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To think the hilarity just wasn’t necessary?

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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

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XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:21

ThatTealViewer · 22/07/2024 10:55

Then think deeply when they’re not there? Or is your thoughtfulness on some sort of time limit? Can it only happen at specific times? Does it need to take place during social gatherings?

People not removing themselves from social situations to reflect does not mean they don’t reflect. It doesn’t make them shallow. To claim that it does smacks of the same level of adolescent navel gazing earnestness as the OP. It’s not thoughtful, it’s silly. I’d laugh at you, as well.

The moment when it was fresh in her mind would be lost. This happens to me as well. Later on, my enthusiasm about what was discussed can tend to wane. I may forget the details of what was said.

I was saying people are shallow if they ridicule others for being thoughtful and reflective.
So laugh at yourself for your lack of comprehension.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:13

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:56

It's not been explained why this is rude. As long as she excused herself, there could be nothing wrong in her etiquette. She didn't say she stomped off in a huff FFS. It was a family gathering, not a formal debate, so it's perfectly fine to bow out when you lose interest in the discussion.
Lots of people can't stand talking about Trump because it is often so divisive, and quite frankly, it's depressing to many people. Totally understandable.
If a subject is unpleasant or boring to you, there is nothing wrong in deciding not to contribute to the conversation.

We all know that if she decided to go check her phone, use the toilet, or any number of other reasons, people would not be calling it rude. You just admitted that wanting fresh air would magically render the exact same action proper. Etiquette is being used as a smokescreen to hide distaste for allegedly "weird" people behind.

It's been explained multiple times.

The sister kept trying to change the conversation, then when she succeeded OP left the room to continue thinking about the previous topic rather than contributing to the group. And then came back in and tried to change the topic back to what she wanted to talk about even though the group as a whole had clearly exhausted their interest in it.

Group gatherings involve conversational give and take, it's rude not to join in or to try to monopolise the conversation - or repeatedly steer it to something you find much more interesting than everyone else.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:59

MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 22/07/2024 07:36

I did understand it, I'm not an idiot. I think it's a pretentious thing to say to anyone!

So it would be unpretentious to lie about her reasons instead? Seriously?

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:56

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 07:31

It's been explained multiple times by multiple posters why it's not the done thing to just leave the room if you don't like the topic of conversation. At least say you needed some fresh air or something, but ideally don't do it.

I completely relate to the wish to carry on and further explore a topic of conversation in my head - I'd forgotten until this thread that my lovely dad described me as a deep thinker in his speech at my wedding, he was the same.

The point is that it's not polite to do that in company. This isn't a point of intellect, it's a point of social skills.

The most interesting, intelligent people I've known can converse in an appropriate way about just about anything, high brow or low. They don't leave the room because the conversation has turned to someone else's interests.

It's not been explained why this is rude. As long as she excused herself, there could be nothing wrong in her etiquette. She didn't say she stomped off in a huff FFS. It was a family gathering, not a formal debate, so it's perfectly fine to bow out when you lose interest in the discussion.
Lots of people can't stand talking about Trump because it is often so divisive, and quite frankly, it's depressing to many people. Totally understandable.
If a subject is unpleasant or boring to you, there is nothing wrong in deciding not to contribute to the conversation.

We all know that if she decided to go check her phone, use the toilet, or any number of other reasons, people would not be calling it rude. You just admitted that wanting fresh air would magically render the exact same action proper. Etiquette is being used as a smokescreen to hide distaste for allegedly "weird" people behind.

mirax · 22/07/2024 19:49

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 17:41

I’ve just had a little internal chuckle at that mental picture… a mum and her young daughter, sitting side by side on a park bench in complete silence, gazing into the distance and ignoring the world around them while they think about dungeons.

Edited

How sad that you are so insecure that you need to laugh at thoughtful people engaging in a totally harmless and completely human response. The UK used to be a place that celebrated eccentricity, thinking out of the box, quirky individuals that walked their own paths in life and now we have a great mass of scolds who think reflecting about the past is pretentious and even rude.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:43

LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 22/07/2024 07:31

@DonnySue carry on being you. I’m a bit of a reflector and value taking time to do so. Unfortunately as a lot of responses show on this thread there is low/poor tolerance of it or of difference. I regularly need breaks in social situations. My family would never take the mick out of me for having an interest. Unfortunately you’ve just got lots of people on this thread who don’t understand having an interest and can’t stretch their brains far enough to understand it because they are too restricted by societal norms eg groups should stay together not one leave for a while and come back, or laugh at the weirdo. People who lack confidence can’t cope with an independent thinker. Boring pack behaviour and sounds like your sister, like many posters on this thread, are comfortable with a bit of low key bullying to have a laugh.

