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DD6’s party, Jemima’s mother and the clownfairy part 2

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Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 03:44

Hi all

After my last post here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

I thought some of you might be interested in an update.

The clown/fairy I had booked ghosted me when I tried to confirm!!!! so for a moment there I was panicking about having no entertainer and felt that the mumsnet curse of hoping that DD had a shitty party would come true!!!!! luckily though, I have found and booked a back up fairy. So that mitigates the clown phobia risk

9 guests have RSVPed if a total of 12 invites (I had guessed 15), 3 TBC. Of the 12, I know 6 mothers (most of them just to say hi to at school). 3 who have RSVPed I couldn’t pick out of a line up. So far no other parents have asked to stay. Or indeed asked for any other details (or an “plan”)about the party.

Forecast is for pissing rain on Sunday.

The last few pages of the thread took a weird turn while I was asleep and started talking about swimming parties and lifeguards. We do actually have a pool … (I know I sound like I’m trolling at this point.) There will not be a lifeguard on duty, but as it’s about 12 degrees here so I don’t think anyone will be getting in the unheated pool.

(Am WFH today because DS has a high fever and power-chucked in the hallway last night while I was making cupcakes at 10pm for the sodding school fundraiser. As DS coughed in my face while he spreadeagled across my bed, I did think wistfully of one poster on the last thread who thought I was probably a cashed up career woman who barely saw her kids.)

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I’m fully prepared to be told I’m BU but I’m not changing my mind just upfront 😂 (I know that can be annoying when responding to AIBU posts). DD6’...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5097890-to-tell-a-mum-of-a-guest-that-she-cant-stay-at-dd6s-birthday-party?page=1

OP posts:
Baklavamama · 18/06/2024 15:02

OP as a kiwi living in London I’ve been chuckling as people’s responses to your thread. It really highlights the cultural differences…(and house size difference. And that having a pool is pretty normal). Don’t mention that we all go barefoot in summer and that the kids often take their shoes off at school to play - if you’re in Auckland or further north that is. Not quite sure where the shoes off to play outside dividing line is any more!

Didimum · 18/06/2024 15:01

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 15:00

Great, you can see it too 🤗

She said she doesn't seem stressed at all!

I agree she doesn't seem stressed. I am NOT a psychologist.

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 15:00

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:57

I am a psychiatrist ;-)

Great, you can see it too 🤗

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:57

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 14:43

Its very clear she is stressed. Her stress shows in her overreaction a few simple questions from a parent about a birthday party. Also in not being able to tolerate another parent being present during the party. It shows in how she talks of her ex husband and even her mother. Her mocking of other posters seems to be her way of dealing with criticism. She seems to be under a lot of stress and probably does not even recognise it herself.

I am psychologist BTW!

I am a psychiatrist ;-)

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 14:43

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:35

I know. I don’t see her as remotely stressed. Just gently mocking the situation and even herself. She isn’t taking it too seriously. She clearly posted out of amusement and some bewilderment. Not out of a sense of panic and angst. Other posters have taken on that role!

Its very clear she is stressed. Her stress shows in her overreaction a few simple questions from a parent about a birthday party. Also in not being able to tolerate another parent being present during the party. It shows in how she talks of her ex husband and even her mother. Her mocking of other posters seems to be her way of dealing with criticism. She seems to be under a lot of stress and probably does not even recognise it herself.

I am psychologist BTW!

willWillSmithsmith · 18/06/2024 14:40

All I can say is, if OP was my defence lawyer I’d be very happy, if she was prosecuting I’d be quaking in my boots. 😁

Didimum · 18/06/2024 14:36

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 12:57

And it's none of your concern if I post on here is it?
It's my business whether or not I reply to people, you've not got the monopoly on who can comment, so if you don't expect me to reply to posters like yourself, then why not refrain from being goady?

Christ, this is embarrassing now. No one cares.

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:35

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2024 11:58

"I think people are getting very stressed on both sides."

The OP is cool, calm and collected in comparison to some of the posters on here.

I know. I don’t see her as remotely stressed. Just gently mocking the situation and even herself. She isn’t taking it too seriously. She clearly posted out of amusement and some bewilderment. Not out of a sense of panic and angst. Other posters have taken on that role!

flossie232 · 18/06/2024 14:33

@Daisy1457 you sound way meaner than the op. And at least she's funny with it.

