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To think Meghan should have chosen a Nigerian stylist

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LateAF · 12/05/2024 07:33

For her Nigerian tour. Whoever put the outfits together for her has no clue on culturally appropriate attire. When I was a child it was drummed into me to cover my shoulders- especially in formal settings. So far all her dresses have been strappy or shoulder less (even backless!), while all the women in the photos with her have their shoulders covered as is the norm.

Also the relentless neutrals are uninspiring in a country where colourful clothing is standard. There are many amazing Nigerian or west African designers she could have highlighted on this tour (one of the images is from Lagos fashion week).

Please this is NOT a Meghan bashing thread so take your nasty comments to the Royal Family board (hence why I didn’t post on there). I think she looks stunning and her hair and makeup have been spot on. I also like how welcoming the Nigerian community have been- and I know they will give her a pass for her outfits since she’s an outsider. Just wondering what the consensus is.

YABU- she’s a foreigner so can dress how she likes
YANBU- clothing on a “royal” tour should be culturally appropriate and tailored to that region

To think Meghan should have chosen a Nigerian stylist
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To think Meghan should have chosen a Nigerian stylist
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IamSlave · 12/05/2024 08:26

It's good she's worn exactly what she wants, it's good for society to be exposed to different things

Willyoujustbequiet · 12/05/2024 08:26

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This.

socialwannabe · 12/05/2024 08:27

LateAF · 12/05/2024 07:41

But Nigerians wouldn’t see it as cultural appropriation which is surely what matters. We would see it as a celebration of our culture. Kind of like wearing a sari to an Indian wedding or festival wear to carnival.

I agree with you that she can’t win in terms of criticism.

Bloody hell, I wouldn’t expect a white non-Indian woman to wear a sari to an Indian wedding! That would be inappropriate surely!

CocoapuffPuff · 12/05/2024 08:27

She looks like herself, wearing her own clothes. She's not a doll to be dressed up without a say. Nothing she's wearing is unusual for her. I dunno how I feel about the whole "dress just like we tell you" stuff. If so, we'd be banning lots of significant to other cultures clothing items here in the uk, wouldn't we?
Tolerance and acceptance go both ways.

DinnaeFashYersel · 12/05/2024 08:28

Celebrity in self promotion tour is interested in clicks and likes and $$$$$

Her market is the USA not Nigerian so it doesn't matter if the locals are offended.

CatHerderSupreme · 12/05/2024 08:29

It isn’t an official tour though - they are not working royals.

For Meghan it is a holiday/husband’s business trip situation. Would you hire a stylist for a holiday?

Kellykukoo · 12/05/2024 08:31

YANBU I saw the backless dress and was disappointed that she had chosen to wear such a revealing dress in a conservative country that's also known to have a very large Muslim population. A bit of research would have made her aware of the more conservative dress norms in Nigerian society. She might not be representing the Royal family on this occasion but she could have engaged a Nigerian designer as a show of respect for the culture. Megan normally gets it right with her outfits but she missed the mark on this trip.

CharlotteRumpling · 12/05/2024 08:32

socialwannabe · 12/05/2024 08:27

Bloody hell, I wouldn’t expect a white non-Indian woman to wear a sari to an Indian wedding! That would be inappropriate surely!

Would not be in the slightest bit inappropriate. It's mostly only white people who care about cultural appropriation. Indians would love it.

charabang · 12/05/2024 08:34

I'm no style guru but I do think Meghan has form for some ill fitting or inappropriate clothing choices. I'd love to see her in more colourful clothing instead of fawn and white. I did feel that the backless dress was too much and the shoulderless white satin number looked very bridal. I think she is much better with casual clothing but struggles with formal wear.

EthnoBotanist · 12/05/2024 08:34

I defend H and M almost always. I find the criticism of them really strange and sometimes deranged. I am also one of the few people on here who actually thought Spare was an articulate and insightful book that people should actually read, rather than spouting off opinions about it that are based on a trashy headline.

BUT, I do wonder about the clothes Megan has chosen. They are really not culturally appropriate. I have been to Nigeria several times, and have lived in Saudi Arabia and Oman. Of course it’s a modern country and the weather is very hot. But most women would not wear clothes like that in those kind of settings. And yes, absolutely I would say the same of Harry if, for example, he wore a vest top.

The British like to think we are relaxed in our choice of clothes, but we are really not. A really large proportion of people still think that it is a good idea for children to wear blazers, shirts and ties to school. For many other people in the world that’s not just quaint, it’s inflexible and weird. Another example is the typical British wedding. Yes, I know that not all weddings are like this but a really large proportion of them involve women being expected to wear hats and fascinators and men to wear formal suits and ties. That is really not common in the rest of the world. Imagine turning up to a middle or upper class church wedding in the country wearing what both Harry and Meghan were wearing in Nigeria. People would think you couldn’t be bothered, or that you didn’t understand the culture. That’s what I think when I look at these photos. Much as I LIKE M and H.

The clothes they are BOTH wearing are not quite right for the context.

Pleasealexa · 12/05/2024 08:35

I can't ever get on board with a woman being forced to cover herself to be "modest", whatever that culture may be, it's always driven by misogyny. So no I couldn't get het up about this

No, it isn't always misogyny, it's about appropriate clothing to match the event. Formal events usually have a more conservative requirement to clothing for both women & MEN.

