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Pin18 · 30/05/2024 11:42

Hello

Just looking for some non bias advice. I know I am a very sensitive person, I suffer with a lot of medical trauma, I have chronic illnesses etc and medicated for anxiety so just need either reassurance or to be told to get over it!

I have well had 2 very close friends from school, one from nursery who i am still friends with. I was probably closer to the friend that has cut me off since last year, she is my sons godmother, her sons were like nephews to me, I looked after them a lot, was always at her house to help out a her husband works really awkward shifts. Anyways i thought we had a great friendship, never fell out , honest etc and she got me through a hard time when i was struggling to conceive and our other friend had fell pregnant surprisingly and i got her through a lot of hard times aswell. I use to always say id be devastated if we fell out and to be honest i was.

So one thing - me and this now ex friend where born beside each other - she is one day older. Anyways each year i havent bothered much about my birthday - she likes to celebrate hers and her little boys is also around same time so we prioritised him - went to all his bday even on my own actual birthday. So last year she was feeling really down as she hadnt be in contact with her mum (toxic relationship) so i suggested we throw a joint party in my house for her and me. Fab all sorted. Until she started speaking to her mum again and i got a text basically changed plans i an join her party but it will be at hr house now and her mum and sis will organise. I did feel a bit miffed , but decided to let her have her night and id just celebrate my birthday separate - meal out with my husband and kids. Myself and other friend were invited to party and we seen in the group texts it was going to be mostly family and one of her friends i dont know well. My friend text me saying she didnt want to go and we were the only non family members and it would be awkward etc, i felt that same and I thought she would understand i was wanting to celebrate my own birthday with my family. So my other friend said she couldnt get childcare because her husband would be out. Anyways i start getting ignored , she cancels on me twice last minute which i asked her about and then radio silence for 3 weeks. Finally she answered me saying i could celebrate my birthday another night and i should of changed plans and attented her birthday etc. She made excuses she was busy and had been upset over her late aunts birthday - although she had been out at shops, out for meals , cocktails etc. I apologised and said i didnt mean to cause upset and i was really sorry but i didnt think she would mind. She cut me off, she disinvited my kids to her kids birthdays , missed her godsons 1st birthday etc even when i send her kids bday presents. I was gutted.

Moving on to now its been 8 months and my other friend who basically lied about childcare to an extent, didnt go to the party and actually had popped into my house on the same night - all fine. (other friend doesnt know this) but my friend has never stuck up for me and said well we both done that whereas i had a genuine its also my bday weekend reason. we are 34 btw so to me this is absolute ridiculous and childs play. I seen a picture that they were out the other day and both their sons wearing my sons clothes i handed down to them. It broke me - i feel really let down. I was a good friend to both, my other friend also lied to me for 5 months about her pregnancy and wasnt nice when i was TTC but i never fell out with her at all yet this is all happened to me over a daft party.

Any advice?

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itsmylife7 · 30/05/2024 16:15

Have you always been the ' yes I can help you' friend ?

The one time you actually say NO to her she cuts you off ?

You need to work on not being a pushover OP....friendships are meant to be a two way thing.

Yes ive always been that friend as i suppose im scared of losing friendships but yeah your right i need to just let go, i think im just gutted at the thought of her being my sons godmother , i miss her boys so much they were genuinely like my nephews but your right

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itsmylife7 · 30/05/2024 16:15

Have you always been the ' yes I can help you' friend ?

The one time you actually say NO to her she cuts you off ?

You need to work on not being a pushover OP....friendships are meant to be a two way thing.

bloodyeffinnora · 30/05/2024 16:04

so she's not your friend unless everything goes her way? ,nope I'd let this friendship go, seems very one sided.

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 15:50

I am 100% a people pleaser as I hate people being angry or upset at me. I am a genuine person too and I have friendships thats lasted years and years due to mutual respect and honesty. Being there for each other etc.

Yeah i agree about resentment thing as she had let me down a few times weeks prior , cancelling last min, cancelling for other friends etc. so i think this was the final straw and i was like nah im doing my own thing now but i didnt expect an argument like that , i thought we were 34 and could speak to each other like adults about what annoyed us, get over it but like i said before i hadnt ever had a argument with her so didnt know how she would react. I like to just have the argument sort things and move on, she likes to stew over things.

It was all via text as she wouldn't see me or answer my phone calls after I said i was going to do my own thing. I could tell she was angry , like i said i just agreed and said she should have her party, i did advise her that i didnt want to change plans but there wasn't much of a comeback just acceptance she was now getting her own party as i honestly felt i would look like a right idiot if i started a blazing row over it

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SuchiRolls · 30/05/2024 15:29

As upsetting as it is to you, I’d think if it were me, I’d think, they’ve shown their arses. They are focused on only them. You’ve sacrificed how you feel by not communicating that to your ex friend, that was your choice. She’s taken your friendship for granted and it seems to me you view the friendship very differently. Either way they’re both welcome to one another and at least now you can move on and know you can’t trust either of them ever again. Move on now and forge new friendships, because these people aren’t it.

