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Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations

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cauliflowercheeseplease · 18/07/2024 22:32

I understand it's an awful thing that's happened but the Gofundme has reached almost 60k and Jay's mum is asking for more donation to give him a memorable send off.
I'm sure there is more than enough left to enable her to do this after she's paid out those that have helped with the search? Although I did read somewhere some of those that flew out went home earlier as she didn't pay as promised?
Is this wrong of me to say?

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mydogisthebest · 19/07/2024 13:23

CovertPiggery · 19/07/2024 12:48

I didn't.

In any case, it's still infinitely better to be a mug than to be a cunt to a grieving parent.

Is it? No way would I be mug enough to give them a penny. But you carry on being a mug and using foul language. So grown up

CovertPiggery · 19/07/2024 13:28

mydogisthebest · 19/07/2024 13:23

Is it? No way would I be mug enough to give them a penny. But you carry on being a mug and using foul language. So grown up

I know what it's like to lose a child and I stand by my opinion that the people trolling and sending vile messages to a grieving parent are cunts.

Maybe you think it's worse to be a mug (or to swear) than to troll a grieving parent. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion 👍🏼

Comedycook · 19/07/2024 13:32

CovertPiggery · 19/07/2024 13:28

I know what it's like to lose a child and I stand by my opinion that the people trolling and sending vile messages to a grieving parent are cunts.

Maybe you think it's worse to be a mug (or to swear) than to troll a grieving parent. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion 👍🏼

But you don't have to choose between either send a vile message or send money....neither is fine. Over 5000 people have donated. I mean, why bother. Still your money, your choice I suppose....

CovertPiggery · 19/07/2024 13:35

Comedycook · 19/07/2024 13:32

But you don't have to choose between either send a vile message or send money....neither is fine. Over 5000 people have donated. I mean, why bother. Still your money, your choice I suppose....

I never said you had to choose. I was replying to PP who said they didn't think it was better to be a mug than troll a grieving parent.

I won't miss the money and I hope it lets them know some people care.

FredericC · 19/07/2024 13:50

Agreed, it's frankly disgraceful.

No 'we are overwhelmed with the donations/support from everyone to help us find our beautiful boy, now we will use the money to get him home and donate the rest to search and rescue'

Just 'ta for the 60k, gimme more'

I think they had a lot of goodwill and it has understandably evaporated.

Normally with stuff like asking for donations I just think whatever, people can choose to give or not, and that's down to them. But in this case it just seems a huge shame that his public legacy is people disgusted with how his family have conducted themselves re money.

WetherspoonsSnob · 19/07/2024 13:51

And if, for some reason, she can't afford that then she could always contact the Jack the Lad Foundation and ask for a repatriation grant.

Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations
Cornishclio · 19/07/2024 14:17

I don't like SM trolls and don't know how much of the info out there about JS is true but I haven't contributed to the Go fund me account and never do unless it is through someone I know IRL. Not enough guarantees that the money you donate is actually going to what you think it is.

Up to others what they do.

Fluffyelephant · 19/07/2024 14:18

SeriousFaffing · 19/07/2024 12:11

@Fluffyelephant Wow. Yeah, Jay Slater’s mum, family and friends really need to take a reality check because their grief and circumstances are measured to be not as bad as someone else’s.

Picking apart the details of the who, what, why and how the fundraiser was set up just isn’t a good look. Nor is speculating how much money has been spent when a public statement on this has been put out on behalf of the family.

Wild. Just absolutely wild.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevw4jw9j4wo.amp

That's clearly not what I was saying...

I was responding to another post that compared it to the fundraiser set up for the family of the three women recently murdered, and also wrongly asserted that the husband / father had set it up personally.

And I didn't speculate about any amount of money that had been spent.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/07/2024 14:34

I haven't contributed to the Go fund me account and never do unless it is through someone I know IRL. Not enough guarantees that the money you donate is actually going to what you think it is

I'm pretty sure the site promises refunds if "something goes wrong" @Cornishclio, but how exactly they define that - to say nothing of how donors would prove it - is anyone's guess

Like yourself I'll give to those I know but not to strangers online whether they seem deserving or not, and while of course this is individuals' free choice to make it's maybe worth remembering that the success of one appeal instantly creates more

Wetherspoons · 19/07/2024 15:16

Seems like the repatriation will be free after all, maybe a goverment chartered jet or RAF plane, and I've seen screenshots on Tattle that suggest local directors have offered a free or significantly discounted funeral service...

Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Sarah Smith said she was working to ensure Mr Slater's family are receiving support from the government, "particularly to work as quickly as possible for the repatriation".

Manhere2024 · 19/07/2024 15:59

But of course it also wasn’t Jay’s mother Debbie who set up the GoFundMe.

It was set up by his friend Lucy Mae who’d been with him on the holiday and reported him missing.

