not speak. Theres nothing inherently weird about the mother and a father having a coffee around their child.
You don’t like it, but he does and always will have a relationship with her, she’s the mother of his child.

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 08:01

Oh and op In regards to you going to outings with hers daughter please 🙏 remember in 2 years YOU could be the ex and it could be you having to have your Dc around somebody you dislike! Her mother doesn't like you that's why you are not invited love. And if the outings are not regular you would be intruding on those outings your own dc are getting unlimited access to your partner! Personally as somebody who's had relationships with people with kids ( never again) I'd focus on my home/relationship and tell you partner not to mention he's ex to you ever again! You don't wanna know if she's been slagging you off ex.

EG94 · 23/07/2024 07:54

I’m with you. When they decided to split all the lifts and favours end. Ending a relationship is a realisation this person isn’t for you anymore. His obligations as a father don’t stop but they do as a partner. Bottom line is, you’re uncomfortable he needs to decide who to upset, you or her. If it’s you, which it has been for a long time, you know where you stand. At the bottom. Can you accept this or do you want someone who puts you firdt

HappyWorkingMummy · 23/07/2024 07:50

Sounds like he's still committed to her and putting her feelings and wants before yours,

Why did they officially break up?

I say officially as it sounds like they're still together in some way. Are you sure they are not sleeping together? They certainly are cheating on you emotionally.

And why is his life with his DD so separate from your life with him and your daughter. You should be a family together: you, him, both of your DDs and doing things together.

In your situation I'd be looking out for signs of cheating such as his messages or info from mutual friends or scratches on his back or his mouth smelling like between her legs when he comes home to kiss you.

Sounds like he's still in love with her.

BiteToEat · 23/07/2024 07:43

And what @BowlOfNoodles said

BiteToEat · 23/07/2024 07:43

It’s a pity you had a child with him eith all this going on. Don’t have any more. It is definitely dodgy and the atmosphere can’t be great.

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 07:41

Inspireme2 · 23/07/2024 01:18

Difficult situation but definitely needs hee and gim to be respectful.
Why does he feed comments back to you.
I would expect that to stop.
Some people have guilt parenting and cowl down to a partner, or is she manipulating.
You need to have boundaries & respect..driving together well, they will always be linked for life with a child, but I don't get why it means you are targeted by the ex.
He needs to stop the bullshit and you are not to be shunned for asking questions.

They usually do this when they don't want women sitting and exchanging information

BowlOfNoodles · 23/07/2024 07:40

kiana2015 · 23/07/2024 00:19

I genuinely don't think he's ever or would ever do anything it's just the respect and the fact he constantly just bows down to her it's driving me insane and we've spoke about this time and time again

If you didn't think that op you wouldn't be here. Have you been slagging her off and did you interfere in the early stages? My sons father had a girlfriend 10 years younger than me who was very Slender and she'd been saying I was a large hag lol to him and he's family ( no reason we'd never meet ) this ment I had absolutely zero respect for her from the get go and continued seeing him on any occasion I wanted to!

WildLemur · 23/07/2024 02:22

I don't think one co-parent giving the other a lift somewhere doesn't strike me as a transgression of normal boundaries.

I'm not too sure, from your post, what he's doing wrong.

Inspireme2 · 23/07/2024 01:18

Difficult situation but definitely needs hee and gim to be respectful.
Why does he feed comments back to you.
I would expect that to stop.
Some people have guilt parenting and cowl down to a partner, or is she manipulating.
You need to have boundaries & respect..driving together well, they will always be linked for life with a child, but I don't get why it means you are targeted by the ex.
He needs to stop the bullshit and you are not to be shunned for asking questions.

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