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Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations

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cauliflowercheeseplease · 18/07/2024 22:32

I understand it's an awful thing that's happened but the Gofundme has reached almost 60k and Jay's mum is asking for more donation to give him a memorable send off.
I'm sure there is more than enough left to enable her to do this after she's paid out those that have helped with the search? Although I did read somewhere some of those that flew out went home earlier as she didn't pay as promised?
Is this wrong of me to say?

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Manhere2024 · 19/07/2024 07:16

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 05:42

@janintherain, @Cocoda

In 2021, Jay, along with seven other youths, ambushed and chased fellow teen Tom Hilton in Rishton, Lancashire, attacking him with a machete, golf clubs, and an axe. Tom, who likened his attackers to 'a pack of gorillas', was left with a split skull following the assault, as well as injuries to his shoulders and legs.

Judge Parry stated: "You should all eight be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves but I am not at all convinced you are. Many of you have found these proceedings amusing throughout the trial and yesterday and today, showing disrespect to the court."

Jay also had priors for assault and drug dealing. I certainly don't think anyone should die in a stupid accident, and I do find it extra sad that he was so young. It hasn't transformed him into a saint, though: he was who he was.

The difference between this family and those of the hundreds of other young people missing right now, or found dead, isn't class. It's the incredible amount of publicity and money they have generated.

Jay had never been charged or convicted with drug dealing.

Probably you’re thinking of the guy who rented the AirBnB he went back to.

Freysimo · 19/07/2024 07:13

Livelovebehappy · 18/07/2024 23:28

I think a charity is actually paying for the repatriation costs, so guessing the money raised is solely for the funeral. I personally won’t be giving, because I don’t think the Gofundme pages are regulated properly, so wouldn’t donate anyway. But, as others have said, it isn’t compulsory to donate, and so if people want to do so, it’s no-one else’s business really.

I never donate via any Gofundme platform for same reason. Prefer to go direct to charity.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 19/07/2024 07:08

TacCat49 · 19/07/2024 06:08

But, at what value was the 'go fund me' page at when she requested more donations? I'm not in the UK.

Its a worldwide website, you don't need to be in the UK to see it

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 19/07/2024 07:07

PixieLaLar · 18/07/2024 23:26

The whole go fund me doesn’t sit right. The way it was created the same day he went missing and now asking for more money….60k is WAY more than enough to transport a body back to the uk and have a funeral.

I'm not defending the gfm and won't be donating but having just looked at it it clearly wasn't started the same day.

If you're going to criticize at least get the basics right

LaurieFairyCake · 19/07/2024 07:06

Pffft ... maybe she's paying the search teams to find the stolen Rolex Hmm

My only concern is it's always those who least have it that donate

And I still want my £20 back from that captain tom woman - white and MIDDLE class Hmm

cauliflowercheeseplease · 19/07/2024 07:03

TacCat49 · 19/07/2024 06:08

But, at what value was the 'go fund me' page at when she requested more donations? I'm not in the UK.

Almost 60k

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MadameMassiveSalad · 19/07/2024 06:39

Garlickest · 18/07/2024 23:12

My opinion of Jay hasn't changed since he went missing: he's just a teenage twit. Giggling in court for ABH, not being able to find his own way back to his hotel, yomping off across the mountains because he wanted breakfast despite being offered a lift, knowing there would be a bus, and his mate Bradley telling him not to try walking.

All those of us who've been teenage twits could've come to a sad end. I once crossed a Greek island on foot, following a goat track, in the middle of the night. I'm glad I didn't end up down a ravine and I'm sorry Jay did.

His parents - and the secretive Lucy - have been extremely opaque on why they want all this money, though. It's none of my business but I don't have to like 'em for it.

Who is Lucy?

Mamai100 · 19/07/2024 06:27

murasaki · 18/07/2024 22:57

I don't know who you are taking about. My first thoughts are the Lawrences and Taylors, in which case shame on you.

This was the same poster who wrote A lot of it is simple prejudice because they are white, Northern, and working class.

And talked about there being more sympathy if they were from a racial minority.

Yes, society is so prejudiced towards the white working class. 🙄

Willmafrockfit · 19/07/2024 06:10

there is enough hate on the other thread.
so bring more hate why dont you

TacCat49 · 19/07/2024 06:08

But, at what value was the 'go fund me' page at when she requested more donations? I'm not in the UK.

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 06:03

Petrie99 · 19/07/2024 05:47

As I understand it they are a non profit. This doesnt mean they don't charge, only that they dont make anything. I read the go fund me money paid for them to go over and search. They are very specialist so the cost of travel and transporting equipment alone may have been a lot. Also repatriation is expensive

The Signi Zoekhondon team are volunteers. They flew out on the 15th, the same day Jay's remains were found by Tenerife police. I don't know what donation Debbie will be making to them, but I do know she's retained them to stay this week, searching for any of Jay's possessions the police search team may have missed. If she is paying them £52k, that's a very expensive shoelace or whatever they might find (if anything).

The whole thing's absurd. She hasn't once applauded the Tenerife search team for scrambling up and down those rocks for days and finding her son. The UK press is still quoting her that the "local police" stopped searching two weeks ago, and she was bloody rude about both the Tenerife force and the Guardia Civil who deployed planes and helicopters at the Spanish people's expense.

