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Dh wants to vote BNP.

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:13

So everyone has the right to vote for who they want. It’s a democracy after all. However, dh just informed me that he plans to vote BNP this year. I was stunned into silence. I will admit I do not follow politics in the way others do but from what I’ve heard and read about BNP I feel differently about dh now. I’m looking at him differently and feel a bit ashamed of his decision.
what does everyone else think about BNP? Am I missing something?

I guess my AIBU would be
IABU as BNP are a decent political party and it’s up to him.
or IANBU they are homophobic racists who don’t deserve to be a legal party.

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IamaRevenant · 23/06/2024 13:46

I left my ex when I'd found he voted UKIP. Twat was Polish. Thick and racist and basically voting against himself.

I wouldn't be with someone now who had such conflicting views to me no.

PeonySeasons · 23/06/2024 13:50

Pure clickbait and froth - no BNP member is standing under that name as far as I can identity.

MateyMusings · 23/06/2024 13:52

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:54

ginasevern · 23/06/2024 13:41

Well someone's got to him and given that his brother is a conspiracy theorist etc, I don't think the answer is far from home. Has your DH shown any other unusual behaviour lately?

The only thing that has happened lately. This is not a drip feed I can’t see how it is connected but his mum has just been diagnosed with cancer and started treatment this week. That’s the only different thing going on in our lives. We’re obviously really worried about her but how that would manifest into changing political stance I have no idea. She’s been treated amazingly by the NHS. Would something like this change your mind on politics? I can’t see how? Unless I’m being naive?

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:55

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If reform are better believe me I’d be glad to know about it. I’m currently rethinking everything I thought I knew about my partner.

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:57

PeonySeasons · 23/06/2024 13:50

Pure clickbait and froth - no BNP member is standing under that name as far as I can identity.

In previous messages I’ve updated I say that I think maybe he is talking about reform. I’ve also stated I don’t know anything about them other than they seem to have links or ideas like BNP.

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Icanttakethisanymore · 23/06/2024 13:57

If he means Reform, maybe he shouldn’t vote at all. He sounds confused (and probably a bit racist)

PattyDuckface · 23/06/2024 13:57

Maybe people with legitimate worries about mass immigration into the UK find no alternative party to vote for?

Why don't you talk to him about what he thinks and feels about the country and politics in general and see what he thinks the BNP stand for? Writing him off as a racist or a "deplorable" as Hilary said just before the deplorables voted in Trump, is not really the way forward for your relationship in micro and the broader conversation in macro.

It seems that a lot of people have conflated curbing immigration and racism. The UK is one of the few countries in Europe that is moving further left in its likely voting in Labour next month, and the reason is that everyone thinks the Conservatives are far right fascists and that's the problem but the reality is they have governed over a period of enormous immigration into the UK never seen before that has left many people strangers in their own country.

It's sad that probably the least racist country in the world is crippling itself by never being able to talk about issues that seriously affect people for fear of racism

Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:58

Tulula · 23/06/2024 13:34

It does sound like you're trying to whip people up... Why are you asking strangers when we can all access the same Google

I’m genuinely not! What would be the purpose of that?

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/06/2024 13:59

I didn't realise the BNP still existed.

I couldn't stay with someone who wanted to vote for them.

MateyMusings · 23/06/2024 14:00

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 14:01

PattyDuckface · 23/06/2024 13:57

Maybe people with legitimate worries about mass immigration into the UK find no alternative party to vote for?

Why don't you talk to him about what he thinks and feels about the country and politics in general and see what he thinks the BNP stand for? Writing him off as a racist or a "deplorable" as Hilary said just before the deplorables voted in Trump, is not really the way forward for your relationship in micro and the broader conversation in macro.

It seems that a lot of people have conflated curbing immigration and racism. The UK is one of the few countries in Europe that is moving further left in its likely voting in Labour next month, and the reason is that everyone thinks the Conservatives are far right fascists and that's the problem but the reality is they have governed over a period of enormous immigration into the UK never seen before that has left many people strangers in their own country.