PickledMumion · 12/05/2024 08:37

OP - you're getting a hard time here! I absolutely understand what you mean, in a conversational, not an overly critical, way. Not that she shouldn't have worn the perfectly pleasant clothes she's been wearing, but that it would have been a nice celebration of local culture if she'd employed someone local who could maybe have steered her in the direction of some modern Nigerian fashion designers.

hellsbells99 · 12/05/2024 08:37

YANBU - her dresses have not been appropriate and should have covered her shoulders and upper arms.

Tyiue · 12/05/2024 08:38

OP, I get exactly where you're coming from. I am African and was quietly disappointed even though I really love Meghan, still do and will continue to love her. It's a bit similar to how I was disappointed at my sister's choice of dress at my wedding 😁.

It absolutely has nothing to do with women's rights or the heat. Just a need to dress culturally out of courtesy. But on the whole, I'll look past that and relish the fact that she and Harry are highlighting soldiers injured in war outside of Europe, America, and Australia.

dayswithaY · 12/05/2024 08:43

I think her choice of clothing is odd - backless, plunging necklines, spaghetti straps, style wise it’s all over the place.

Looks like she raided Amanda Holden’s wardrobe.

Willmafrockfit · 12/05/2024 08:47

it doesnt matter in this case whether she is married to harry or who she is but it is inappropriate dressing that matters imo

Houseplanter · 12/05/2024 08:47

As inappropriate as bare shoulders in the Vatican or Westminster Abbey.

You choose to visit somewhere you respect what's expected.. you don't have to agree with it, you respect it.

Applies to Royalty, celebrities, men, women, everyone.

BigBadBarri · 12/05/2024 08:49

LateAF · 12/05/2024 07:41

But Nigerians wouldn’t see it as cultural appropriation which is surely what matters. We would see it as a celebration of our culture. Kind of like wearing a sari to an Indian wedding or festival wear to carnival.

I agree with you that she can’t win in terms of criticism.

What’s the difference between cultural appropriation and celebrating culture? How could anyone tell the difference?

WittiestUsernameEver · 12/05/2024 08:51

BigBadBarri · 12/05/2024 08:49

What’s the difference between cultural appropriation and celebrating culture? How could anyone tell the difference?

Psssst... There isn't. It's made up bollocks.

CharlotteRumpling · 12/05/2024 08:56

BigBadBarri · 12/05/2024 08:49

What’s the difference between cultural appropriation and celebrating culture? How could anyone tell the difference?

Wearing a sari whatever race you are is fine. Claiming a white person invented the sari or yoga or turmeric lattes is cultural appropriation.

LateAF · 12/05/2024 08:57

WittiestUsernameEver · 12/05/2024 08:51

Psssst... There isn't. It's made up bollocks.

Oh stop.

Cultural celebration is where you highlight a culture in spaces where that’s a cultural expectation. Eg Nigerian traditional weddings - everyone is expected to wear traditional attire - white, black, brown- and there’s no doubt about the fact that it’s Nigerian culture.

cultural appropriation is when people take traditions and cultural norms without attributing it to that culture (steal it so to speak - I.e. the kardashian jenners, iggy azalea, k pop artists). Typically happens when a particular group is mocked for their culture until it’s stolen by a (typically) white person who don’t experience the same discrimination and are instead celebrated for the stolen culture.

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lunitunes · 12/05/2024 08:58

LateAF · 12/05/2024 07:33

For her Nigerian tour. Whoever put the outfits together for her has no clue on culturally appropriate attire. When I was a child it was drummed into me to cover my shoulders- especially in formal settings. So far all her dresses have been strappy or shoulder less (even backless!), while all the women in the photos with her have their shoulders covered as is the norm.

Also the relentless neutrals are uninspiring in a country where colourful clothing is standard. There are many amazing Nigerian or west African designers she could have highlighted on this tour (one of the images is from Lagos fashion week).

Please this is NOT a Meghan bashing thread so take your nasty comments to the Royal Family board (hence why I didn’t post on there). I think she looks stunning and her hair and makeup have been spot on. I also like how welcoming the Nigerian community have been- and I know they will give her a pass for her outfits since she’s an outsider. Just wondering what the consensus is.

YABU- she’s a foreigner so can dress how she likes
YANBU- clothing on a “royal” tour should be culturally appropriate and tailored to that region

Hmmm I am a Nigerian who had a traditional wedding in Ogun state and neither myself of any of my bridesmaids had coveted soldiers. In fact, many of the younger women had off shoulder traditional clothing so think Nigerian fashion has moved on from what you think of is.

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CharlotteRumpling · 12/05/2024 08:32

Would not be in the slightest bit inappropriate. It's mostly only white people who care about cultural appropriation. Indians would love it.

Yes - this! I’m white and wore a lehenga to a wedding - we were actively encouraged to find Indian dress if we wanted to and the family and their friends offered to take us out shopping or lend us things. (We were in India at the time and they wanted to share their culture with us.)

In terms of Meghan and Harry, you dress appropriately for the occasion and if you’re not sure e.g. covered shoulders etc. then you find out.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 12/05/2024 09:02

WittiestUsernameEver · 12/05/2024 08:11

And I'm fairly sure Harry is wearing neutrals... nobody has pointed out him wearing neutrals and looking scruffy with his shirt buttons undone , shirt untucked etc

Nobody has called for him to have a Nigerian stylist...

There is a presumably Nigerian young woman in the background of that picture wearing an off the shoulder dress!
OP its seen as critcism of Meghan because everything is her fault, even when her husband slags off his own family, its her fault.