Repatriation of a body costs £2k - £6k according to the govt, cheaper if it's ashes. If she's having a marble sarcophagus made in Tenerife and flying him home in that, I guess it will be pricier.

dottiehens · 19/07/2024 06:02

I read that and yes I think she has been through the worse loosing her son. However, asking for more donations made me feel uncomfortable when reading it. It is up to the people who decide to make more donations. I know I wouldn’t.

MyBirthdayMonth · 19/07/2024 06:01

MakeMeAirtight · 18/07/2024 23:12

Dont speak ill of the dead.

This is Mumsnet, we'll speak ill of whom we damn well please.

AmberFawn · 19/07/2024 05:59

Manhere2024 · 19/07/2024 04:42

So you’re literally sending money to a terrorist enclave and think this makes you superior. Nice!

You think everyone in Palestine is a terrorist? Yes I’m sure all those children who just want to be able to go to school are definitely in on it. Ordinary people like you or I live there as well you know.

Thevelvelletes · 19/07/2024 05:55

I do if you're a fucker in life you're still a fucker in death.
I wouldn't go to a funeral if I didn't respect the person in life.

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 05:55

MakeMeAirtight · 18/07/2024 23:12

Dont speak ill of the dead.

What sort of a comment is that? Don't speak ill of the living would be more apt.

As I just posted, attitudes such as this reflect the collective insanity of this country when someone dies. No matter what kind of a person they were alive, they are on the road to beatification before the grave is filled (or the cameras havexstopped rolling)

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 05:50

cauliflowercheeseplease · 18/07/2024 22:53

Yes, that would be a lovely idea!

SM and the press definitely haven't helped the situation. Regardless of what he had or hadn't done in the past he was a missing lad whose family are in bits.

So philosophically, are you suggesting that when a person dies, all their misdemeanours, nasty acts, horrid comjments, all the wrong they wrought on people/society, are automatically cancelled because those left behind are upset?
Surely then, all the good things they did are also cancelled.

Somehow, people in this country canonise people when they die: no one ever admits their friend/relative/colleague was an arsehole,nor did shitty things

Petrie99 · 19/07/2024 05:47

Garlickest · 18/07/2024 22:50

She isn't economically disadvantaged. I don't know if she was before this tragedy, but she sure as hell isn't now.

The Dutch search team is a charity. They don't charge fees.

As I understand it they are a non profit. This doesnt mean they don't charge, only that they dont make anything. I read the go fund me money paid for them to go over and search. They are very specialist so the cost of travel and transporting equipment alone may have been a lot. Also repatriation is expensive

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 05:44

SeriousFaffing · 18/07/2024 22:36

She can ask. And people don’t have to donate if they don’t want to 🤷‍♀️

I think the time where it might have been seen as acceptable by some to poke fun at the economically disadvantaged in this case has long gone.

Edited

The income of the family is irrelevant. Rich and poor set up these begging pages

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 05:42

@janintherain, @Cocoda

In 2021, Jay, along with seven other youths, ambushed and chased fellow teen Tom Hilton in Rishton, Lancashire, attacking him with a machete, golf clubs, and an axe. Tom, who likened his attackers to 'a pack of gorillas', was left with a split skull following the assault, as well as injuries to his shoulders and legs.

Judge Parry stated: "You should all eight be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves but I am not at all convinced you are. Many of you have found these proceedings amusing throughout the trial and yesterday and today, showing disrespect to the court."

Jay also had priors for assault and drug dealing. I certainly don't think anyone should die in a stupid accident, and I do find it extra sad that he was so young. It hasn't transformed him into a saint, though: he was who he was.

The difference between this family and those of the hundreds of other young people missing right now, or found dead, isn't class. It's the incredible amount of publicity and money they have generated.

FancyNewt · 19/07/2024 05:35

I think it's an awful way for anyone to die and I'm sorry for the family's loss.

I can't imagine being in the parents position of losing their son and then reading vile threads like this.

I have no idea why they are asking for more money and I have read some of the news articles about Jay's past but I think that's all a side issue. He was a 19 year old who made an error of judgement that cost him his life. It's so very sad to think how he might have felt when he fell and what happened afterwards.

I have a feeling had he been a middle class boy from Surrey then the reaction would be different regardless of his past.

FailBetter · 19/07/2024 05:15

Baby Dax will be nine now.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 19/07/2024 05:10

jesus!! he wasnt an idol by any stretch of the imagination!! it looks more likely that he was a future jailbird! she has a cheek, he deserves a normal funeral which his parents should pay for, not the general public!!! all the fund needs to do now is repatriate the body, the rest is up to them!

Lucytheloose · 19/07/2024 05:02

Lovefromjuliaxo · 18/07/2024 23:36

I don’t think he bothered getting insurance

Surely the time has come to make travel insurance compulsory for people going abroad. You can't get on the plane or ferry without your passport, why shouldn't you have to produce evidence of medical and repatriation cover at the same time?

Thevelvelletes · 19/07/2024 04:54

LunaNorth · 19/07/2024 03:14

Why not? If a dickhead dies, they don’t become an angel instantly. They just become a dead dickhead.

Exactly if you're a cunt in life
You're not sainthood material in death.