To think most women on here hate men

@Tanyahawkes Maybe, but that's my opinion. Men only get away with so little in a relationship if women put up with it and/or justify it.

I think it's the ones who minimise and explain away men's poor behaviour who you should be worried about, if they're raising boys (or girls for that matter).

@Tanyahawkes can you link us to this latest example you're using to back yourself up? I'm wondering if you've completely misrepresented that one too.

I think to some extent we as women are responsible for the poor behaviour of men in terms of sharing the load (both mental and otherwise).
If we didn't just "accept" it then it men wouldn't get away with it so much.
On the other hand, it has to be genuinely shared. I pesonally don't think, for example, that someone who doesn't work at all but whose kids are in school is fairly sharing the load with a ft working partner.
Equality just that.

The misandry on here is rife and I find it frightening that so many of these man hater types are raising sons. Don't get me wrong, there are men out there that hate women too but since your post is about women hating men on MN - I agree, it's over the top.

I've been on MN for years and part from the plainly funny ones, have never seen a LTB that wasn't the right thing to do. Not an easy thing to do, but the right thing.

I'm finding it hard to believe the OP hasn't thought that things get posted because they are problems, often of long-standing and by virtue of the internet, you only ever get to hear one side of it.

Actually, I'm not finding it hard to believe; a thread like this gets posted very few months as if dredging some priceless insight out of the murk.

I don't hate men per se but I am surrounded by terrible examples. The one I live with is a lazy , sometimes abusive, dickhead. My dad is a controlling ex DV selfish narcissist. My brother is an addict with no money. Even my oldest best male friend is pushing 40, still single and hankers after 20 year olds. I know a lot of twatty men that my friends and acquaintances are partnered up with. Reading Mumsnet also makes me despair of mankind.

It's strange as when I was younger I generally enjoyed the company of men more. Do they start off nice and become knobheads as they get older?!

There’s a heck of a lot of bitter ladies on MN, many having endured rough relationships with men hence the lack of empathy or patience towards them. Plenty of women haters too. It’s a great space to take out your frustrations in life on strangers.

I think everyone on MN seems to hate everyone.

I think after a while of seeing the anger against men on mn you realise the horror story of the alternate reality some posters live in though, as in if myself and dh have a fight a few minutes later we’ll generally go ‘sorry I was a bit ridiculous’ nearly at the same time and then have a proper talk.

Some people have an argument with their dh and they’re physically abused or threatened or told they’re unspeakable things.

Some couples abuse each other and don’t realise there’s something wrong.

It took me a while on mn to realise I was seeing things through a ‘we can work this out together’ bubble as opposed to the posters that jump in and tell the poster their dh is a c word and to get out of there, while the rest of us are saying’but all he said was …’ It’s because when the same thing happened to them it was in a different scenario

Men, males, blokes, there are lots of words I use regarding the opposite sex, again I see no wrong but if this offensive I apologise again

'Men' are adult male humans. 'Females' could be dogs, baboons or trees. Using the word females is literally dehumanising.

And don't apologise if you say you see no wrong. It's a 'sorry not sorry'.

Have you any idea how long it's been "men" and "females"? It goes back centuries and was just one small part of men expressing their utter disdain for our sex.

Interesting how those who use "females" rarely refer to men as "males."

NAMALT meant Not All Men Are Like That. It's practically a trope that someone will jump in to say that when the obvious statistics about male violence, or women having learned to be wary of men, is mentioned. Similar to Not My Nigel, though I haven't seen that one here - Nigel in this case standing for NIcest Guy that Ever Lived, meaning the speaker's husband/boyfriend/son.

Really, what's the point of your thread? You haven't provided any examples, you've admitted posts saying LTB have a point, and you've been through shit from abusive men. Why does it bother you that women here can have a poor opinion of men as a class? What does it matter if we do? As PP said, it's not like women "hating" men means we're out raping and murdering them, unlike men who hate women. Men are the single greatest threat to women's lives and safety.

BTW there has never been anything remotely like equality (or rather, equity, or better yet liberation) for women in recorded history, and right now we're in the middle of a huge pushback against what gains we made in the last half century or so.

No, we just call them out on their shit.

You have a tin ear for tone and a poor knowledge of the connotation field of ‘females’ used as a noun, if so. But it’s hardly surprising, given the content of your posts.

Don’t forget her partner’s “crazy ex withholding sex”

I think we can safely cry, BINGO!

Also practically abusive bitches...

Like we haven't heard that before

Along with "equality has gone to far"...🤔

Interesting. “Females”.