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DD6’s party, Jemima’s mother and the clownfairy part 2

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Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 03:44

Hi all

After my last post here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

I thought some of you might be interested in an update.

The clown/fairy I had booked ghosted me when I tried to confirm!!!! so for a moment there I was panicking about having no entertainer and felt that the mumsnet curse of hoping that DD had a shitty party would come true!!!!! luckily though, I have found and booked a back up fairy. So that mitigates the clown phobia risk

9 guests have RSVPed if a total of 12 invites (I had guessed 15), 3 TBC. Of the 12, I know 6 mothers (most of them just to say hi to at school). 3 who have RSVPed I couldn’t pick out of a line up. So far no other parents have asked to stay. Or indeed asked for any other details (or an “plan”)about the party.

Forecast is for pissing rain on Sunday.

The last few pages of the thread took a weird turn while I was asleep and started talking about swimming parties and lifeguards. We do actually have a pool … (I know I sound like I’m trolling at this point.) There will not be a lifeguard on duty, but as it’s about 12 degrees here so I don’t think anyone will be getting in the unheated pool.

(Am WFH today because DS has a high fever and power-chucked in the hallway last night while I was making cupcakes at 10pm for the sodding school fundraiser. As DS coughed in my face while he spreadeagled across my bed, I did think wistfully of one poster on the last thread who thought I was probably a cashed up career woman who barely saw her kids.)

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I’m fully prepared to be told I’m BU but I’m not changing my mind just upfront 😂 (I know that can be annoying when responding to AIBU posts). DD6’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

OP posts:
LeonoraFlorence · 18/06/2024 12:04

I find it strange really as in my experience (Scotland) the children are mainly dropped and left from P1 onwards! The odd parent would stay to help but mainly they go and enjoy their child free hours! In nursery parents would always stay but after that, it would be unusual.

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 12:04

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:58

"I think people are getting very stressed on both sides."

The OP is cool, calm and collected in comparison to some of the posters on here.

I am very much not stressed. Leaving an abusive fuckknuckle of a husband is stressful. Fighting to keep your kids in your family home is stressful.

Organising a fairy party for 6 year olds and getting your adult child ratios criticised by health and safety inspectors on the internet is not stressful.

The piñata idea sounds potentially highly stressful though so thank you @OchonAgusOchonOh I will be axing that idea and going with pin the tail on the unicorn instead. Potential for kids getting jabbed with pins though? What would the risk register say?

OP posts:
RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 12:03

I think most people could see a middle ground here.

The OP overreacted to a few reasonable messages and was quite rude to the mother and some posters here. She could be more accepting that some kids might need a bit more support and generally be a bit nicer to keep the peace. She seems to quite enjoy antagonising people and that is getting some peoples backs up hence the thread is carrying on.

On the other hand she is entitled to do what she wants in her own home. I think she will be very capable of looking after 9 kids on her own and I am sure her daughter will have a lovely party. She is obviously a good mother to her kids and at the end of the day that's the most important thing here.

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:58

"I think people are getting very stressed on both sides."

The OP is cool, calm and collected in comparison to some of the posters on here.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 11:57

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 11:34

Ok so this is a great question and I actually
spent a bit of time doing DD on the party fairy offering in Auckland (bit of legal lingo there for ya)

So we have previously had Ariel and another year Ana and Elsa and they show up and give the birthday girl a crown and wave their wands and then do face painting but it is actually a clusterfuck bc they can only paint one face at a time, the other kids get bored and run riot and you can’t run any other games at the same time bc little Sienna or Arabella will miss out bc they are being painted up as a lion or a unicorn or whatever.

So I looked for an entertainer who does a show (like magic tricks or whatever) but DD wanted a fairy (societal gender brainwashing) but all the magicians seem to be clowns (sexist) … but I found a fairy magician!!! So the idea is that they all sit down and watch the show at 12 while I put the food on the table, then while they’re still gathered I’ll do pass the parcel and maybe a piñata (although that might be insane) and then they eat + cake at 1.30 and then they are evicted at 2pm on the dot

Please listen to the Voice of Experience here (capitals used to stress how much experience and how loud that voice is).

Do NOT, under any circumstances, do a piñata. I always had dd's parties at home. The girls in her class were lovely, polite, well-behaved girls. There had never been an issue at any of her parties until The Year of the Piñata. They turned into completely insane, vicious monsters. We did manage to avoid any trips to A&E but that involved wresting the stick off various girls at various stages and then acting as physical barriers to prevent 20 girls jumping on top of one another when it finally opened up.

