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To think the hilarity just wasn’t necessary?

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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

OP posts:
thefamous5 · 22/07/2024 08:41

It's unusual (what you did) but nothing wrong with it, if that's something you do.

I think - and I know it's going to sound patronising but I don't mean to - it's actually really quite lovely. I love history a lot too and think and reflect in things I've read or watched or heard.

I think the problem is that you left a conversation to do that, and that does come across a little rude perhaps? As others have said, I suspect there is some ND at play?

Could you in future make a few notes on your phone to look back on when you're on your own?

I think gentle ribbing is ok in some families - it would be in my family because we literally rip the piss out of each other as a sign of affections however, if you were visibly upset about it, that was bang out of order.

I hope you're ok.

TinyTear · 22/07/2024 08:29

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:01

I’d absolutely love to but I can’t afford it 😞 I always say if I won the lottery the first thing I’d do is pursue a degree in history

Does the open university still exist? isn't that much cheaper?

Thriftnugget · 22/07/2024 08:28

Some people here don’t understand and some do. I can envisage my son (nearly 18) doing similar to you. He is an intense, reflective person. I think he would probably choose to share only with people he trusts. Your family sounds rather mean. They have poor judgement on the difference between laughing with some one and laughing at them. I’d encourage you to dwell on their mistakes a little more instead of questioning yourself. As a PP said, keep being you.

Spinet · 22/07/2024 08:22

This thread is giving me flashbacks to secondary school. Not in a good way. Conform, OP! Conform!

Misthios · 22/07/2024 08:22

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

It's my job to do this and find it out. Not as far back as the medieval period usually, but regularly back into the 17th century. I do think it's fascinating to discover the stories of ancestors and what ordinary people were doing at the time.

I also work with many other people of a similar interest, both professionals and interested amateurs, and clients who have paid me to research their family. I know I can post things in a group WhatsApp about a cool record from Ellis Island or some old archive records and they will be interested. I know that not everyone is similarly interested and there are a lot of people out there who just aren't bothered about what their g g granny was doing on the 1901 census. And that's fine, it'd be really boring if we were all interested in similar things.

I have also never found it necessary to withdraw from a group conversation to "reflect".

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/07/2024 08:20

I think it's fine to pop out when the conversation takes a turn that doesn't interest you, and if men can think about the Romans several times a day, I don't see why you can't muse on the Anglo Saxons.

I think where you set yourself up was in the way you explained it to your daughter - it did sound a bit funny, and most families laugh at each other. I would get laughed at for that and I would not care because I know all the equally odd things they have done in their time that I still find hilarious.

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:17

🤣

Jifmicroliquid · 22/07/2024 08:17

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:16

I disagree, Great Aunt Mildred is part of who you are now. She raised her children and influenced them, they influenced the next generation and so on.

Just like you will influence the next generation in some way and so on, in 300 years there will be a generation of people who in some way have been shaped by you and by Great Aunt Mildred.

Not to say that you have to a) believe the same as me or b) give it a second thought 🤣

I fear for the future people shaped by me 🤣

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:16

Jifmicroliquid · 22/07/2024 07:54

Honestly, no.

But then I don’t get the fascination with family trees and ancestry type things. What Great Aunt Mildred did 300 years ago has got no impact on me.

I do recognise that a lot of people like this sort of stuff though.

I disagree, Great Aunt Mildred is part of who you are now. She raised her children and influenced them, they influenced the next generation and so on.

Just like you will influence the next generation in some way and so on, in 300 years there will be a generation of people who in some way have been shaped by you and by Great Aunt Mildred.

Not to say that you have to a) believe the same as me or b) give it a second thought 🤣

PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 22/07/2024 08:13

This sounds like something I would have said when I was younger and I would have gotten the same reaction as your family. All it does is make me clam up and shy around people at big events now. And they all wonder why I’ve gone shy and don’t engage in conversations. I’ve just embraced my weirdness internally and stay quiet in public so I’m not the butt of their jokes any more.

