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DD6’s party, Jemima’s mother and the clownfairy part 2

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Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 03:44

Hi all

After my last post here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

I thought some of you might be interested in an update.

The clown/fairy I had booked ghosted me when I tried to confirm!!!! so for a moment there I was panicking about having no entertainer and felt that the mumsnet curse of hoping that DD had a shitty party would come true!!!!! luckily though, I have found and booked a back up fairy. So that mitigates the clown phobia risk

9 guests have RSVPed if a total of 12 invites (I had guessed 15), 3 TBC. Of the 12, I know 6 mothers (most of them just to say hi to at school). 3 who have RSVPed I couldn’t pick out of a line up. So far no other parents have asked to stay. Or indeed asked for any other details (or an “plan”)about the party.

Forecast is for pissing rain on Sunday.

The last few pages of the thread took a weird turn while I was asleep and started talking about swimming parties and lifeguards. We do actually have a pool … (I know I sound like I’m trolling at this point.) There will not be a lifeguard on duty, but as it’s about 12 degrees here so I don’t think anyone will be getting in the unheated pool.

(Am WFH today because DS has a high fever and power-chucked in the hallway last night while I was making cupcakes at 10pm for the sodding school fundraiser. As DS coughed in my face while he spreadeagled across my bed, I did think wistfully of one poster on the last thread who thought I was probably a cashed up career woman who barely saw her kids.)

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I’m fully prepared to be told I’m BU but I’m not changing my mind just upfront 😂 (I know that can be annoying when responding to AIBU posts). DD6’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

OP posts:
HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:15

In my part of the UK we dropped and ran from age 5.

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 11:09

Crankymonkey · 18/06/2024 11:01

I think this thread (or threads) have highlighted one thing really: how worryingly high anxiety levels are amongst many parents in the UK now. If at all this should be a thing to reflect on but I doubt this ever happens on MN which is a haven for people to reinforce each others neuroticisms.

I don't think it's a case of having high anxiety levels at all, and it's definitely not about being neurotic as you so kindly put it.

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 11:05

InterIgnis · 18/06/2024 11:01

You clearly are, even if your purpose is to provide the clownery.

I’m interested in the threads, and as such can’t exactly avoid your posts. Would that I could.

And no, I don’t care to any more than OP does.

So you can't answer me, is that because you secretly agree that it's not safe to leave all those kids in a house with one person looking after them?

Or is it because you're irresponsible too? .... No need to answer, as you'll probably only come up with another daft remark I imagine.

BiscuitsBunsCakesandScones · 18/06/2024 11:04

itstheendoftheworldasweknowitnow · 18/06/2024 05:50

I’m married to a kiwi. The cultural differences are vast!!! Personally I find kiwi women a fascinating mix of laid back yet chippy as fuck. You never know what’s going to grind their gears unexpectedly!
it’s all yeah nah until it ISN’T 🤣

Poor old Jemima’s mum got right up your goat, didn’t she?!

OMG I am married to a kiwi too and your description of kiwi women is SPOT ON (kiwi husband agrees).

Hope the party goes well OP.

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:04

VanGoSunflowers · Today 09:50
"Some posters really need to read the room and lighten the fuck up"

This. I love the op's sense of humour !

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 11:02

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:52

Think we might outnumber you there. I think a friendly handshake should solve it all ( though it is Aussie and we did create the pavlova), Runs away
Let's not mention Phar Lap .

At Least We’ve Got Crowded House

hard stare

Crankymonkey · 18/06/2024 11:01

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:40

I'm not going on about Jemima's mum here though am I.

It doesn't matter that it's not a requirement, it's a matter of having a degree of common sense not to leave all those kids with just one adult.

I think this thread (or threads) have highlighted one thing really: how worryingly high anxiety levels are amongst many parents in the UK now. If at all this should be a thing to reflect on but I doubt this ever happens on MN which is a haven for people to reinforce each others neuroticisms.

InterIgnis · 18/06/2024 11:01

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:56

Thanks for the interest, but I'm not trying to 'achieve' anything. I'm entitled to join in on a public forum, not that I need to explain myself to you.

Maybe you could answer, seeing as you're obviously interested in my posts, would YOU think it's acceptable to look after 15 5/6 year olds, completely alone, at a party for 3 hours?

Is this a 'batshit' question to you?

