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Is it horrible to make ds walk

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Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 16:47

Am I horrible making ds walk for 40 mins to and from school because I want to avoid the bus?

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Happyher · Yesterday 18:57

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 17:17

Sorry i forgot to say hes 11 starting sen school. Reason is because I don't want to be around people and over packed buses.

Sorry i was thinking about other things and forgot to add the most important thing

When I was 12 I used to walk to school which took about the same amount of time. I did it so I could save my 8p a day bus fare. I walked home most days too

lessglittermoremud · Yesterday 18:54

My son on a nice day walks the 50 mins to school, if he wants to get there quicker he cycles
Ive offered him bus fare and he chooses to make his own way there and keep the bus fare.
On our estate most of the kids walk or cycle to the secondary schools, the nearest is a 40 minute walk, the others are a similar walk in the opposite direction, none are closer by. They seem to walk/cycle in groups even when raining.

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 18:52

LIZS · Yesterday 18:11

Realistically would you be able to leave the house early enough every day to be on time? Does he have much kit to carry? What about after school?

He doesn't have to carry anything hes allowed to wear PE kit to school. Books are kept at school so are pens.
I can leave home around 8.10. It actually takes longer to bus.

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Asuitablecat · Yesterday 18:51

Calliopespa · Yesterday 18:38

He may well “catch” her anxiety

I'm more worried he'll constantly catch cold!

Lots of people love to say being cold and wet in cold weather doesn't make you catch a cold, it's a virus etc etc, and yes it is a virus, but being cold and wet makes you more susceptible to those viruses. It just does. Mums have known this for decades and even the research is coming back round to this view.

Unless you deliberately go out running in it. Then it gives you super immune powers.

Asuitablecat · Yesterday 18:50

He's going into yr7. Of course he can walk it. Or he can get the bus himself. Kids get buses/ trains/ bikes where i work. My own dc had a 30 minute walk.

Ds less than 30, because he was usually late and had to run most of it.

SlugJam · Yesterday 18:50

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 18:39

No physical issues. He can cope with the school day. He said its easier than primary. Hes not entitled to transport.

How has he been getting there and back so far?

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Yesterday 18:44

Freshrain · Yesterday 18:28

I would expect an 11 year old to walk, simply because that's a perfectly reasonable walk, nothing to do with 'avoiding the bus'.

My ds walked 35 mins to school and my dds walked 45 mins to school (sometimes they chose to add on an extra distance to go via friends' houses). It has been normal routine for them throughout school and set them up for adult life being independent and happy to walk reasonable distances to places.
They enjoyed the 'decompressing' by chatting with friends on the way home, as well as benefitting from the fresh air and exercise.

It is worrying that people think this is a shocking distance for secondary school dc to walk.

It all depends on the route he has to walk.
If its high traffic, he has sen and is not familiar with the route or not particularly used to walking to school on his own, then yes - it would be an issue in his first term at secondary school. The first term is a challenge in its own right.

If its a walk without many difficult crossings, or its straight forward enough for him not to get lost , and he feels confident about it. Then maybe.

But there's not enough information.

But as I recall only too well, the first few weeks of secondary schools, there were several mishaps on the journey until they got used to it.. then they had to get used to dark mornings and evenings and bad weather.

Its a lot of pressure in itself when there's a bus available.

BeardySchnauzer · Yesterday 18:41

I think it’s weather dependent but if it’s very cold or wet I think it would be unfair to make him walk

HedgerowD · Yesterday 18:40

I thinknits fine as long as it isn't raining heavily. I love walking and thinks it's good in so many ways. I also hate getting the bus. Could you manage if the weather was terrible? Especially in the mornings? I think it would be awful for him to be in wet clothes all day.

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 18:39

Lougle · Yesterday 18:06

Does he have any physical issues @Whyohwhy99 ? How does he cope with school? My children with SEN wouldn't have coped because they used all of their energy on coping with the school day.

Is he entitled to school transport?

No physical issues. He can cope with the school day. He said its easier than primary. Hes not entitled to transport.

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Calliopespa · Yesterday 18:38

AmnesiacsDream · Yesterday 18:34

He may well “catch” her anxiety because OP will not be able to hide her dislike of these sorts of situations and if she doesn’t make herself do it anyway that reasoning - that crowds/people are scary and you should go significantly out of your way to avoid, will get passed on.