Carry on doing you and the next time they laugh at you like that just leave. Set the boundary for yourself and others that you won’t be treated like that. They’ll call you weird and tell you you’re overreacting but you won’t be in the same room as them so win win.

Well said.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:37

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 16:54

Seriously? You sound toxic. Let me guess, everyone’s always mean to you too?

You sound like you're projecting, especially given you personally attacked a person just for having an opinion you disagree with. Let me guess; you're always right?

SerafinasGoose · 22/07/2024 19:32

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 17:41

I’ve just had a little internal chuckle at that mental picture… a mum and her young daughter, sitting side by side on a park bench in complete silence, gazing into the distance and ignoring the world around them while they think about dungeons.

Edited

Were you also a bully at school?

Calliopespa · 22/07/2024 19:30

KarenOnTour · 22/07/2024 15:43

@DonnySue
The saddest part here is that your own DD has picked a lane. She was the one who went back to the others to mock you and instigate the piss taking

Your family are toxic and you are the scapegoat - and your daughter has learned this dynamic and is now cheerleadering it

Seriously put a stop to this and draw up some boundaries before you end up with no self confidence whatsoever

Really? This sounds like paranoia…

Calliopespa · 22/07/2024 19:28

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 17:41

I’ve just had a little internal chuckle at that mental picture… a mum and her young daughter, sitting side by side on a park bench in complete silence, gazing into the distance and ignoring the world around them while they think about dungeons.

Edited

I honestly think it’s lovely. I suppose we are all different.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:28

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 07:23

Well no - it’s rude to just get up mid conversation because it’s moved on from the topic you like. They all sat there listening to OP twaddle on AND she tried to bring the conversation back to what she wanted even though it had clearly moved on. Rude, ignorant and boring.

Edited

Is it rude to get up to use the toilet? To check on dinner in the oven? To attend to a child? To check your phone messages? No?
Then we have established it is only "rude" if the object is to avoid an unpleasant subject and go have a think. Therefore, it's not rude.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:22

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 18:47

Of course there is nothing wrong with sitting quietly and thinking/reflecting, @HeadNorth. But does it need announcing, as the OP did (even though it was just to her dd)?

I don’t condone the hilarity - unless everyone is laughing, that sort of thing tips over into bullying/unkindness, and clearly the OP was not laughing. But equally, she needs to understand that conversations will move from one topic to another and that, whilst she was enjoying the conversation about history, other people wanted to talk about something else. Letting the conversation move on, and joining in with the new topic, even if you aren’t particularly interested in it, when other people have joined in with your favourite topic, is good manners, in my opinion.

She didn't announce it. She merely answered DD's question honestly. Stop mischaracterizing her actions to try to give weight to what is nothing but an irrational knee jerk reaction.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:19

SerafinasGoose · 22/07/2024 10:58

Really? Would you say the same of someone going outside for a vape, for example?

No. Of course you wouldn't.

Or to check the phone for messages.
Of course they wouldn't. It's only because thinking about things in depth is not something they do, therefore it's "weird."

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/07/2024 18:47

Of course there is nothing wrong with sitting quietly and thinking/reflecting, @HeadNorth. But does it need announcing, as the OP did (even though it was just to her dd)?

I don’t condone the hilarity - unless everyone is laughing, that sort of thing tips over into bullying/unkindness, and clearly the OP was not laughing. But equally, she needs to understand that conversations will move from one topic to another and that, whilst she was enjoying the conversation about history, other people wanted to talk about something else. Letting the conversation move on, and joining in with the new topic, even if you aren’t particularly interested in it, when other people have joined in with your favourite topic, is good manners, in my opinion.

HeadNorth · 22/07/2024 18:37

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 17:41

I’ve just had a little internal chuckle at that mental picture… a mum and her young daughter, sitting side by side on a park bench in complete silence, gazing into the distance and ignoring the world around them while they think about dungeons.

Edited

Well, I must be a weirdo too, as I don’t see what so hilarious about a mum & daughter sitting on a bench having a quiet moment. It sounds chilled out and pleasant to me. So go ahead, point and laugh at the oddballs who occasionally like to quietly reflect.