You clearly are, even if your purpose is to provide the clownery.

I’m interested in the threads, and as such can’t exactly avoid your posts. Would that I could.

And no, I don’t care to any more than OP does.

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:57

Yes, what are all you people doing at a 6yo's birthday party. Let them be 6! They don't need mum looking over them. I find it very odd. ( obvious mumsnet exclusion for ND and kids allergic to make-up and ponies 🙄)

Snugglemonkey · 18/06/2024 10:57

SheerLucks · 18/06/2024 08:01

I was talking to my DH about this yesterday and we both thought the same.

Did it occur to you OP that maybe this woman just wanted a chance to get to know you and make friends?

When hosting a birthday party for a load of 6 year olds is not a great "making friends" moment. Surely a playdate at a park for 2 kids would be more suited to that?

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:56

InterIgnis · 18/06/2024 10:46

What are you trying to achieve here, exactly? Op isn’t going to start taking you seriously any more than she’s going to change her plans because you think she should. All you’re managing to do is, graciously I suppose, contribute the same batshittery that was witnessed on the last thread.

Thanks for the interest, but I'm not trying to 'achieve' anything. I'm entitled to join in on a public forum, not that I need to explain myself to you.

Maybe you could answer, seeing as you're obviously interested in my posts, would YOU think it's acceptable to look after 15 5/6 year olds, completely alone, at a party for 3 hours?

Is this a 'batshit' question to you?

DramaAlpaca · 18/06/2024 10:52

Willmafrockfit · 18/06/2024 07:30

ds is 30 this year but no way did parents want to stay at his 6th birthday party
and he was one of the eldest in the class.
have times really changed that much?

I was going to post exactly the same. Glad it wasn't just me!

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:52

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 10:47

We could get our lifeguards to fight on our behalf?

Think we might outnumber you there. I think a friendly handshake should solve it all ( though it is Aussie and we did create the pavlova), Runs away
Let's not mention Phar Lap .

OperationPushkin · 18/06/2024 10:50

How many more ways will people find to insult the OP? Honestly, it's so odd. The entire situation was resolved swiftly and smoothly, Jemima's mother seems fine with leaving her DD at the party. Why the need to continue attacking the OP?

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 10:48

I have a Very Important Question that has not been addressed in this or the previous thread.

What on earth does a party fairy do? Obviously a clown is going to do clown type things but other than frolicking around the place, waving her wand and smiling, how will the fairy entertain?

Bushmillsbabe · 18/06/2024 10:47

Deadpretty · 18/06/2024 10:10

And they were the same 5/6 yo’s who were dropped off at parties…. SEN aside (which is very different), parents do their kids no favours by never letting them sort things out for themselves. Parents are quite happy for one person to look after 30 of them in a class (whilst they are not there), but it’s an issue for one person looking after a dozen of them from the same class whilst they are fully entertained for 3 hours on a Saturday?

Absolutely. 2 of us lead a Rainbows group of nearly 30 4-6 year olds.
Comments that OP cannot manage 10 of them on her own are a little patronising. She wouldn't have offered if she didn't think she could do it.

When I was a child no one stayed even at 5. All my daughters friends parents stayed at 5, which was not any issue for me, but a change.

It's good for children to have a bit of independence, where it's safe and appropriate for them to do so.
From 7, I was under strict instructions from my oldest to 'drop and go', and most were the same.

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 10:47

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:45

Oh dear! "Yeah Nah" is totally Aussie. We may have to go to war. Such a shame as we are basically very friendly cousins . Honestly didn't know you Kiwi's said it. It is a very Australian thing. This is going to be like the pavolva all over again. This thread has thrown up many cultural quirks! 😁

Edited

We could get our lifeguards to fight on our behalf?

InterIgnis · 18/06/2024 10:46

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:40

I'm not going on about Jemima's mum here though am I.

It doesn't matter that it's not a requirement, it's a matter of having a degree of common sense not to leave all those kids with just one adult.

What are you trying to achieve here, exactly? Op isn’t going to start taking you seriously any more than she’s going to change her plans because you think she should. All you’re managing to do is, graciously I suppose, contribute the same batshittery that was witnessed on the last thread.