PeriIsKickingMyButt · 22/07/2024 08:12

I'm sorry to do the typical mumsnet thing of diagnosing neurodivergence but honestly your behaviour is unusual and doesn't fit with social norms and did very much sound like something a ND person would do and then not see why people were laughing. They shouldn't have taken the piss once it was clear you didn't find it funny.

EmberAsh · 22/07/2024 08:11

I would find a natural lull in the day where I could then think back about something I was interested in. No hobbies or passions as such but if a conversation had interested me, it might come back to the forethought of my brain. Perhaps when brushing my teeth or loading the dishwasher.
I would certainly think it unusual for someone to wander off alone, when with company to reflect immediately on a conversation topic.

FunIsland · 22/07/2024 08:11

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Not so much the relatives but I do find it interesting. I wouldn’t go outside to reflect on it though and would fully find it weird if someone else did.

Depending on the personality of the individual I’d either laugh or presume they were a bit up their own arse to be honest.

HeadNorth · 22/07/2024 08:08

betterangels · 21/07/2024 21:28

Agree. Couldn't you just have said you needed some air? It's all a little earnest.

That is exactly what the OP said - can no one read posts anymore?

A lot of posters seems just like the OP's family - so keen to gang up on her for being what they perceive as 'wierd'. It is not a crime to not be like everyone else and it shouldn't be mocked and laughed at.

OP - you continue to march to the beat of your own drum, your family sound unpleasant and resentful of anyone who dares to be a bit different (like many posters) so uses mocking to shame you back into line. Vive la difference, I say.

Mongrelsrbeautiful · 22/07/2024 08:08

My family would do similar, but we'd all take it on the chin. We all have our eccentricities. If you laugh along in these situations they stop sooner.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:05

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:03

I understand where you are coming from OP, but there’s a balance. You can’t control the conversation in a group- it’s impolite to talk for any length of time about something that doesn’t interest everyone. If you want an extensive chat about history, go especially for that when your sister isn’t there.

And when you need time out for reflection, it’s time to go home, or reflect while making a cuppa!

You may get a better reception if you call it ‘processing’ rather than reflecting. I think people understand the need to process information better.

Most people process unconsciously though, while making a cuppa or going for a walk, in the background of doing lighter things.

And that may have been why your sister was trying to change the subject- to subconsciously process the meat of the previous conversation.

Neither of you were wrong, but you clearly don’t understand each other’s learning style. Maybe work on the relationship so the misunderstandings aren’t so hurtful.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 22/07/2024 08:03

I understand where you are coming from OP, but there’s a balance. You can’t control the conversation in a group- it’s impolite to talk for any length of time about something that doesn’t interest everyone. If you want an extensive chat about history, go especially for that when your sister isn’t there.

And when you need time out for reflection, it’s time to go home, or reflect while making a cuppa!

You may get a better reception if you call it ‘processing’ rather than reflecting. I think people understand the need to process information better.

Most people process unconsciously though, while making a cuppa or going for a walk, in the background of doing lighter things.

Jifmicroliquid · 22/07/2024 07:54

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

Honestly, no.

But then I don’t get the fascination with family trees and ancestry type things. What Great Aunt Mildred did 300 years ago has got no impact on me.

I do recognise that a lot of people like this sort of stuff though.

BigDahliaFan · 22/07/2024 07:52

That would absolutely have gone done in our family hist And resurrected every Christmas along with all the other things we take the piss out of each other about.

but seriously I think you should crowdfund an OU degree, you’d love it. If you possibly can go do a degree.

Bubblybits · 22/07/2024 07:39

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:33

I imagined it as OP trying to demonstrate why it was worth reflecting about rather than coming back and dominating the conversation.

Ridiculing her in front of everyone wasn’t OK. She could have a quiet word with her.

OP says:

No I ignored them and tried to return to the topic but it was impossible with sister carrying on the way she was.
I wasn’t the one with all the facts, my grandma was. That’s why I wanted it to carry on as I was learning things I didn’t already know.