EmeraldsAreForever · 18/06/2024 14:32

Perhaps the fairy could be Daisy wearing an Elsa costume?

I'll get my coat.

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:31

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 10:09

I know exactly who you were implying OP. I meant others, meaning apart from yourself. Never mind, there's no point in complicating things for you.

You do have a lot of, shall I say, confidence in your self OP, to be able to take the piss as you do. Just a little friendly advice, look at all the responses on your previous thread.
You started an AIBU, which basically means you're asking for people's opinions (in case you're not aware), but then tried to tear down posters (like myself) who didn't agree with you.
You came across as if you think you're superior (I'm a lawyer don't you know, which incidentally I imagine no one actually gives AF about, and a lawyer who not only can't have a reasonable debate, but can't even organise a child's party in time).

You been extremely aggressive to many posters and the worst of it all, you were nasty about a Mum who was purely enquiring about what the plan of action was regarding the party. Your reaction to her was completely over the top, unnecessary and cruel, especially as you thought of her as 'weird', amongst so many other negative comments about her.

You came across as paranoid too, and yet you have the audacity to mock me (amongst others), .... Wow, just wow .....

I think you come across as way more ‘aggressive’ and unpleasant than the OP. It’s all subjective I guess.

OneWorldly4 · 18/06/2024 14:29

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 13:12

For the record I've also raised my kids as a single mum (not that it's really relevant), and can quite easily look after a number of kids alone, but there's a massive difference to looking after around 15 of them when they're so young.

I wouldn't dream of doing that alone, as yes, things could well be fine, but the more kids there is, the more potential for something to go wrong, that's obvious.
Each to their own I guess.

I don't know where you got the lifeguard but from, but for reference, I wasn't the poster who mentioned that, although you likely know that.

Is it your day off work today Daisy?

You're like a dog with a bone. Let.It.Go

NotFunnyTilly · 18/06/2024 14:27

I used to think I was a neurotic mum. Till I read threads like your last one and realised that there is a whole world of more OTT parents out there. It made me feel chilled and laid back. And that never usually happens!

Though my kids had regular sleepovers with school friends from age 7. And that’s a crime for some on MN.

EmeraldsAreForever · 18/06/2024 14:20

OP you've well fucked up here. The first rule of Fight Club is not to talk about it, not only have you broken that, you've actually set up a second thread to talk about it.

Well anyway, thank fuck your Project Mayhem doesn't involve a clown. This was more of a potential danger than any number of children with one adult Grin

Itisjustmyopinion · 18/06/2024 14:20

OP has been refreshing rather than rude. Good to see her respond back to the rude posters in an entertaining way. You don’t see enough of that on here (although a lot of us probably think it, or discuss it on the MN Tattle page)

If this is representative of NZ then I want to see the NZ version of MN as it’s probably a lot better than this one. Between this and the you can’t possibly ask kids to wake up early to go on a day trip thread this place is bonkers today

OP do you get Motherland in NZ? Maybe on Netflix? It is the drama comedy version of MN in some places and even has an episode about drop off parties in series 1

Didsomebodysaysnacks · 18/06/2024 13:50

We also fully expect to stay for kids parties. Not to supervise, we've just got into a habit of providing wine.

I hope you've updated the risk assessment with aquatic pony allergy fairies and got the kids to sign a risk waiver.

HobnobbingAboutHobnobs · 18/06/2024 13:45

OP - thank you for all the giggles! I've had a really shit morning, hut then I read your threads and laughed out loud. I think your replies to some of the more... unexpected tangents have been fantastic, and as someone else with a fuck-knuckle (new favourite insult 😂) of an ex, well done for getting shot of him.

And, it goes without saying, I'm in awe of your lawyerly brilliance! 😂 🤣

Denialisagirlsbestfriend · 18/06/2024 13:24

The last thread has been a delight to read…… I especially loved the pegging joke that went over so many heads!

@Endoftheroad12345 have you ever considered a career in law? Or perhaps the Hells Angels have an opening after all? I’m sure you’d have no issue just strapping the kids to the side of a Harley as you fly across country. Mouthy be better to leave them at home with a safety inspector as a babysitter instead? Just make sure the lifeguards on duty that day!

