To think Taylor Swift is overrated?

I'm not cool just old so it's off my radar, her music hasn't leapt out to me on the radio at all though for me to want to listen more, the only more modern artist that did was Amy Winehouse and that was obviously a while ago

This is getting fucking boring now.

Yes you're all super cool for not liking TS....

I suppose it depends if it's your taste in music, to me it is background but not offensive, similar to Ed Sheeran, I couldn't recognise a song from either but I must have heard them on the radio. I have heard her singing on the TV but have not recognised the songs, she doesn't sound warbly though like Adele and some others which hurts my ears.

Can we have a few threads about how over rated Ed Sheeran is? Or that one song Lewis Capaldi's record label keeps trying to convince us all is actually a different song? The Rolling Stones perhaps? The Beatles?

Or do we just preserve the over rated threads for Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Adele and other female artists? 🙄

Used to think the same OP but I have done an about turn after watching folklore on Disney+

I shared this with my DD who was captivated and she is now dealing with teen angst by writing songs. Further she has taken up the guitar. It has done her the world of good.

Amazing!!!!

Fuck me, another one of these?

Here you go OP. The top one was started 10 days ago.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5058658-am-i-the-only-person-that-doesnt-like-taylor-swift?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5058378-bored-of-taylor-swift

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5006231-to-think-enough-with-taylor-swift-the-boyfriend-the-superbowl-and-the-beer-all-over-the-news

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5006103-to-ask-what-the-appeal-is-for-taylor-swift?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4849719-to-not-get-the-taylor-swift-hype

Unless you are some sort of expert in the things she has achieved success in, you have no credibility or knowledge to decide she is overrated. Just say you’re not a fan of her music and move on. Though, quite why people feel the need to announce this (or anything for that matter) on social media I don’t know. Ordinary people have such delusions of grandeur nowadays. No one cares if you don’t like Taylor Swift or mushy peas or that your kid did a shit.

I no longer have young children, but if I did, I would be happy for them to have Taylor Swift as a role model.

You are not being unreasonable! I like a couple of her songs but the hype is just baffling!

Can’t get past her animal cruelty with her cats and featuring cropped eared dogs.

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't "get" what you're saying.

If those people saying she isn’t talented could write and record eleven albums, win 14 Grammys and countless other awards and then partake in a world wide tour grossing over a billion (so far) where they perform live for 3 hours just to show us how anyone could do it and it doesn’t take any actual talent then please go ahead.

Anyway, it’s cool these days not to like Taylor Swift, or to say her songs are crap (tbf though she doesn’t seem to actually release her best songs so lots of people might not know them). No one is forcing you to like her or listen to her.

I am a Swiftie but I do have to admit I am not feeling her new album yet, hoping it is a grower!

This! It’s just lowest common denominator boring conversation. Let people like what they like, if you don’t like it…don’t listen.

@HelenaWaiting What part of my post are you not getting?

Any thread about Taylor is either bashing her or banging on about her like she's the messiah. We have a royal family board so why not a Taylor board? She gets enough attention to keep a board active.

Personally I don't see the appeal. I don't like her music but I don't envy her

I get that my 8 year old granddaughter loves her. I don't get adults being into her at all

I agree. She's marketable, catchy and works hard. Like a whole lot of other singers. I have no idea why she's this phenomenon

Her and Britney are prime examples of what marketing effectively can do.

Actually, she's what, 34? 35?

I think I first heard of her in about 2010 so she was famous back then but nowhere near as huge as she is now.

I was actually just thinking about this yesterday in the car, that it's very unusual for a female artist to be so massive but to only just be reaching the peak of her stardom (perhaps she's not even there yet but it's difficult to see how she can get more successful than she is now) in her 30s.

I don't think she's going anywhere and will still be drawing in the crowds 10 or more years from now.

Theres something for everyone so it’s not fair to say someone’s overrated.

That said I don’t trust modern music sales figures because if you’re rich and powerful, and backed by a strong label they can be manipulated. Taylor’s latest album is available on 19 different formats, this includes multiple different album covers and versions where there is a different bonus track. Her most rabid fans will buy every version pushing up sales. Meanwhile Adele’s biggest album came in one version on 2 formats. Her record were almost entirely individual purchases.

In addition, Taylor’s people game Spotify by ensuring her songs are inserted into random ‘you may also like’ Playlists. Therefore you could select Travis Scott and within 30 mins a Taylor Swift song will appear. These artists are nothing alike. This will be counted as a stream/sale.

The charts are fake and just used as a marketing tool by those with the power to do so. It’s not like the 80s/90s where you had to go in the store and buy a physical album. I don’t believe she’s sold anywhere near as many records as people like Madonna or Michael Jackson at all but her figures back up the hype meaning her tours sell more and that’s where the real money is. You have to hand it to her marketing team.

I can't really get into Taylor Swift. She releases new albums all the time but a lot of her songs sound very similar to each other. I really like a couple of her songs and would have them on a playlist but if I listen to one of her albums I get a bit bored.

But I'm glad so many other people love her music because she is the female superstar the showbiz world needs IMO. I love her zero fucks attitude.

Her music isn’t my cup of team, so I don’t rate that, but what I do rate is the way she has worked so hard to become the woman she is today. For that, she has my utmost admiration.

Wondering how long it'll be before someone comes along to say they've never heard of her! There are always people who think it makes them look clever, or intellectual or SOMETHING to say things like this. It doesn't.

Honestly I only know a few of her records from when DD was a fan when she was younger and they’re really catchy. Going on those songs I don’t think she’s some sort of song writing genius but I don’t think it’s just about that these days. She’s obviously brilliant at marketing herself and people must love her songs and her so I suppose it depends on which facets of her you think are overrated. Lots of people I know aren’t particularly bothered by her but I think that’s probably because my kids are older and into other artists now.

Good luck to her I say (although the putting her music back on tik tok whilst other universal artists aren’t allowed to isn’t great ImHO).

She is a highly successful singer songwriter. No art is ever to everyone’s taste but she clearly appeals to a large number of people.

“overrated” is an unpleasant way to describe someone who is successful. It stinks the same as people who say The Beatles, Queen, Elton John etc are overrated.

if you don’t like her music don’t listen. I manage not to play her albums on loop. She is someone who is talented and caught a mood at the right time. I think it’s great to see someone succeeding. Especially a (relatively) young woman.

Same with Billie Eilish.

(ETA I know there are many other successful women. These two have just been in BBC headlines this week)