LifeisHard73 · 19/07/2024 16:47

Wetherspoons · 19/07/2024 15:16

Seems like the repatriation will be free after all, maybe a goverment chartered jet or RAF plane, and I've seen screenshots on Tattle that suggest local directors have offered a free or significantly discounted funeral service...

Hyndburn and Haslingden MP Sarah Smith said she was working to ensure Mr Slater's family are receiving support from the government, "particularly to work as quickly as possible for the repatriation".

Edited

Well if this is all true hopefully they will close the GFM and not keep taking more money.

5128gap · 19/07/2024 18:22

CovertPiggery · 19/07/2024 12:47

I've lost a child.

I don't judge how other people get through it.

This. I have never lost a child but if my son died I don't know how I'd find the strength to face the rest of my life. Debbie Duncan is facing hers her way and as long as she isn't harming anyone (she's been honest and people are choosing to donate) then fair play to her. I'm sorry for your loss.

LuluBlakey1 · 19/07/2024 20:03

LifeisHard73 · 19/07/2024 16:47

Well if this is all true hopefully they will close the GFM and not keep taking more money.

I'd bet they won't.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/07/2024 20:11

LifeisHard73 · 19/07/2024 16:47

Well if this is all true hopefully they will close the GFM and not keep taking more money.

I doubt it, LifeisHard73; according to mum's latest quote they now want more for the funeral:

"We want to give our boy the send-off he deserves so please do continue to share and support our fundraiser however you can."

Cityandmakeup · 19/07/2024 20:12

murasaki · 18/07/2024 22:40

Very cheeky. Sad he died, but he's hardly worth a state style funeral on other people's money. If they want to contribute, that's fine, but the whole thing has seemed grasping.

This

Cityandmakeup · 19/07/2024 20:13

5128gap · 19/07/2024 18:22

This. I have never lost a child but if my son died I don't know how I'd find the strength to face the rest of my life. Debbie Duncan is facing hers her way and as long as she isn't harming anyone (she's been honest and people are choosing to donate) then fair play to her. I'm sorry for your loss.

Has she? She said they had paid several people who came out and said she hadn’t

Cityandmakeup · 19/07/2024 20:15

Would they have donated to the gfm
of the lad he bashed up then laughed about in court had he died?

Swallowdoubleandrunamile · 19/07/2024 20:30

Thevelvelletes · 19/07/2024 05:55

I do if you're a fucker in life you're still a fucker in death.
I wouldn't go to a funeral if I didn't respect the person in life.

Exactly 💯

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 20:32

SeriousFaffing · 19/07/2024 12:11

@Fluffyelephant Wow. Yeah, Jay Slater’s mum, family and friends really need to take a reality check because their grief and circumstances are measured to be not as bad as someone else’s.

Picking apart the details of the who, what, why and how the fundraiser was set up just isn’t a good look. Nor is speculating how much money has been spent when a public statement on this has been put out on behalf of the family.

Wild. Just absolutely wild.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevw4jw9j4wo.amp

That's not a statement on what the money's for.

Honestly, I'm just fascinated by the whole thing: the efforts people put into distorting or misdirecting the facts, some for personal benefit but most for no clear reason; how some tragedies catch the popular interest while others don't; the many and various prejudices on display; sanctity of suffering; the equation of money with emotion.

These GoFundMe appeals aren't "for" anything in particular. If someone needs an electric wheelchair, the fundraiser states the cost and closes when it's met. The Jay Slater and John Hunt ones are more along the lines of send a tenner to show you care - it seems to be a replacement for prayers, in a way.

Public engagement - online detectives, mystery theories and all - was similar with Michael Mosley's disappearance and his very comparable death There was no fundraiser, but his book sales have soared by 650%. That's basically sending your 'prayer in pounds' to his publisher, which seems even stranger in a way.

5128gap · 19/07/2024 20:33

Cityandmakeup · 19/07/2024 20:13

Has she? She said they had paid several people who came out and said she hadn’t

Has she? I don't see that in her statement, which appears to mention repatriation and funeral costs as the reason for further donations. The missing persons charity spokesperson, who i assume to be a reputable source, has said that donations have been made to charities who helped search and their 'costs were covered'.

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 20:37

That's a bit mad, too, @5128gap. The Dutch search & rescue charity - whose costs will be high - arrived after Tenerife police found Jay's body but have been on the island all week Confused

5128gap · 19/07/2024 20:41

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 20:37

That's a bit mad, too, @5128gap. The Dutch search & rescue charity - whose costs will be high - arrived after Tenerife police found Jay's body but have been on the island all week Confused

Oh really? What on earth for?

WetherspoonsSnob · 19/07/2024 20:56

I wonder what odds Ladbrokes would offer me on the chance of a Jay Slater Foundation being set up hmm...

TaylorSwish · 19/07/2024 21:19

The Jay Slater Foundation could help youth offenders, drug dealers and thieves.