And fair play for getting the fairy magician. Your experience of Ariel and Ana/Elsa was exactly what I had assumed a fairy party would be. A magician sounds much better. Shame how socialisation frequently results in girls missing out. Although I assume you outsourced the DD, what with you being a hands off, child hating career woman and all.

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:55

Didimum · 18/06/2024 11:54

Indeed. The posters are highly stressed and are simply annoyed that OP isn't stressed too.

I think people are getting very stressed on both sides.

Didimum · 18/06/2024 11:54

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:44

RosieChardonnay · Today 11:38
"I think this has gotten completely out of hand.

The OP obviously has a bad attitude and is maybe not the nicest of people.

Just let her be. She seems very stressed"

Rather it's certain posters on here who seem overly stressed concerning a 6 year olds party that has nothing to do with them. Not the Op.

Indeed. The posters are highly stressed and are simply annoyed that OP isn't stressed too.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 18/06/2024 11:54

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 11:50

It really isn’t a two thread worthy issue.
OP hosts a party
invites a kid
kids mum asks to stay
OP says no
other mum says fine ok

that should have been the end of it tbh.

I do believe many kids are way more wimpy pandered to and clingy than in the past and agree with @Lillieloola that this wasn’t as much of an issue years ago. But that is a post for another day.

Edited

Then close the thread and don't come back to it? I don't think you get to police what is or isn't a two thread issue!

Deadpretty · 18/06/2024 11:53

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:56

Thanks for the interest, but I'm not trying to 'achieve' anything. I'm entitled to join in on a public forum, not that I need to explain myself to you.

Maybe you could answer, seeing as you're obviously interested in my posts, would YOU think it's acceptable to look after 15 5/6 year olds, completely alone, at a party for 3 hours?

Is this a 'batshit' question to you?

But it isn’t 15, it is 12 at the most (if everyone turns up) and yes, many of us do think it is acceptable regardless if you are in NZ or the UK.

Not letting kids develop their own sense of independence at appropriate times and telling them to see tigers in trees where there are none does not help with resilience as they grow up IMO.

Didimum · 18/06/2024 11:52

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 11:39

15 children actually (including hers) , maybe you should've read the previous thread.

Um ....

'9 guests have RSVPed of a total of 12 invites'

Perhaps keep your knowledge up to date if you are going to continue to bash OP for no other reason other than you're personal child-adult comfort ratios.

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 11:50

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:20

That's great for you but the lack of acceptance that not all kids are like this is the problem here.
Some kids need a bit more support. The other mum asked a couple of fairly basic polite questions and the OP has gotten so riled up about it and started two threads about it. Seems pretty ridiculous.

It really isn’t a two thread worthy issue.
OP hosts a party
invites a kid
kids mum asks to stay
OP says no
other mum says fine ok

that should have been the end of it tbh.

I do believe many kids are way more wimpy pandered to and clingy than in the past and agree with @Lillieloola that this wasn’t as much of an issue years ago. But that is a post for another day.

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 11:47

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:46

The OP set up the thread and asked for opinions. She has now set up a second one!!

I’m right here you know

OP posts:
RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:46

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:44

RosieChardonnay · Today 11:38
"I think this has gotten completely out of hand.

The OP obviously has a bad attitude and is maybe not the nicest of people.

Just let her be. She seems very stressed"

Rather it's certain posters on here who seem overly stressed concerning a 6 year olds party that has nothing to do with them. Not the Op.

The OP set up the thread and asked for opinions. She has now set up a second one!!

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:44

RosieChardonnay · Today 11:38
"I think this has gotten completely out of hand.

The OP obviously has a bad attitude and is maybe not the nicest of people.

Just let her be. She seems very stressed"

Rather it's certain posters on here who seem overly stressed concerning a 6 year olds party that has nothing to do with them. Not the Op.

ButtonsB · 18/06/2024 11:39

What a prick.
But remember you got your children away from sharing a home with him.
You should be so so proud of yourself.
As they grow they will thrive because of your bravery.
Pricks like him will likely have expectations of contact in later years, but children like yours often provide great karma.
I hope you still keep notes for the day they say No to seeing him and you will have dates and times to lend weight to their decision.
You are a really great woman and mother👏💪.

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 11:39

Didimum · 18/06/2024 11:23

But that's not the question posed, it's OP's query or concern, so why on earth should it be yours? She has 9 children attending – this is quite simply not an issue whatsoever.

