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Jay Slaters mum asking for more donations

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cauliflowercheeseplease · 18/07/2024 22:32

I understand it's an awful thing that's happened but the Gofundme has reached almost 60k and Jay's mum is asking for more donation to give him a memorable send off.
I'm sure there is more than enough left to enable her to do this after she's paid out those that have helped with the search? Although I did read somewhere some of those that flew out went home earlier as she didn't pay as promised?
Is this wrong of me to say?

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cadburyegg · 19/07/2024 00:39

I really dislike gofundme for these reasons.

God knows what the money will be spent on.

I think Jay's mate saw a money spinning idea and went for it. Why else would she set it up only a day or so after he went missing? I find that really odd. His mum saying please give us more instead of closing it down is absurd. 60k!!!

A lot of teenagers make bad decisions but there's making bad decisions and there's attacking someone with a machete and skipping down a mountain by yourself in a foreign country...

FatmanandKnobbin · 19/07/2024 00:39

It's not unusual to get donations for a funeral.

My son died in the 90s and my brothers places of work, and some close friends places of work had a whip round to help me out with funeral costs, and I've contributed to many over the years as well.

It's a bit different now with the online world, but a funeral and having time off work to grieve etc is bloody expensive.

After my son died I let myself be guided by those around me to some extent as well, she may not be the driving force behind any decisions, or she may just solely be focusing on his funeral because she is going to be hauled through the press and dragged online about how big/small/quiet/busy/whatever his funeral may be, as she has been throughout the last month of her going through the most awful thing a parent ever can.

There's no need to scrutinise this woman any further, those who want to donate will, and those who don't want to can just ignore it.

Ihopeithinkiknow · 19/07/2024 00:39

murasaki · 19/07/2024 00:29

Well it costs a lot to upgrade your sofa because you can't sit on it as your son did, and your TV as your son looked at it and your paintwork as he saw it and.....

It might seem stupid to you to have these thoughts but I lost my 22 year old son in an accident in 2022 and I cried the first time I made lasagna without him there because it was the first lasagna we were having without him, I had to move house last week and leave the washing machine and a few other items behind and again I was crying about that because I used to wash his clothes in that washing machine. It sounds completely fucking crazy but these are thoughts and feelings I have had over the last 2 years so you taking the piss out of a mother for saying these things seems a bit cunty but I will say I am so so glad you obviously haven't had to think things like that so in a way I can't blame you for thinking it's odd.

Nsky62 · 19/07/2024 00:37

I stupidly thought, they’d money left to donate to a worthy cause, of course it’s sad.
A posh funeral won’t change anything

ComingUpTrumps · 19/07/2024 00:36

Manhere2024 · 18/07/2024 22:54

None of that money has gone to her.

I can think of parents of other teenagers who’ve died tragically, who’ve made long careers and become very rich off the back of it. Maybe they deserve your ire instead.

Like who?

Biggleslefae · 19/07/2024 00:34

It doesn't look good to be milking the tragic death of your young son. Although it pains me to say it. She I guess is aware that the tragedy of the situation is what allows her to get away with it.
Maybe we should blame GoFundMe for indulging peoples worst impulses like this?

AmberFawn · 19/07/2024 00:30

I’ve not read much on this until this evening, so the guy was a thief and a thug, and people are queuing up to donate to honour him?
I can’t understand it, what about the children starving and unable to get even basic medical care in Palestine or a hundred other places right now.

murasaki · 19/07/2024 00:29

Well it costs a lot to upgrade your sofa because you can't sit on it as your son did, and your TV as your son looked at it and your paintwork as he saw it and.....

Twicethethinker · 19/07/2024 00:25

It costs on average 3 to 4 thousand for repatriation of the body, then at most 7/8 thousand for a funeral, a fancy one at that. So what on earth does she need more for? That's assuming he didn't have insurance which covers bringing him home which he should have. It's just ridiculous and it should be closed down now, seems like last minute cashing in tbh.

BlazenWeights · 19/07/2024 00:20

Manhere2024 · 18/07/2024 22:51

I actually think it would be amazing if in future we see Jay Slater’s parents Debbie and Warren set up charitable foundations and can make something positive happen out of this.

The amount of hatred they’ve received on social media is grotesque. A lot of it is simple prejudice because they are white, Northern, and working class.

If they came from a socially approved minority I’m sure their family tragedy would have been portrayed far more sympathetically.

Not sure why you think colour plays a role here. Also what is a socially approved minority? Sound like a white person trying to make themselves a victim, people are not impressed because of his behavioural history not his skin colour and if he was a minority, outcomes for him are not great at sl

Garlickest · 19/07/2024 00:18

Sunrisemouse · 18/07/2024 23:38

I have read a post from the mum that the search team they brought over cost £52k

I've seen that everywhere. Signi Zoekhondon is a charity, staffed by volunteers. She later said she's covering their costs and making a donation. If she's literally covering the costs, it will be quite a big sum. We'll never know.

@Biggleslefae, the parents have been receiving specialist support from another charity, LBT Global. They're also being supported by the British Consulate and many Tenerife businesses, including (I believe) free accommodation.

Latest calls for funding have been specifically for the biggest, best funeral. I mean, okay, but I don't like it. I do understand that a lot of people reach for their debit cards when they want to express sympathy. To me, this feels like milking that sympathy.

£64,727 raised of £30,000 target

Refugenewbie · 19/07/2024 00:16

PrimalOwl10 · 18/07/2024 22:44

It's seems to be very money oriented and doesn't sit right with me personally but as pp said its up to people if they wish to donate however I do think 60k is more than enough and asking for more seems ingenious.

The word you are looking for is disingenuous. Which you probably already know and this is a predictive text fail. Sorry, I can't help it :)

TheFairyCaravan · 19/07/2024 00:12

murasaki · 19/07/2024 00:09

Class is sort of irrelevant here. In my mind his mum is no different from 'Captain' Tom's daughter.