That doesn’t sound like someone trying to just explain why they wanted to reflect. It sounds like someone who wanted the previous conversation to carry on, regardless of how other people in the room felt.

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 07:39

DancingNotDrowning · 22/07/2024 07:14

Fascinated by the people claiming you can’t think and reflect in a busy room and suggesting that not wanting to repeatedly return to a conversation no one else was interested in makes you a pitiful character whose interest start and stop with soaps and socials.

I’m not an academic so not at the forefront of intelligent and original thinking but I’ve got a masters and I’m a qualified lawyer, I think on my feet, in crowded court rooms and I’ve written a couple of books and contributed to several more. I would have roared with laughter if my brothers or sisters had done this.

but is suspect the difference is I like them, they like me, none of us have a superiority complex and we all recognise that it’s not appropriate to hog a conversation.

Absolutely this. Most people think while they participate in a conversation.

Chusername · 22/07/2024 07:38

It is funny. Embrace it…

There’s nothing wrong with having your own quirks but it’s unreasonable to expect other (presumably NT folk) to get it. I think it’s endearing and it really wouldn’t bother me if people found it amusing.

I'm autistic and spend a lot of time in my own head reflecting on things. I don’t think I’d leave the room, I need breaks from conversation sometimes but I might just nip to the loo or something! (People often laugh at me for other reasons though. I don’t care, I know they love me)

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 07:36

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 21/07/2024 23:01

Can't you read? Confused

OP didn't say it to her family. She said to her own DD outside, then the DD related it to the family inside who then took the piss.

It's really not that hard to take 2 minutes to comprehend a few sentences.

I did understand it, I'm not an idiot. I think it's a pretentious thing to say to anyone!

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:33

Bubblybits · 22/07/2024 07:30

So am I getting this right - you were talking about history, then the conversation naturally drifted into American politics, you didn't want to talk about that so removed yourself to reflect on the previous conversation. However politely you feel you did this, it would be somewhere between weird and rude to me. Then you came back and tried to keep steering the conversation back to history, even though it had already moved on - AND you had literally taken yourself off outside for a period - and even though you know your sister isn’t massively into history? No wonder she was ribbing you - your behaviour was really odd and her making fun was probably a way of ensuring the conversation wasn’t dominated by a topic that had already been discussed and was only of interest to one of you Confused

The polite thing to do would have been to reflect on your thoughts at a natural break in the conversation, rather than making one yourself and leaving everyone wondering WTF you were “just popping out” for. Surely you could have discussed it with your Grandma again at a later point, rather than trying to drag the conversation back at that moment? Perhaps when your sister wasn’t around, given her lack of interest in the topic?

Edited

I imagined it as OP trying to demonstrate why it was worth reflecting about rather than coming back and dominating the conversation.

Ridiculing her in front of everyone wasn’t OK. She could have a quiet word with her.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 07:31

XChrome · 22/07/2024 02:54

OP, notice that the people who say it's weird and laughable are unable to rationally explain why. The best they can come up with is; "I wouldn't do that, therefore it's weird."
That's because, unlike you, they aren't thinkers by nature. They're reactors. They just have a knee jerk emotional response to anyone who isn't as shallow as them. They don't think it through. You like to think things through in order to form an opinion. That's to be commended. Ignore these superficial, reactive people.

Edited

It's been explained multiple times by multiple posters why it's not the done thing to just leave the room if you don't like the topic of conversation. At least say you needed some fresh air or something, but ideally don't do it.

I completely relate to the wish to carry on and further explore a topic of conversation in my head - I'd forgotten until this thread that my lovely dad described me as a deep thinker in his speech at my wedding, he was the same.

The point is that it's not polite to do that in company. This isn't a point of intellect, it's a point of social skills.

The most interesting, intelligent people I've known can converse in an appropriate way about just about anything, high brow or low. They don't leave the room because the conversation has turned to someone else's interests.

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