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To think Meghan should have chosen a Nigerian stylist

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LateAF · 12/05/2024 07:33

For her Nigerian tour. Whoever put the outfits together for her has no clue on culturally appropriate attire. When I was a child it was drummed into me to cover my shoulders- especially in formal settings. So far all her dresses have been strappy or shoulder less (even backless!), while all the women in the photos with her have their shoulders covered as is the norm.

Also the relentless neutrals are uninspiring in a country where colourful clothing is standard. There are many amazing Nigerian or west African designers she could have highlighted on this tour (one of the images is from Lagos fashion week).

Please this is NOT a Meghan bashing thread so take your nasty comments to the Royal Family board (hence why I didn’t post on there). I think she looks stunning and her hair and makeup have been spot on. I also like how welcoming the Nigerian community have been- and I know they will give her a pass for her outfits since she’s an outsider. Just wondering what the consensus is.

YABU- she’s a foreigner so can dress how she likes
YANBU- clothing on a “royal” tour should be culturally appropriate and tailored to that region

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littlecottonbud · 12/05/2024 10:48

She would have been criticised whatever she were to wear - some people just don't like her ! BUT I do think she should look at her tailoring and how clothes look on her - but maybe 'her people' are scared of her - she has quite a reputation - i personally would have liked to have seen her in Nigerian inspired clothes.

tattychicken · 12/05/2024 10:49

"Also on one of the archetypes podcasts mentioned doing a genealogy test and she was 'a quarter nigerian' so even if people did bang on about her and cultural appropriation she could set the record straight. "

So which is it then? 25% or 43%?

DramaLlamaBangBang · 12/05/2024 10:49

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Her mother is Black, so she is half Black. Whatever people think, she is not White. When the Daily Mail said she was 'Straight outta Compton' when they first started dating, it wasn't because they thought she was White, or even half White. It was to tell every one of their readers in no uncertain terms that she was Black.

LateAF · 12/05/2024 10:54

idyllicsunsand · 12/05/2024 10:48

First poster nailed it. Also just came here to say she would have been accused of cultural appropriation. I have Nigerian and other African friends. Take it from me, what 'a guest wears' does not concern Africans. Happy?

I’m Nigerian but you have Nigerian friends so you must be right 🙄

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LizzieSiddal · 12/05/2024 10:54

FloofyBear · 12/05/2024 09:37

A Nigerian stylist for some tips would have been very sensible, pink dress not very appropriate, I saw a dress that looked like a wedding gown ?! Lots of bare skin on show, scrappy dresseswhich I don't think is very appropriate. I don't think she should be dressing g like the Nigerian ladies though

Agree with this. I’ve only seen the odd pic but my first thoughts on her clothing were “I wish she’d covered her shoulders”.

Oaktree55 · 12/05/2024 10:55

She looks terrible considering the price of the dresses. Hadn’t appreciated the cultural implications but yes totally agree. Some of the dresses aren’t even standard office attire.

OneWorldly4 · 12/05/2024 10:56

LateAF · 12/05/2024 08:07

It’s not fine just because it’s a warm country- no one would wear those dresses while visiting Saudi Arabia would they?

Covered shoulders really is the etiquette in Nigeria and given it’s not just a visit- it’s an official tour at least on Nigeria’s side, she could have hired a stylist who would have known the etiquette of the country.

I'm with you OP.

I think her outfits have been inappropriate. She should have observed what is respectful in the host country and embraced the dress code. Of course, you can't tell MNs this. God forbid you can't wear a bikini if you feel like it 🙄

LateAF · 12/05/2024 10:57

Oaktree55 · 12/05/2024 10:55

She looks terrible considering the price of the dresses. Hadn’t appreciated the cultural implications but yes totally agree. Some of the dresses aren’t even standard office attire.

Come off it she doesn’t look terrible - she looks beautiful and if she was going to an event in LA would have been spot on.

But in Nigeria her clothing is very bare for official visits and formal occasions.

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hotpotlover · 12/05/2024 10:57

When I saw the pictures I thought she looked beautiful, the best pictures I have seen of her in a long time.

Her dresses looked beautiful and very tasteful.

It's tiring to see women picking other women apart.

One poster made a really good point.

Why isn't Harry criticised for wearing neutrals?

I also don't think not covering your shoulders is such a great faux pax in Nigeria.

They know that she's American and that she's from a different culture.

It's not exactly like walking into a mosque without a veil.

Todaywasbetter · 12/05/2024 10:57

I suppose she considers herself the important person and wants to stand out so she wears clothes that make her stand out - the pale pale colours et cetera

FaeryRing · 12/05/2024 10:57

I agree about the dresses looking ‘scrappy’. She really suits knee length shift dresses with capped sleeves (I think I remember her wearing a gorgeous turquoise one), but not the thin straps/low cut/maxi boho style she keeps trying to go for. Maybe it would look ok for a beach day, but not international engagements.

Arraminta · 12/05/2024 10:58

I'm actually surprised because in the past she has worn some stunning outfits and I loved her very pared back style. But in Nigeria her outfits just look cheap and not flattering. The peach, backless dress was much too long for her and looked rumpled. The red slip dress hung badly and showed her VPL. The other off white slip dress looked cheap and the fabric was heavily wrinkled.

