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To think the hilarity just wasn’t necessary?

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DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 24/07/2024 11:21

There's a third option, I think, @MsAmerica - remain in the room and engage in the new topic of conversation, in the same way that others engaged in the conversation when it was your particular topic of interest - and save the deep thoughts for a later point.

MsAmerica · 24/07/2024 01:26

NervousSubject · 23/07/2024 07:18

Maybe they’re able to think about history while also being in a room with other people?

Hm. Interesting. Studies tell us that there is really no such thing as good multi-tasking, so which is preferable: Sitting in a room full of people but clearly off in your own little world, or politely leaving the rooms to allow your thoughts free rein?
In my experience, if I really want to think about something seriously, and I know that if I don't do it right away, the ideas will vanish, I do stop whatever I'm doing to think. Personally, I believe that the more thinking people, the better - and I can't imagine mocking someone who wants to think.

Chusername · 23/07/2024 22:29

This is all so weird. Posters calling the op pretentious and pompous are completely missing the mark and coming at the situation from an NT perspective, while those calling her family toxic for laughing at something they found amusing in the moment are also overreacting.

It’s understandable that you were put out op, but it’s also understandable that your family found it funny. I wouldn’t be losing sleep over it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/07/2024 12:48

MsAmerica · 23/07/2024 02:23

Well, apart from being embarrassed that some of your family members are so clueless and have apparently never wished to think about anything, no reason for you to feel bad.
You might want to talk to your daughter about it, though.
Maybe next time your sister asks you for a favor, you can haughtily tell her you'll relfect on it.

@MsAmerica - where does the OP say that her family are clueless and have never wished to think about anything?

The fact that they found it funny that the OP had said she was sitting outside to reflect on the history conversation, makes them a bit mean - it doesn't mean they are ignorant, thick, shallow or unthinking, as some posters have stated.

MichaelAndEagle · 23/07/2024 10:59

burnoutbabe · 23/07/2024 08:10

I assume they were just mocking the phase. Not the actual activity of thinking. It's just a pompous sounding phrase and then coming from a 9 year olds mouth sounds even more funny.

"Mums just having a quiet 5 minutes" wouldn't have led to any hilarity.

This is what I think too. It was the phrase, especially out of the mouth of a child.

ThatTealViewer · 23/07/2024 10:05

XChrome · 23/07/2024 02:14

What a silly post. It's not an inability to hold a thought, it's that thoughts naturally tend to fade once you move on to talking about something else. You start to get interested in that subject instead. If you don't know that, you don't understand human nature. I can't help you with that.

Repeat; the shallowness comment was in reference to people who think stopping to reflect is weird and laughable.
Clearly, your comprehension is indeed lacking and you play silly gotcha! games to try to win an argument. You use personal attacks as well. I presume that's because you have no on point refutation and you haven't the guts or humility to admit it.
Perhaps you should take a moment to get the stick out which is crammed firmly up your ass? Just a suggestion.

The delicious irony. Every word. 🤣

Your lack of self awareness is genuinely astounding. There’s really nothing else to be said.

burnoutbabe · 23/07/2024 08:10

I assume they were just mocking the phase. Not the actual activity of thinking. It's just a pompous sounding phrase and then coming from a 9 year olds mouth sounds even more funny.

"Mums just having a quiet 5 minutes" wouldn't have led to any hilarity.

NervousSubject · 23/07/2024 07:18

MsAmerica · 23/07/2024 02:23

Well, apart from being embarrassed that some of your family members are so clueless and have apparently never wished to think about anything, no reason for you to feel bad.
You might want to talk to your daughter about it, though.
Maybe next time your sister asks you for a favor, you can haughtily tell her you'll relfect on it.

Maybe they’re able to think about history while also being in a room with other people?

MsAmerica · 23/07/2024 02:23

DonnySue · 21/07/2024 20:41

Was at my grandmas earlier with DD (9). My sister, her husband and their kids were there too. We were talking about history and I was absolutely fascinated by it (I love history, especially British history) and at one point I took myself outside into the garden to have a few minutes of thinking and reflection on what we’d been talking about.
DD came out to ask what I was doing and I said “just having a few minutes to reflect on what we’ve been chatting about”.