It's sad that probably the least racist country in the world is crippling itself by never being able to talk about issues that seriously affect people for fear of racism

Thank you. I do intend to do some more research as I do feel I am very naive. I think when we spoke yesterday I was so shocked. I don’t particularly trust any party to be honest.

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 14:02

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I need to do more research. I just can’t believe at all that he is racist so I guess I need to speak to him about exactly why he intends to vote this way and I’d like to know what else they stand for.

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Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 14:03

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 23/06/2024 13:59

I didn't realise the BNP still existed.

I couldn't stay with someone who wanted to vote for them.

Apparently they don’t. It’s reform, I’m going to do some research.

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MateyMusings · 23/06/2024 14:05

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dapsnotplimsolls · 23/06/2024 14:06

Did he actually say BNP? If so, ask him for the name of your local BNP candidate. Could be interesting.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 23/06/2024 14:07

ginasevern · 23/06/2024 13:35

"He’s quite into politics in general, I said ‘we have election coming up, he asked when"

So he's quite into politics but doesn't know when the general election is? The one that's been in the papers for months. The one where everyone is talking about annihilating the Tories - that one.

He's hood winking you into thinking he has superior knowledge when in fact he's a fuck wit. It also sounds like his brother has sucked him into conspiracy theories and rabbit holes. Don't dismiss his influence. It all sounds a bit dangerous and I would re-evaluate my relationship if I was you.

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bluelavender · 23/06/2024 14:08

Successful relationships can have areas where there are different points of view but this feels very much like core values. If you have a deep feelings on this then it's worth listening to them

pikkumyy77 · 23/06/2024 14:09

BakedOrDeepFried · 23/06/2024 13:36

Reform is not the same as BNP. I'm not voting for them because Farage is a prick but I wouldn't be horrified/sickened if someone I knew was, in fact a few of my friends are.

Yes it is.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 23/06/2024 14:10

Reform are a private company run by the extreme right-wing as a political party. It is the closest 5hing we have to the BNP and their manifesto/contract reads along the same lines to material the BNP used to put out.

StripeyDeckchair · 23/06/2024 14:10

This would be enough to make me end the relationship - they are a nasty group of racist, homophobic, misogynist men (very few women involved) and should not be able to pass themselves off as a political party.

MasterBeth · 23/06/2024 14:10

I tell you what, your husband sounds fucking think.

BakedOrDeepFried · 23/06/2024 14:11

@pikkumyy77 Erm, no, it's not.

Fgfgfg · 23/06/2024 14:12

Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 13:13

So everyone has the right to vote for who they want. It’s a democracy after all. However, dh just informed me that he plans to vote BNP this year. I was stunned into silence. I will admit I do not follow politics in the way others do but from what I’ve heard and read about BNP I feel differently about dh now. I’m looking at him differently and feel a bit ashamed of his decision.
what does everyone else think about BNP? Am I missing something?

I guess my AIBU would be
IABU as BNP are a decent political party and it’s up to him.
or IANBU they are homophobic racists who don’t deserve to be a legal party.

Tell him he'll struggle to vote BNP because they don't have anyone standing.
However a range of other racist parties are standing. Maybe he's confused and it's one of the other parties.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2024/06/12/general-election-far-right-radical-right-candidates-2024/

Poltershighclimb99 · 23/06/2024 14:12

YaWeeFurryBastard · 23/06/2024 13:43

Well it’s just a load of bollocks isn’t it. Your “well up on politics” husband didn’t tell you he was voting BNP if he was actually voting Reform. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of politics wouldn’t conflate the two.

There was confusion on my part. i said something like ‘who are you voting for’, he said ‘im not saying’ so I’m a bit annoying and kept guessing, when he said no to all the legitimate parties I just looked at him and said ‘are you joking, they’re racist’. so BNP was never mentioned by name. that was just my terrible knowledge of politics. He didn’t say BNP or reform, he most likely presumes I know about reform. Which I did not. I just said he was interested in politics, it’s not like I said he was a politician.

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