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 17:41

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 21:27

No I ignored them and tried to return to the topic but it was impossible with sister carrying on the way she was.

just to add DD wasn’t laughing so she didn’t do it on purpose. I don’t think she got the joke either as we often reflect on things we see or talk about. Example York dungeons. After the tour we sat in the park for a bit to reflect on it. I really can’t understand what is so odd about it, I think it’s weirder to leave somewhere like that and completely forget about what you’ve just seen

I’ve just had a little internal chuckle at that mental picture… a mum and her young daughter, sitting side by side on a park bench in complete silence, gazing into the distance and ignoring the world around them while they think about dungeons.

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 16:54

KarenOnTour · 22/07/2024 15:43

@DonnySue
The saddest part here is that your own DD has picked a lane. She was the one who went back to the others to mock you and instigate the piss taking

Your family are toxic and you are the scapegoat - and your daughter has learned this dynamic and is now cheerleadering it

Seriously put a stop to this and draw up some boundaries before you end up with no self confidence whatsoever

Seriously? You sound toxic. Let me guess, everyone’s always mean to you too?

Bumblebeestiltskin · 22/07/2024 16:31

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 22:57

People who think I’m weird …. Do you not find it fascinating that all those years ago your relatives … your actual blood relatives were going about their lives in medieval Britain? Do you not wonder what they did for a living? What they looked like? Where they lived?

I find all sorts fascinating, I don't have to leave the room to reflect on my thoughts though, personally. It's not an issue that you do, at all, but can you honestly not see why other people would laugh?

Haggisfish3 · 22/07/2024 16:26

KarenOnTour · 22/07/2024 15:43

@DonnySue
The saddest part here is that your own DD has picked a lane. She was the one who went back to the others to mock you and instigate the piss taking

Your family are toxic and you are the scapegoat - and your daughter has learned this dynamic and is now cheerleadering it

Seriously put a stop to this and draw up some boundaries before you end up with no self confidence whatsoever

Ops dd did not do that. She simply told them what op had said. They chose to me unkind and cruel.

KarenOnTour · 22/07/2024 15:43

@DonnySue
The saddest part here is that your own DD has picked a lane. She was the one who went back to the others to mock you and instigate the piss taking

Your family are toxic and you are the scapegoat - and your daughter has learned this dynamic and is now cheerleadering it

Seriously put a stop to this and draw up some boundaries before you end up with no self confidence whatsoever

Tootsweets84 · 22/07/2024 14:05

OP, maybe if more people took a moment to reflect the world would be a much nicer place. YANBU and have inspired me to spend a little more time in my thoughts as life is so chaotic these days. I couldn't care less if people want to laugh - says more about them.

PenguinCounter · 22/07/2024 13:45

@Spinet I meant the OP was rude and pretentious

StopInhalingRevels · 22/07/2024 13:37

SerafinasGoose · 22/07/2024 10:43

You are really overthinking this.

Lol, any particular reason why I am "overthinking this" when I'm stating the same thing as 100 other people who can see this is exactly what's happened. Okkkkk.....

NervousSubject · 22/07/2024 13:21

StockpotSoup · 22/07/2024 13:11

Those of you reassuring OP that she’s the lovely clever one and her family are all pig-thick dullards who are only interested in useless trivia are not being as kind as you think you are. You could reassure the OP without resorting to insulting others.

It’s nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence, anyway.

NervousSubject · 22/07/2024 13:15

DonnySue · 22/07/2024 09:06

Exactly this!! Decisions made a thousand years ago have some impact on your life today. In 300 years from now, there will be people walking around who don’t know you ever existed but your decisions now will have some impact on the lives they’re living. It’s fascinating

But no one has suggested otherwise. History is enormously interesting to vast numbers of people. What you seem unable to explain is what exactly it was in your family conversation about medieval history you needed to go outdoors to ‘reflect on’, why your thoughts were ‘ruined’ by your family laughing, and why you then tried to revert to the earlier subject and got annoyed when your family used joky excuses about ‘reflecting’ not to.

None of this has anything to do with history, or indeed any subject of interest, or other people being stupid and unreflective. It’s to do with social interactions that even your immediate family, who must be used to you, find a little unusual. And in this case funny.

Are you easily overwhelmed?

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