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Given friend a strong warning regarding a new bf & CSA accusation....

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BlessedKali · 31/03/2024 21:17

Hi all,

A very good friend of mine is a single mum to a two year old girl. She met a man two months ago who she thinks is absolutely amazing, and has been really 'healing' since the very toxic father of her baby.

I went to see her recently and asked her about her new man. As we're good friends, we got straight into it, and she told me about this rather, in my eyes, RED FLAG.

So she tells me that he was accused by his brother and brother's wife of sexual assault of their daughter (his neice). There was a case, but he was never found guilty. Case was dropped, etc.

When my friend told me that I clapped my hand to my mouth and couldn't really hold back on a rather strong reaction. Think along of the lines of:

''oooohhh no!!! what a red flag!!! how could you ever trust him with your daughter... etc etc''

I didn't tell her what to do, or shame her in any way, but I did very strongly explain that this is a red flag and I wouldn't tak the risk with my child.

Now, she believes his story, for various reasons - like, they found no evidence on any of his tech devices, and the whole family is on his side (although she can only know this from his own word. Also the fact her told her almost straight away made her feel he was honest.

Claire's law can't be used, as he is from a euro country.

I think I've scared my friend and now she is very upset coming to terms with having to end what she thought was going to be a lovely relationship.

Was I wrong to have warned her so strongly? I'm kinda feeling bad to see her so upset.

I can't really discuss this with actual friends as it is confidential to her, so I'm asking mumsnet what they think.

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MissLucyx · 31/03/2024 23:32

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Ew. Is that what they do?

BlessedKali · 31/03/2024 23:42

No, acually I have advised my friend that I have gained alot of information from MN, and it appears she has come here for advice to. I am in shock.

Other mumsnetters know my username.

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BlessedKali · 31/03/2024 23:43

I am also incredibly happy that the advice is being seen <3 <3 <3

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 31/03/2024 23:43

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Where did THAT come from? I see that the other thread has been taken down.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 31/03/2024 23:46

Well on the chance that this IS genuine.

Honest? He's not being honest. He's getting his story in first in case she hears about it elsewhere.

That doesn't make him innocent. I'd never take that chance.

BlessedKali · 31/03/2024 23:52

MistyGreenAndBlue · 31/03/2024 23:46

Well on the chance that this IS genuine.

Honest? He's not being honest. He's getting his story in first in case she hears about it elsewhere.

That doesn't make him innocent. I'd never take that chance.

this is absolutely genuine, and if these posts get taken down then a woman misses out on valuable advice.

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AutumnFroglets · 31/03/2024 23:56

I'm going to ignore the main part of your post for this

who spent the 5 years with the baby's father in coercively controlling relationship.

It is now well known that once you have been in one abusive relationship the chances of going straight into another abusive relationship is very high unless you've had therapy. Get her to do The Freedom Programme as a bare minimum please OP.

EDIT - the abuse could be different, ie financial, or not as bad, but it IS still an abusive one.

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The threads are not fake!! And you are getting in the way of a woman receiving some invaluable advice! I was private messaging you so that the thread does not get derailed - so the advice is VERY clear. For god's sake you just are making an assumption! I hand on heart say you are wrong, and the consequences of you being wrong are you are getting in the way of someone receiving advice on protecting their child.

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Brendaloves · 01/04/2024 00:29

No smoke without fire, the bar for conviction is set very high. It doesn’t mean the allegations didn’t have some degree of merit.

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Yes, i've been on mumsnet a long time. They will check the IPs and see the truth. I am really, really asking you to please just leave this thread alone now. If you don't believe it, fine. But please stop derailing it <3

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BlessedKali · 01/04/2024 00:47

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Have you considered for one moment that you might be wrong, and what the consequences for the women invloved in this are?

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MeMyCatsAndMyBooks · 31/03/2024 21:19

YANBU. Only a idiot would risk their child with someone like that.

This. The way you reacted is the ONLY way to react.

Gunkle1 · 01/04/2024 02:18

Major red flags.

Children (if it was the child) very rarely make these things up, as they either dont understand sexual behaviour or they are scared to not being believed.

Other red flags are he has moved country, this might be to get away from his past. She is also the prime person these people go for. Little supports, single parents, past abusive relationships etc.

Also as someone said above people who have experienced domestic violence are more likely to go into other abusive relationships. Its all linked to childhood and attachments.

Usually with domestic abuse the advise is to offer support and there for when the person doesn't decide to leave, but with this type of allegations and her having a child that advice isn't valid. If it was me I would be contacting social services, it will destroy your relationship with her but it might protect an innocent child.

KomodoOhno · 01/04/2024 02:18

BlessedKali · 31/03/2024 21:24

No, I don't know how the allegation came about.

It's almst irrelevant isnt it. What I talker to her about is how could she ever truly know? So she would always have to just have an element of trust/faith. And does she want a relationship in the future where she might be second guessing leaving her child with him

I agree. If he's innocent that's lovely but when it comes to your children you err on the side of cauand you never take a chance like this.

JMSA · 01/04/2024 02:33

Oh God OP, your reaction was bang on 👌 so please don't feel bad about that.
Your friend would be an absolute fanny to stay with this man. It is simply not worth the risk.

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DawnMumsnet · 01/04/2024 09:03

Hi all,

Thanks for your reports about this thread. The OP's a long-term member of the site and we've no reason to think this thread isn't genuine so we've removed a number of troll hunting posts.

The OP's friend joined the site last night to post her own thread to ask for advice about this situation. She's since deregistered her account and we've taken her thread down because it had been overrun with troll hunting posts.

As ever, we'd ask that you please report any suspicions to us rather than on the thread itself as it can deter people from seeking advice.

Tedaaaaaaaaah · 01/04/2024 10:41

OP you are so right to have told her this. I think the troll hunting (I also reported your post so it was checked out) are because most sane people can’t believe anyone would endanger their child in this way. Unfortunately you don’t have to read the news for long to see terrible things happen because people put a new partner ahead of their kids

Solocup · 01/04/2024 12:12

You did the right thing. I don’t believe you’d make an allegation like that about anyone, let alone your own brother, without bloody good reason.
That no conviction happened is completely irrelevant; they rarely do, sadly.
Even if it was made up (which is so unlikely), why on earth risk it?! Don’t question yourself, you did good.

Parrilalilalila · 01/04/2024 22:54

If a man tells you stuff like this, this early on, it is to test your reaction.
It is how they know how far they can take it with you.
In this case, pretty far. He tells her the worst story imaginable about himself, and she stays. Worried, but stays.
Omg
Hopefully she listens to you in the end, op.
Or you will be doing a lot of surprise visits and baby sitting, I think I would.
Ugh.
Good luck. I hope this ends well.
Even though he will be on to the next gullable woman with child. Horrible thought.

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