RosieChardonnay · 18/06/2024 13:14

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 13:00

This did make me giggle (not the idea of you in pain, just the wonderfully casual way you describe it)
Obviously this is the opposite end of the scale and injured/sick kids should get medical treatment hahaha but it is true that so many are wimpy, mollycoddled, pandered to, clingy, cry at the drop of a hat and over sensitive these days. Can't go to a party/Brownies/Sunday school etc without clinging to mum - it just didn't happen years ago. It's a bit pathetic and I am glad mine aren't like that. Teachers have their work cut out...

Edited

There has actually been a lot of research to show the more supported a child feels as a child the more independent they become as an adult.
I think a balance needs to be found here so the child grows up to be independent and resilient. Some kids are clingier by nature.

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 13:12

Endoftheroad12345 · 18/06/2024 12:31

Well the ones that know me know I’m a single mother with no help and have frequently been happy to leave their kids with me … in summer the children are even in the pool with no lifeguard on duty

For the record I've also raised my kids as a single mum (not that it's really relevant), and can quite easily look after a number of kids alone, but there's a massive difference to looking after around 15 of them when they're so young.

I wouldn't dream of doing that alone, as yes, things could well be fine, but the more kids there is, the more potential for something to go wrong, that's obvious.
Each to their own I guess.

I don't know where you got the lifeguard but from, but for reference, I wasn't the poster who mentioned that, although you likely know that.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 18/06/2024 13:03

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 13:00

This did make me giggle (not the idea of you in pain, just the wonderfully casual way you describe it)
Obviously this is the opposite end of the scale and injured/sick kids should get medical treatment hahaha but it is true that so many are wimpy, mollycoddled, pandered to, clingy, cry at the drop of a hat and over sensitive these days. Can't go to a party/Brownies/Sunday school etc without clinging to mum - it just didn't happen years ago. It's a bit pathetic and I am glad mine aren't like that. Teachers have their work cut out...

Edited

I'm not far off 40 and there were definitely children I knew who struggled to go to brownies without their mum.

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 18/06/2024 13:02

I would also note that one additional factor is that a lot of people are assuming you'd drop off by car: around us for most parties people would be on foot or public transport (occasionally there is a party at a venue you can only drive to, and then there are more children who get a lift and go with someone else's parent). That makes dropping off and going back 90 minutes later much less appealing, but I guess that's a specifically urban thing.

HcbSS · 18/06/2024 13:00

Meetingofminds · 18/06/2024 12:32

I hobbled around with a fractured ankle and dislocated shoulder for 3 weeks, still lived to tell the tale. Equally we were playing outside at 4/5 completely unsupervised so I think the level of hysteria around kids these days is truly insane and giving our kids anxiety and mh problems!

This did make me giggle (not the idea of you in pain, just the wonderfully casual way you describe it)
Obviously this is the opposite end of the scale and injured/sick kids should get medical treatment hahaha but it is true that so many are wimpy, mollycoddled, pandered to, clingy, cry at the drop of a hat and over sensitive these days. Can't go to a party/Brownies/Sunday school etc without clinging to mum - it just didn't happen years ago. It's a bit pathetic and I am glad mine aren't like that. Teachers have their work cut out...

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 18/06/2024 12:58

KreedKafer · 18/06/2024 12:36

I can't figure out whether this is a recent thing, or a social class thing, because when I was a kid (in the UK) it was literally unheard of for a kids' party to be anything other than a drop-and-run, from about three years old onwards. If any parent had expected to stay for a child's party, everyone would have thought they were total weirdos.

I think it's a recent thing - I would say I sit pretty similarly to where I grew up in terms of social class (and live in the same area) and I think I would have been dropped off by 5, but as I posted upthread no one does it around me now and the kids are all 6 - some of them not that far off 7. I wouldn't mind dropping off, and think DS would be fine, but it would be really outside the social norm here. They'll be moving from year 1 to 2 soon, I don't know if that might be the point at which it changes?

Daisy1457 · 18/06/2024 12:57

Didimum · 18/06/2024 12:49

If it's not a hangup then why are you so incessant that everyone cares about it by posting about it repeatedly? You very clearly think it should be A Big Deal.

You have no evidence that the parents care or care to ask (and if they care to ask then they can do). It is not the subject of the thread or the OP's query. It has nothing to do with anything and is none of your concern.

And it's none of your concern if I post on here is it?
It's my business whether or not I reply to people, you've not got the monopoly on who can comment, so if you don't expect me to reply to posters like yourself, then why not refrain from being goady?