SpringerFall · 12/05/2024 10:58

I wouldn't expect a Nigerian or any other visitor to Britain to have a British dresser they should be accepted whatever they wear so would Meghan or anyone else be any different?

taleasoldashoney · 12/05/2024 10:59

It sounds like she agrees with you over the colour @LateAF

“It has been a whirlwind 24 hours since we arrived, and I very quickly got the memo that I need to wear more colour, so I can fit in with all of you and your incredible fashion,” she said.

FaeryRing · 12/05/2024 10:59

I think variations of this cut would’ve looked lovely, with a chignon and big colourful earrings.

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LateAF · 12/05/2024 10:59

hotpotlover · 12/05/2024 10:57

When I saw the pictures I thought she looked beautiful, the best pictures I have seen of her in a long time.

Her dresses looked beautiful and very tasteful.

It's tiring to see women picking other women apart.

One poster made a really good point.

Why isn't Harry criticised for wearing neutrals?

I also don't think not covering your shoulders is such a great faux pax in Nigeria.

They know that she's American and that she's from a different culture.

It's not exactly like walking into a mosque without a veil.

Just curious- are you Nigerian?

It’s not like walking into a mosque without a veil because that is a rule not an etiquette.

This is an etiquette/ faux pas like wearing a white maxi dress as a wedding guest in the UK. No one will stop you from entering the venue but it will certainly be frowned upon and commented on behind your back.

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ToBeOrNotToBee · 12/05/2024 11:00

I struggle to believe any stylist was used.
Most of her outfits look awful, especially that black and gold dress where she looks positively skeletal.
Her clothing has done her absolutely no favours.

Harry looks like he needs a good tailor, his suits look so ill fitting. In that white one of his I can't help but compare him to Colonel Sanders.

itsmylife7 · 12/05/2024 11:02

AliceKyteler · 12/05/2024 07:38

If she had though the Meghan haters would have accused her of cultural appropriation.
Not that they care about that sort of thing. She can't win though can she?

Exactly what I thought too.

EachandEveryone · 12/05/2024 11:02

I agree. I went to a Nigerian wedding in the States last year and it was stunning. Whether the traditional wear or fashion clothes everyone without exception looked beautiful I’ve never seen such gorgeous bright colours, beautiful fitted trouser suits or long evening dresses. There was deffo some element of competition and even the men just looked so handsome in their finery. Maybe the Nigerians will let it go but I bet they whisper behind her back 😀 I’m so over neutrals in the Summer.

DarkDarkNight · 12/05/2024 11:04

I think you’re right. It’s polite to observe a country’s customs when visiting and observe the cultural norms. As a tourist most people would do that, on this kind of tour she could have taken better advice.

Arraminta · 12/05/2024 11:07

Also I noticed that her self tan had been applied really badly. Her face and decolletage was several shades darker than her back and shoulders, and you could see it was very patchy on her hands. She usually looks very, very groomed but in Nigeria she looks like she's just hanging out at the beach.

Housewife2010 · 12/05/2024 11:09

It's not a Royal tour though. Royal tours are planned in great detail for many months. There are nods to the welcoming country in the Royals' clothes. Kate often wears colours from the flag and clothes from local designers. Although H&M are royal they have left Royal life so this is a personal trip.

Pleasealexa · 12/05/2024 11:10

I wouldn't expect a Nigerian or any other visitor to Britain to have a British dresser they should be accepted whatever they wear so would Meghan or anyone else be any different?

To go shopping in Oxford street no, but a Garden party with government dignitaries I would expect some input on what's appropriate to wear. I think the comment that she was dressing for a night out in LA is probably nail on head.

SisterBethina · 12/05/2024 11:11

tattychicken · 12/05/2024 10:49

"Also on one of the archetypes podcasts mentioned doing a genealogy test and she was 'a quarter nigerian' so even if people did bang on about her and cultural appropriation she could set the record straight. "

So which is it then? 25% or 43%?

She said she’s 43% Nigerian.

Meghan Markle reveals genealogy results in new podcast episode

Meghan Markle has shared her genealogy results in the latest episode of her podcast which examines the “black angry woman” stereotype.

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/united-kingdom/meghan-markle-reveals-she-is-43-per-cent-nigerian-in-new-archetypes-episode-on-the-angry-black-woman-stereotype/news-story/abd0ad5df9e48a25f106b386c8dcb8d1

Bellevu · 12/05/2024 11:13

I'm Nigerian by background and nothing Meghan wore was disrespectful or against 'cultural norms.

There are some Conservative sectors and some incredibly (more so than even in the UK) progressive ones. In the arena and people she was mixing with during her visit and for the purpose, Meghan would not have caused negative comment.

Nigeria has a very rich sense of self and culture. Please stop imposing some lazy, backwards sharia shorthand on the people and aspirations

All those people faux sighing about the missed opportunity for a Nigerian stylist 🙄 Kate and the rest of the Royal family haven't used non white stylists for tours, and the Royal family and household are infamous for a) employment tribunals brought by black staff for racism at work and b) using their exemptions from the race and later equality acts to avoid declaring how many non white staff they have (clie, bet they're cleaning or filing and no where near styling unless there's an emergency photo opportunity to help how how the royals do reflect life in C21 Britain by letting black and brown people come within arms length of them)