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:45

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 10:37

@marmarmalade

“ I agree with you in every way and did love the pegging and internet jokes but "Yeah nah" is Australian. No copying please. 😉”

realise this wasn’t directed at me but I am HORRIFIED at this blatant (and dare I say VERY AUSTRALIAN) theft of OUR LINGO

Oh dear! "Yeah Nah" is totally Aussie. We may have to go to war. Such a shame as we are basically very friendly cousins . Honestly didn't know you Kiwi's said it. It is a very Australian thing. This is going to be like the pavolva all over again. This thread has thrown up many cultural quirks! 😁

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:40

Didimum · 18/06/2024 10:27

The thing is, however, this is complete conjecture. You can't summon up reasons that might be bothering Jemima's mother with no evidence that this is what's bothering her (well, you can, but they have no basis). If this was bothering Jemima's mother then she would have/can say this to the OP – but she hasn't.

Child to adult ratios are not a requirement anywhere but a professional childcare setting, so insisting that the OP take heed of this is unreasonable to expect. And that is added to the fact that you have no evidence it bother's Jemima's mum.

We can assume YOU are bothered by it, but that's completely irrelevant to anything.

I'm not going on about Jemima's mum here though am I.

It doesn't matter that it's not a requirement, it's a matter of having a degree of common sense not to leave all those kids with just one adult.

Horseebooks · 18/06/2024 10:37

@marmarmalade

“ I agree with you in every way and did love the pegging and internet jokes but "Yeah nah" is Australian. No copying please. 😉”

realise this wasn’t directed at me but I am HORRIFIED at this blatant (and dare I say VERY AUSTRALIAN) theft of OUR LINGO

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 10:29

SheerLucks · 18/06/2024 08:01

I was talking to my DH about this yesterday and we both thought the same.

Did it occur to you OP that maybe this woman just wanted a chance to get to know you and make friends?

I don't think a 6 year old's birthday party is the best environment to make friends with the host...

Didimum · 18/06/2024 10:27

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 09:06

I was on the last thread, and it was obvious that the OP couldn't answer simple questions. I asked her if she'd mentioned in her invites that it'd only be her alone supervising 15 young children, and instead of answering, she just mocked what id written and went off on a bizarre 'you're not my boss, you're not a health and safety inspector' tangent.

The reason I asked is because I think it's irresponsible to expect to be able to look after all those kids for 3 hours completely alone.
I mean, what would she do if there's an emergency? .... How can she possibly, safely, ensure that the kids will be ok? She can't. After all, no one can forsee what could potentially happen .

I'm not against drop off parties at all, BUT, I think some posters who agree with the OP about the fact it's fine for kids to be dropped off, those posters likely don't realise that there'll be NO other adults at all in the house lending a helping hand, just in case.

All that is needed really is one other person to help out the OP with the kids, and no one who has disagreed with the OP has said that every single parent should stay.

The OP has said that she could call for help if necessary, but that's ridiculous. There needs to be someone else present to deal with any potential issues immediately.

The thing is, however, this is complete conjecture. You can't summon up reasons that might be bothering Jemima's mother with no evidence that this is what's bothering her (well, you can, but they have no basis). If this was bothering Jemima's mother then she would have/can say this to the OP – but she hasn't.

Child to adult ratios are not a requirement anywhere but a professional childcare setting, so insisting that the OP take heed of this is unreasonable to expect. And that is added to the fact that you have no evidence it bother's Jemima's mum.

We can assume YOU are bothered by it, but that's completely irrelevant to anything.

fliptopbin · 18/06/2024 10:24

This whole thread was just a massive culture clash. You have to remember that the UK is very densely populated particularly in the SE, and the weather is crap.Very few British homes are big enough to host 15 kids in winter, and you can't guarantee to even be able to go outside in summer. (It was 13 degrees on Saturday here).
Therefore most people hire a hall for parties, and that means that it almost becomes a social for the parents too. Or at least that was the case when my DC were young. Put in that context, the replies probably make a bit more sense.

RockyRogue1001 · 18/06/2024 10:20

Didn't see the end of the last thread, but will catch up to enjoy the madness.

Just wanted to say, despite being in the UK, and despite the fact I didn't leave DD at parties at 6 unless we knew the families incredibly well (this is in the past, my DD is adult now), I think you're fabulous @Endoftheroad12345
I totally get you on this.

Good luck with your party, and go you!

LOVE the suggestion above from @CustardCream0472 that the new fairy is Jemima's mum. Hilarious!!!!

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