15 children actually (including hers) , maybe you should've read the previous thread.

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:38

I think this has gotten completely out of hand.

The OP obviously has a bad attitude and is maybe not the nicest of people.

Just let her be. She seems very stressed.

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 11:37

marmarmalade · 18/06/2024 10:11

Adore you OP @Endoftheroad12345 . My oldest is 30yo and youngest is 12yo . I didn'tt do baby parties, but did every other year from starting school. I met the parents at the door and they said "so pick up at 2?" and I said yes great. "come on in Hamish". Had them all ready at 2pm with lolly bags in hand. If someone had asked to stay I would have thought they were super weird. Nobody did. With 4 kids I can guarantee that staying at parties is very odd indeed. I rarely set foot in the door.
( One exception , a couple hired out an entire Italian restaurant and invited all the parents and supplied copious wine foolish mistake but a great party).

Oh and OP@Endoftheroad12345 I agree with you in every way and did love the pegging and internet jokes but "Yeah nah" is Australian. No copying please. 😉

this is cultural appropriation!!

OP posts:
Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 11:36

SheerLucks · 18/06/2024 11:34

I agree with @RosieChardonnay - it was the tone of your opening post OP that felt unkind.

You're clearly very stressed though currently and the build up to birthday parties can really stretch people.

”Be kind” is usually code for telling women to STFU

Anyone who lived through the Dark Times (4 moth Auckland hard lockdown 2021) never wants to hear that again

OP posts:
Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 11:34

OchonAgusOchonOh · 18/06/2024 10:48

I have a Very Important Question that has not been addressed in this or the previous thread.

What on earth does a party fairy do? Obviously a clown is going to do clown type things but other than frolicking around the place, waving her wand and smiling, how will the fairy entertain?

Ok so this is a great question and I actually
spent a bit of time doing DD on the party fairy offering in Auckland (bit of legal lingo there for ya)

So we have previously had Ariel and another year Ana and Elsa and they show up and give the birthday girl a crown and wave their wands and then do face painting but it is actually a clusterfuck bc they can only paint one face at a time, the other kids get bored and run riot and you can’t run any other games at the same time bc little Sienna or Arabella will miss out bc they are being painted up as a lion or a unicorn or whatever.

So I looked for an entertainer who does a show (like magic tricks or whatever) but DD wanted a fairy (societal gender brainwashing) but all the magicians seem to be clowns (sexist) … but I found a fairy magician!!! So the idea is that they all sit down and watch the show at 12 while I put the food on the table, then while they’re still gathered I’ll do pass the parcel and maybe a piñata (although that might be insane) and then they eat + cake at 1.30 and then they are evicted at 2pm on the dot

OP posts:
SheerLucks · 18/06/2024 11:34

I agree with @RosieChardonnay - it was the tone of your opening post OP that felt unkind.

You're clearly very stressed though currently and the build up to birthday parties can really stretch people.

VanGoSunflowers · 18/06/2024 11:30

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:40

I'm not going on about Jemima's mum here though am I.

It doesn't matter that it's not a requirement, it's a matter of having a degree of common sense not to leave all those kids with just one adult.

You are way too invested in the details of 6yo birthday parties of our antipodean friends

Didimum · 18/06/2024 11:23

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:40

I'm not going on about Jemima's mum here though am I.

It doesn't matter that it's not a requirement, it's a matter of having a degree of common sense not to leave all those kids with just one adult.

But that's not the question posed, it's OP's query or concern, so why on earth should it be yours? She has 9 children attending – this is quite simply not an issue whatsoever.

Lillieloola · 18/06/2024 11:20

I am in UK and hosted many parties when my three were little. Can only ever remember one parent staying at one party. It was so unusual that now ,25 years later I can remember her name,what dress the child was wearing etc .
So no it was not common back in the day and I would have hated having all the parents there. Children so much better behaved when parents not present !
OP it was your tone and attitude towards Jemima Mother that I found quite disrespectful. Also I always had a couple of other adults available just to give me a hand with food etc not because there would be a full blown emergency as the drama lamas were saying in previous thread .

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 11:20

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 09:39

I agree with this. My son has an incredibly active social life - between his pals at school, football and the neighbours, someone always seems to have a birthday - I don't attend. And he wouldn't want me to (would probably cramp his style).

That's great for you but the lack of acceptance that not all kids are like this is the problem here.
Some kids need a bit more support. The other mum asked a couple of fairly basic polite questions and the OP has gotten so riled up about it and started two threads about it. Seems pretty ridiculous.

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