SabbaticalinMogadishu · 30/05/2024 15:28

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 14:34

As i said i know its all very immature and petty so really dont need to be told that.

I have tried to resolve it, i dont know what i exactly done to be petty apart from just putting myself 1st on my birthday for the first time in years and not being in a party setting i would feel uncomfortable.

I still gave her a card , she ignored mine completely the next day.

I contacted her and apologised a few times and was treated like shit when i did.

The thing with the clothes was more like well ive been a good friend, handed down clothes, been there for them as mums, helped out etc but this is what i get .

This post has shown me we are all very different thinkers, but i appreciate those who have given me constructive advice and feedback and not just been nasty.

Thankyou

Honestly, some of your posts sound as if you have the kind of longterm resentment that arises from feeling unappreciated, which suggests issues with the friendship all along, not justover this party. This is something that often happens with people-pleasing behaviour, and some of your comments suggest that -- the comment about 'putting yourself first for once on my birthday' and the bits about 'being a good friend' being equated to 'being there for them as mums' and passing on outgrown clothes.

It sounds to me as if you (plural) don't communicate well, and far too much seems to have been handled via text. If you weren't happy with the changed party plans, you should have said so, over the phone or in person. It's not clear to me the process by which the changed plans were communicated and negotiated, but presumably you had the option of saying 'No, that doesn't work for me. I'd prefer we stuck to our original plan of having a joint party for both at my house. Does that work for you?'

CountingCrones · 30/05/2024 15:15

It sounds like a spat in a high school cafeteria - she said, so I said, then she said, so the other one said, so we didn't go to her party...

OP, don't get involved in such petty nonsense. Be friends or don't. Be honest about what you want and how you feel. See people you enjoy being with, don't spend time with people you think you need to apologise to all the time.

Life doesn't need to involve all this stuff.

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 15:06

@Hugosmaid haha dont tempt me

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Hugosmaid · 30/05/2024 14:48

Oh and I’d send the screen shots of your other mate lying about child care - because I can be petty.

Hugosmaid · 30/05/2024 14:43

Actually it’s not immature and petty - it’s hurtful.

I’ve had a bumpy time with my best friend ( since we were 9, I’m 45 now) over the past year or so. Over a bloody spa day. I’ve supported her through her marriage with her shit husband for the past 20 years.

Things are just not the same now. I suppose people change or were not that invested when they had to give something back.

Regarding the other mate who lied - swerve her. It’s shit but there is nothing you can do - they have both shown their true colours

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 14:34

As i said i know its all very immature and petty so really dont need to be told that.

I have tried to resolve it, i dont know what i exactly done to be petty apart from just putting myself 1st on my birthday for the first time in years and not being in a party setting i would feel uncomfortable.

I still gave her a card , she ignored mine completely the next day.

I contacted her and apologised a few times and was treated like shit when i did.

The thing with the clothes was more like well ive been a good friend, handed down clothes, been there for them as mums, helped out etc but this is what i get .

This post has shown me we are all very different thinkers, but i appreciate those who have given me constructive advice and feedback and not just been nasty.

Thankyou

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ButWhatAboutTheBees · 30/05/2024 14:12

And why is this 3rd friend stirring things by showing you photos?

Not that it matters if they're wearing clothes you passed down. They probably don't even remember when it came from

You're all being pretty petty tbh

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 13:27

she changed the plans , my other friend text me saying she didn't want to go, i thought to myself for once I could celebrate my birthday the way i wanted to and surely a 34 year old friend who I've been good too would understand that as i was attending her sons party on the Sunday of the same weekend. I never thought this would happen.

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Graciiee · 30/05/2024 13:23

So when she changed her plan, why didn't you just say straight away ok great you do that and I'll still have my party as planned as I've already got my family and friends coming? That's not what you said above, above you said you'd celebrate separately with a meal out with your husband and kids. So you still had your planned party?

PossumintheHouse · 30/05/2024 13:17

I honestly thought you were going to all be in your very early 20s after reading the first post, it's ridiculously juvenile behaviour. From all three of you, really, but most so your ex-friend. She sounds very self-absorbed and immature to be getting so het up about a bloody birthday party.
However, you've done what you can to try to resolve the situation. If anything, you've over-apologised.
Your other friend shouldn't have told a porky to get out of attending, and I can see why you'd view the outcome as unfair, but just let them get on with it. Ex-friend is bound to get her knickers in a twist about something else before long anyway.
It's time to grieve this friendship and let go, focus on your other, better friends.

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 13:13

@Graciiee also im picking my family , and friends who had already put time aside that weekend for my birthday, who arent her friends. and im sorry but to fall out with me and forget all the events if went too - find that really unfair.

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Pin18 · 30/05/2024 13:07

@Graciiee okay but its ok for my friend to rely on me and let me plan a party for her sake , but yes both our birthdays but turn around and say nah i want my own party now and dont care about you :) ?

Not wanting them to fall out, just some loyalty and for her to grow up.

