Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations

Bizarre to me that people donate. They already have enough for a funeral surely?

Not necessarily. Cost my friend a fortune when her dad passed away abroad, and he had really good insurance due to medical issues he suffered from.

It's an absolute fucking disgrace.

Are people jealous that she has had some money donated to her. She lost her son FFS. I'm sure she'd rather have him back than whatever money is left after all the costs.

I'm going to donate and I hope his family know there are more decent people out there than there are spiteful cunts.

Not talking about anyone in particular here but I find the whole concept of tragic death or just death = ask random people for money as absolutely vile and entitled.

@Fluffyelephant Wow. Yeah, Jay Slater’s mum, family and friends really need to take a reality check because their grief and circumstances are measured to be not as bad as someone else’s.

Picking apart the details of the who, what, why and how the fundraiser was set up just isn’t a good look. Nor is speculating how much money has been spent when a public statement on this has been put out on behalf of the family.

Wild. Just absolutely wild.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevw4jw9j4wo.amp

It’s just as possible to argue from the opposite perspective. The news story I read about John Hunt’s GoFundMe contained a direct quote from him, saying that he wanted to ensure his daughter didn’t ever have to worry about money, given the terrible loss she’s facing. But apart from the funerals, no particular costs came out of the awful murders themselves.

Whereas Jay Slater’s mother had immediate and unforeseen open-ended expenses directly connected to Jay’s disappearance. Which she wasn’t able to cover, and wasn’t able to quantify. Flights, accommodation, paying for search parties, paying for specialist teams from abroad, etc, and now repatriating his body. All of which costs money.

People have said she was given things for free but there’s been so much malice and so many lies thrown her way that I don’t see why those claims should automatically be believed.

People were also posting a video showing her dancing in a UK pub which was clearly filmed years ago. The goady caption said she was dancing while her son was missing, without a care in the world! But it was obviously an old video - she looked years younger.

People are vile.

But the father didn't set that up and hasn't been actively promoting it from what I've seen. It was created by a family friend / his employer.

Plus it's still a bit different. Their whole family has been wiped out and not in a tragic accident but in a vicious murder. It seems unlikely either the daughter or the father will be able to work for a very significant time while they come to terms with this. And I don't know what financial contribution the mother made to the household but that would also potentially impact her husband or daughter.

Whereas Jay Slater's mother shouldn't have been financially dependent on his income. And while I know she's devastated and will need some time off work, it's different as she has lost one child in an accident as a result of his actions and will need to go back to work to support herself in the long run.

Again how does it impact you ,its you that has said you think she will have a big funeral
With no confirmation of this
Nobody is forcing anyone to donate to the go fund me
Ut if she does choose a big showy funeral ,why do you care ?

at the moment... £65,772 has been raised which is 219% of the current £30,000 target and 657% of the original 10k target which seems kind of modest now.

Thanks for explaining Go Fund Me to us, we've never really heard about how it works before because it's suchhh a new concept

I’m currently embroiled in a repatriation required due to no travel insurance. The person who died knew they were ill, which made insurance prohibitive. So they decided to risk it anyway. 🤦🏻‍♀️ 😡 They died on holiday. They are divorced so their poor children, 19 and 23, have the task of getting the body home. I don’t think much of this parent, but their children aren’t to blame for their parent’s selfishness. Luckily the children’s friends have set up a go fund me and have raised almost enough in 24 hours.

💯. But you have to pay for it and not expect other people to!

"The amount of hatred they’ve received on social media is grotesque. A lot of it is simple prejudice because they are white, Northern, and working class."

A quote like this only reminds me of the soft bigotry of low expectations...

My humble opinion is this post makes you look like a cunt.

Ok, I've been Googling! Here are some. There are more examples should you wish to Google:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jay-slater-missing-tenerife-police-b2572867.htm

Jay Slater's mum tells of ‘agony' as searches fail to find son - BBC News

Missing Jay Slater's mum Debbie Duncan gives update on new Tenerife plans for GoFundMe cash (msn.com)

@Mencia one of the very first searches that comes up, once you’ve looked past the click bait.

Do they think sitting in deck chairs, wiping away the lard coming out of their sweat pores from all those dustbin lid sized "full Ingg-Urrr-Landish breskfusckts" while calling everyone involved in the search a cunt for not doing enough will encourage other people to help them? Yes, they genuinely do

But they're not wrong are they?
Very obviously it's an individual's choice whether to give or not, but the sums suggest that many are indeed prepared to "help them", though to what is unclear

And as many have said, being tragically bereaved and a shabby grifter aren't mutually exclusive - the two can exist at the same time

@SallyWD you’d think that the judge, jury and executioners would have been able to do a bit of googling themselves, wouldn’t you. They seem very assured of their own knowledge by method of speculation otherwise.

This thread is honestly unbelievable.

I'm supposed to be working but wasting time on Mumsnet! His mum Debbie has released many statements. Several of them thanked the police and rescue services. Maybe if I have time later I can Google them.

In my humble opinion the elder Slaters are taking the absolute fcuking piss. Arrogance, entitlement, idleness, greed, and an unwarranted sense of self importance so vast it makes Kanye West seem like a nice chap. Nothing's good enough for them, everyone's a cunt for not doing enough for them, me me me me, I demand this, I demand that.

One of the things they whinged about whilst slagging off the police force for being so-called "useless" was "Why aren't they out searching with the helicopter?"

It's simple: an EC-135 kitted out with day/night sensors, all-weather capability, open water capability, and SAR capability costs a spit more than £100 a MINUTE to operate.
Did they offer to pay anything towards the 250+ hours of rotary wing support they've already had? No.
Do they think that the hard working Spanish taxpayers are financially responsible for their son's "misadventure"? Yes.
Did it cross their small minds even for a second that on a tiny island (the UK is ten thousand times larger than Tenerifa) surrounded by open ocean the SAR Helo might be needed for other things? No.
Do they think sitting in deck chairs, wiping away the lard coming out of their sweat pores from all those dustbin lid sized "full Ingg-Urrr-Landish breskfusckts" while calling everyone involved in the search a cunt for not doing enough will encourage other people to help them? Yes, they genuinely do.

If the same thing happened in reverse, there'd be a single column towards the back of this week's Merthyr Express about "Stupid foreign kid goes on 3 day class a drug binge, decides it's a good idea to try the Fan Dance, realises Isaac Newton wasn't lying after all" and that'd be it.

Even I'm not as arrogant as this lot - and that's saying something...

Can you share that with me? I have not seen any words of thanks anywhere.

Well we know he got into a fight aged 16, that he was a background figure in the fight who got a lesser sentence than the others. He wasn't the person wielding the machete. Very poor behaviour from him but to dismiss his entire existence as a vicious thug doesn't sit right with me. He died alone aged 19 presumably feeling very frightened. I don't think it's really the time for a bunch of strangers to label him a vicious thug as if there was nothing more to him than that.

Yes, several times

My worst nightmare would be to have a son who was a vicious thug but I guess we are all different.

If she wants a big showy funeral she should pay for it herself.