She went back inside and then I heard howls of laughter coming from the living room. DD had told them what I’d said and they were all in stitches over it. It really ruined my thoughts and I tried to get the topic back up and running but sister kept saying everyone was still reflecting - cue more hilarity.

was what I said really that bloody funny?? Pissed off but also a bit embarrassed 😞

Well, apart from being embarrassed that some of your family members are so clueless and have apparently never wished to think about anything, no reason for you to feel bad.
You might want to talk to your daughter about it, though.
Maybe next time your sister asks you for a favor, you can haughtily tell her you'll relfect on it.

XChrome · 23/07/2024 02:14

ThatTealViewer · 22/07/2024 22:44

Then the issue is your (and her) inability to hold a thought in your head for any period of time. That doesn’t make people who can ‘shallow’.

You said Nope. The problem is that many people are shallow and don't reflect on issues enough, so they assume other, more thoughtful people are strange to do so in response to my comment about the OP’s behaviour. Specifically, leaving a social situation to ‘reflect’ being odd and not indicative of ‘cleverness’. You did not say people are shallow if they ridicule others for being thoughtful and reflective.

My comprehension isn’t the issue, here. I continue to find you laughable. Your responses on this thread are rather manic. Perhaps take a breath. Or a moment to reflect.

What a silly post. It's not an inability to hold a thought, it's that thoughts naturally tend to fade once you move on to talking about something else. You start to get interested in that subject instead. If you don't know that, you don't understand human nature. I can't help you with that.

Repeat; the shallowness comment was in reference to people who think stopping to reflect is weird and laughable.
Clearly, your comprehension is indeed lacking and you play silly gotcha! games to try to win an argument. You use personal attacks as well. I presume that's because you have no on point refutation and you haven't the guts or humility to admit it.
Perhaps you should take a moment to get the stick out which is crammed firmly up your ass? Just a suggestion.

TheOriginalEmu · 23/07/2024 00:20

BogRollBOGOF · 22/07/2024 08:42

There's a lot of autistic traits going on here; a deep, intense interest in a niche subject, that long exceeds other people's ability to maintain conversation on the theme, a need for quiet space to process and ruminate about the experience, an inability to read other peoples' experience of the situation and taking it all more seriously than others.

DS has a deep and lasting interest in weaponry and ammunition of WW2 that has lasted years and there has to be a balance of some space to express himself, but also it's not fair on others for him to regularly steer the conversation to it or to talk about it for his full attention span (which can be a verrry long time).

We all have quirks and eccentricities in our family. Some at a ND diagnosable level, some not. We laugh at each other and ourselves. Humour lightens life up. It makes it easier to manage.

I like a "buffer" at transition points. It drives the DCs round the bend that when I've finished driving, if there's no urgency, I like to sit in the car, finish a song, check my phone. This is a habit that pre-dates smart phones and I did 20+ years ago from the start of driving so it's a me thing, not a phone thing. It's not a dissimilar need for DS to have to return to the hotel room on holiday for a couple of hours between activities. But I'm aware of it and can be irreverent about it. Sometimes finding the humour stops us exploding with frustration at ourselves or others- it's not automatically mean or bullying.

At the least it's worth recognising when your behaviour differs from the norm and why that is. It doesn't mean its wrong and if it's something that can be interpreted as rudeness, if you can explain your needs, that helps people understand your intentions. (e.g. there's a difference in understanding that DS is leaving the table because he's reached his social limit and him leaving the table because he's impatient to continue a game)

I agree with you for the most part, but it really doesn’t seem that her family were ribbing her, and when they realised she wasn’t finding it funny they should have stopped. We are also a household of autistics and other ND conditions and we do all laugh at each others quirks, but only if the person is also laughing. If they aren’t. It’s just being mean.

ThatTealViewer · 22/07/2024 22:44

XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:21

The moment when it was fresh in her mind would be lost. This happens to me as well. Later on, my enthusiasm about what was discussed can tend to wane. I may forget the details of what was said.

I was saying people are shallow if they ridicule others for being thoughtful and reflective.
So laugh at yourself for your lack of comprehension.

Edited

Then the issue is your (and her) inability to hold a thought in your head for any period of time. That doesn’t make people who can ‘shallow’.