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Graciiee · 30/05/2024 12:45

From your friends point of view, you have basically said nah I'm not coming even though we were going to celebrate together I don't want to now and I'm gonna make some other plans with other friends and family. The second friend has said no childcare so no one can challenge that. But your reason is basically telling her you're picking someone else if you see what I mean.

And the photos of them now out together, I dont see how you can be hurt by that as their friendship is separate to yours, and they didn't fall out.

minou123 · 30/05/2024 12:34

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 12:12

Thankyou @minou123 yes it does.

I was devastated - i sent her a couple of texts apologising , sent her kids birthday gifts etc. We seen each other weekly before this so still very close to nothing. She blocked me on all social media and her phone number after i text apologising. She simply replied "No" when i asked to sort things.

I just feel really let down and that they are acting like school kids. The "friend" who she has kept in contact with - she said wasnt even her friend and thought she was "boring". I think your right for my MH i need to close the door here.

Ah, so your ex friend has made up her mind to no longer be your friend.

That's really hard. I completely understand why you are devastated.
From what you say, you had a very long very caring friendship, supporting each other through difficult times.
I completely get it

Thing is, you now have to accept that she doesn't want to be friends with you anymore. As daft as her reason is, you have to accept this.

She's moved on, and as as wankery as this is going to sound, you need to grieve your friendship and move on as well.

As for the mutual friend - well, she sounds incredibly two-faced. If they want to continue being friends, that's their problem. Stay out of it.

I agree with @bloodyeffinnora . Cut contact, cut off SM, even if other friends try to show you pictures, ask them not to do this.

Close the door to this chapter of your life and move on to better friends.

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 12:19

Thanks @bloodyeffinnora yes I think your right!

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bloodyeffinnora · 30/05/2024 12:17

I would back off from both of them and leave them to it, friend B sounds like she was jealous of your and friend A's friendship and is now pleased you've been pushed out and actively encouraged you and friend A to fall out
I would cut contact with them both and stop looking at any of their SM and get on with my own life and other friends.

Pin18 · 30/05/2024 12:15

I think you are not understanding me at all @Spirallingdownwards , i had done so much for this friend, my first time saying No thanks il do my thing. She blocked me on social media and when i text asking to sort things i got a "No" . Disinviting 5 year and 1 year old to her sons parties? i dont think that my kids deserve that.

I think my other friend could be a bit more loyal and be honest with her and just say hey not really fair cos i didnt go either and this is a bit daft , not asking for a full blown argument. Yes she was but her mum and grans etc werent , i hardly knew them as she had a bad relationship with her mum.

The clothes thing was more like oh so not good enough to be your friend but still use the clothes i kindly gave you?

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Pin18 · 30/05/2024 12:12

Thankyou @minou123 yes it does.

I was devastated - i sent her a couple of texts apologising , sent her kids birthday gifts etc. We seen each other weekly before this so still very close to nothing. She blocked me on all social media and her phone number after i text apologising. She simply replied "No" when i asked to sort things.

I just feel really let down and that they are acting like school kids. The "friend" who she has kept in contact with - she said wasnt even her friend and thought she was "boring". I think your right for my MH i need to close the door here.

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minou123 · 30/05/2024 12:08

In my view, i think you have 2 different issues, one with the ex-friend and one with the friend.

Ex Friend - the one with the birthday
I think she is being really silly.

As adults, we have to start to realise our birthdays, whilst important to us, may not be a priority for others.

The fact you didn't want to go to her party, for whatever reason, is no excuse for her to be nasty to you.

Also, in my experience friendships do change as we get older. Sometimes people we've been friends with since childhood just don't carry on when we become adults.

It's no one's fault, just life and priorities change.

My advice is one of 2:
..1. Tell her you're sorry you couldn't come to her party. Try to talk to her to, where you hear her point of view she hears yiur point of view and see if your friendship can move on.
Or
...2 accept that she wants to end your friendship over a birthday party. This will be sad for you, but if she is willing to let go of a supportive,close friendship over a stupid party, that's on her.

The mutual friend - the one who lied and is still friendship with ex-friend
This is a bit more difficult.

I am of the view that you should never drag in mutual friends into arguments.

To be honest, it doesn't sound like this friend has been very nice in the past, so would dropping this friendship be that much of problem?

Overall, it doesn't sound like these friendship are doing much for your mental health. Until everyone starts behaving like adults and not like high school kids arguing over daft birthday parties, it's probably best you take a step back and not get drawn into this.

Hope this helps.

Spirallingdownwards · 30/05/2024 12:08

Your other friend said she didn't want to go as it looked like just family.

You could have still gone. You say you were close enough for her to be godmother so like family. Your exfriend was upset because a along you were doing joint and suddenly you ducked out. She was upset because she thought yo.u were close. She probably felt let down by you whereas she was less bothered by the other saying she couldn't go.

They therefore haven't fallen out and why would friend blank the other one just because you 2 have.

If it does bother you that they are still friends then block the social media by all means but you can't insist one friend can't be friends with the other anymore because you aren't 5 years old anymore.