That ended well.

I was just about to post that she reminds me of Captain Tom’s daughter, the way she’s got pound signs flashing in front of her eyes. It’s not right to come out and ask for more money. It’s really not. The greed is disgusting.

murasaki · 19/07/2024 00:09

Class is sort of irrelevant here. In my mind his mum is no different from 'Captain' Tom's daughter.

That ended well.

WetherspoonsSnob · 19/07/2024 00:06

Comedycook · 18/07/2024 23:19

I think the whole situation is actually quite an interesting insight into social classes in the UK.

I've noticed on Facebook that the working classes have embraced this story and ironically the lower, poorer classes are usually the type who are most likely to donate to something like this.

Embraced in what regard, uncritically or critically?

MixedCouple2 · 19/07/2024 00:05

It depends what it is needed for. As long as recipets are provided what the money is being used for etc. Then up to people if they wish to donate.
Me personally no. There are people more deserving of my charity. Those in war town countries and suffering from famine.

Biggleslefae · 19/07/2024 00:03

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 18/07/2024 23:56

Exactly. We can feel immense sympathy for her loss, - while also feeling the GFM is inappropriate.

Yes, I cant imagine the pain she must be in but I'm not sure I'd be in my right mind if I were in her shoes.
Maybe she just doesn't have anyone to offer a bit of guidance?

IllMetByMoonlight · 19/07/2024 00:02

Itisjustmyopinion · 18/07/2024 23:58

Maybe your concern should go to the mother of the lad that he violently attacked

I know that is where my sympathies lie

You know, it is entirely possible to hold two difficult truths in mind simultaneously.

This tragedy does not call for spectators to take sides.

It's not the playground.

SinnerBoy · 19/07/2024 00:01

MakeMeAirtight · Today 23:03

He without sin and all that...

Yes. Which of us hasn't been part of an eight strong gang, which chased a lone, unarmed boy down, before hacking, slashing, clubbing and kicking him almost to death?

LuluBlakey1 · 19/07/2024 00:00

Comedycook · 18/07/2024 23:26

Lower, upper, meh. The class structure in the UK is entrenched I'm afraid.

And yes look at the people discussing this on Facebook, the interest in this case has been overwhelmingly from the working class section of society. They feel like he is one of their own, hence why they are so willing to donate

I don't agree about why many have donated. I think lots of that was driven by social media and armchair TikTokers/Facebookers who just delighted in the drama of it and were desperate to 'be part of it'.
Some of the comments were appallingly pathetic and ridiculous 'Oh I have been awake all night listening to the news and looking on line for updates. If he isn't found today I don't know how I can go on' (+ picture of praying hands icon) 'Prayers to all' from someone whose previous posts were about Katie Price's latest boob job and a local cheap alcohol shop.
Some were clearly people local to the family back in Lancashire. Some were genuinely being kind and wanted no publicity so didn't leave names.

Lwrenn · 19/07/2024 00:00

Peak mumsnet achieved right here.

Teenager dies whilst off his cake in the sun tragically.

Mumsnet - the perfect opportunity to talk about class!

As somewhat of a originally under class pleb, (upgraded to working now) from the North West I really don't know anyone who's been remotely invested in this. It's very sad for any parents and family to lose someone so young. My charity money won't be going to poor wee Jay's GFM because my chosen charity's are for Palestine because that's what I want anything I can spare to go to.
If other people's hearts are heavy over Jay Slater then they're free to donate.
I've seen GFM set up for much more odd things than a young dead person before, I think I can cut her slack. She has no idea how much it'll cost to cover the expenses now and going forward.
I'd not wish what she must be going through right now on absolutely anybody. I wish her well, nobody should have to bury a child.

cauliflowercheeseplease · 19/07/2024 00:00

@TwattyMcFuckFace not really. I said from the off it's terrible what's happened, but surely now you'd want to grieve in peace? It's coming up to 5 days since he was found and already more money is being asked for. Would that be the first thing on your mind? Definitely wouldn't be mine. Getting him home and being with over ones would be. A funeral doesn't have to be an extravagant event, all that matters is his family and friends are there.

We are all allowed to have our own thoughts on this, but just because it doesn't match what the high and mighty think then things get heated.

Yes she's lost her son. She should be coming to terms with that, not going to the press to ask for more donations. It doesn't look good at all

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TikehauLilly · 18/07/2024 23:58

The GFM should make eveeyone (deemed appropriate) "whole" again regarding costs for their effort this past month to find him. I'm not sure what else would be left of the 60k after a month of costs but I'd not be asking for loads more for a fancy funeral... but each to their own.

Poor woman x

Itisjustmyopinion · 18/07/2024 23:58

IllMetByMoonlight · 18/07/2024 23:53

Don't need to. It's got nothing to do with me. I know JT went missing and was subsequently found dead.
That's enough.
A dead young man = a bereft mother.
This is a parenting site where we support and uplift at best, and if we can't do that, then we can at least refrain from judgement. C'mon.

Maybe your concern should go to the mother of the lad that he violently attacked

I know that is where my sympathies lie

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 18/07/2024 23:56

Hiphopopotamonster · 18/07/2024 22:48

  1. what happened to her son is incredibly tragic. I can’t imagine losing a child and what that would feel like. I have deepest sympathy for her and anyone that has gone through that.

  2. it’s not ok to ask for money and essentially use her child’s death to solicit donations that are now not needed except for her own personal use.

Both of these things can be true. And I think it does need saying as those who tend to donate to these causes are often quite vulnerable and not particularly well off themselves.

Exactly. We can feel immense sympathy for her loss, - while also feeling the GFM is inappropriate.