You said Nope. The problem is that many people are shallow and don't reflect on issues enough, so they assume other, more thoughtful people are strange to do so in response to my comment about the OP’s behaviour. Specifically, leaving a social situation to ‘reflect’ being odd and not indicative of ‘cleverness’. You did not say people are shallow if they ridicule others for being thoughtful and reflective.

My comprehension isn’t the issue, here. I continue to find you laughable. Your responses on this thread are rather manic. Perhaps take a breath. Or a moment to reflect.

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 22:15

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:16

Count the number of posts here. Then count my responses. Your math is way off.
You obviously don't know what projection is. Look it up.

Nah I think you need to babes xx maybe log off for a bit you look obsessed

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:40

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 21:29

I've explained whyyyyyy, several times, as have several others.

You haven't explained it in a way that makes sense to me. The laughter wasn't about her being rude, it was about her taking time to reflect. They were mocking that. So all this talk of rudeness is well beside the point.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 21:29

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:23

Meaning you can't explain why it's inappropriate.
But wait, you are bowing out of a conversation? How rude!

I've explained whyyyyyy, several times, as have several others.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:23

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:34

Because it was inappropriate to the social gathering. But you have no interest in actually trying to understand, you just want an argument so I'm out.

Meaning you can't explain why it's inappropriate.
But wait, you are bowing out of a conversation? How rude!

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:19

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 20:35

It is when she tried bringing the conversation back on what she wanted !! She was rude. As has been established.

This is irrelevant to whether going off to have a think deserves to be laughed at.
That's the question at hand.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 21:16

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 20:37

Nah I’m not - I’m frequently wrong!

is there a reason you’ve replied to practically everyone in this thread? Perhaps you’re the one who is projecting, not me.

Count the number of posts here. Then count my responses. Your math is way off.
You obviously don't know what projection is. Look it up.

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 20:37

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:37

You sound like you're projecting, especially given you personally attacked a person just for having an opinion you disagree with. Let me guess; you're always right?

Nah I’m not - I’m frequently wrong!

is there a reason you’ve replied to practically everyone in this thread? Perhaps you’re the one who is projecting, not me.

AngeloMysterioso · 22/07/2024 20:36

SerafinasGoose · 22/07/2024 19:32

Were you also a bully at school?

Are you Stretch Armstrong? Cos that’s one helluva reach…

PuddlesPityParty · 22/07/2024 20:35

XChrome · 22/07/2024 19:28

Is it rude to get up to use the toilet? To check on dinner in the oven? To attend to a child? To check your phone messages? No?
Then we have established it is only "rude" if the object is to avoid an unpleasant subject and go have a think. Therefore, it's not rude.

It is when she tried bringing the conversation back on what she wanted !! She was rude. As has been established.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:34

XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:28

People have not explained why it is laughable to go off and reflect on the subject.
This is the question the OP asked about, not whether she was rude to try to change the subject.

Because it was inappropriate to the social gathering. But you have no interest in actually trying to understand, you just want an argument so I'm out.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:28

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:13

It's been explained multiple times.

The sister kept trying to change the conversation, then when she succeeded OP left the room to continue thinking about the previous topic rather than contributing to the group. And then came back in and tried to change the topic back to what she wanted to talk about even though the group as a whole had clearly exhausted their interest in it.

Group gatherings involve conversational give and take, it's rude not to join in or to try to monopolise the conversation - or repeatedly steer it to something you find much more interesting than everyone else.

People have not explained why it is laughable to go off and reflect on the subject.
This is the question the OP asked about, not whether she was rude to try to change the subject.

XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:24

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:22

It's a time and place thing - it was neither the time nor the place.

You say, but offer no solid reasoning as to why this is so.

CelesteCunningham · 22/07/2024 20:22

XChrome · 22/07/2024 20:21

The moment when it was fresh in her mind would be lost. This happens to me as well. Later on, my enthusiasm about what was discussed can tend to wane. I may forget the details of what was said.

I was saying people are shallow if they ridicule others for being thoughtful and reflective.
So laugh at yourself for your lack of comprehension.

Edited

It's a time and place thing - it was neither the time nor the place.

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