Parental mental health conditions that are not well managed rank up there with addiction for the negative impact on children’s lives. (Also really bad impact on the sufferers life). And the way to overcome anxiety and stop it escalating is to not allow it to dictate your choices. OP says she’s getting treatment so hopefully she will realize this soon and gain tools she can use to overcome. But it’s important she isn’t fed a false narrative that it doesn’t really matter - it does.

He may well “catch” her anxiety

I'm more worried he'll constantly catch cold!

Lots of people love to say being cold and wet in cold weather doesn't make you catch a cold, it's a virus etc etc, and yes it is a virus, but being cold and wet makes you more susceptible to those viruses. It just does. Mums have known this for decades and even the research is coming back round to this view.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Yesterday 18:35

Walking is fantastic for them... in the current weather and you are right to consider doing the route to help him get used to the route and the difficult to navigate bits, and you could see how long it takes him in reality.

However, what if he wants to do an after schools club in the winter, with all his baggage. DC these days have so much to take to school and back.. Fridays pm and Mondays am, are always heavy duty days, with all their weekend text books.. (science text books for eg.). and lap tops, plus PE kit...etc.

If his brother is willing to escort him initially on the bus - that is his best bet. There's probably still quite a bit of a walk to the bus stop and then at the other end... and they do run around at lunchtime.

But if you are set on him walking, can you get him some form of back pack/with wheels, because there is a lot of research on the adverse effect of heavy school back packs can have.

AmnesiacsDream · Yesterday 18:34

JLou08 · Yesterday 18:24

That's rather dramatic. I don't think he's going to catch her anxiety because he walks to school. No one would tell someone who has a car to get the bus instead so they don't pass on social anxiety to their child.

He may well “catch” her anxiety because OP will not be able to hide her dislike of these sorts of situations and if she doesn’t make herself do it anyway that reasoning - that crowds/people are scary and you should go significantly out of your way to avoid, will get passed on.

Parental mental health conditions that are not well managed rank up there with addiction for the negative impact on children’s lives. (Also really bad impact on the sufferers life). And the way to overcome anxiety and stop it escalating is to not allow it to dictate your choices. OP says she’s getting treatment so hopefully she will realize this soon and gain tools she can use to overcome. But it’s important she isn’t fed a false narrative that it doesn’t really matter - it does.

ToKittyornottoKitty · Yesterday 18:34

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 18:18

Again, he won't be sitting in wet, soggy clothes all day - they'll dry.

And the speculation around potential sensory issues isn't really relevant as OP hasn't said anything about him struggling with those things.

But they will obviously be wet for several lessons. OP hasn’t answered any questions about her son’s needs as that’s not what she’s thinking about here. But there may be a reason why she’s wondering if walking is horrible.

Sewingbeedamned · Yesterday 18:31

op, if it wasn't for your social anxiety would you take him on the bus? In which case, yes, you are being unfair. Your problem is now affecting your child. It's time to get to grips with it. And I think you are kidding yourself if you think your anxiety is not being transmitted to your child - children pick up a lot that isn't said.

Calliopespa · Yesterday 18:29

I don't think it's the amount of exercise so much as the need to do it in all weathers and regardless of how tired he is. Sometimes my dc are exhausted after school - and no they are not obese. Children just do everything high energy so by late afternoon they are often feeling it.

It's all very well to say a bit of rain won't hurt them, but it's summer now and, while a spattering of drizzle is fine, walking though a downpour when it's also cold isn't healthy. It's also distracting to sit cold and wet in class.

Freshrain · Yesterday 18:28

I would expect an 11 year old to walk, simply because that's a perfectly reasonable walk, nothing to do with 'avoiding the bus'.

My ds walked 35 mins to school and my dds walked 45 mins to school (sometimes they chose to add on an extra distance to go via friends' houses). It has been normal routine for them throughout school and set them up for adult life being independent and happy to walk reasonable distances to places.
They enjoyed the 'decompressing' by chatting with friends on the way home, as well as benefitting from the fresh air and exercise.

It is worrying that people think this is a shocking distance for secondary school dc to walk.

Yodeldodeldo · Yesterday 18:27

My SEN child has a taxi to avoid the bus. He shares it with 2 other SEN children, a driver, and a passenger assistant ( one of the other kids has a history of bolting).

Morepositivemum · Yesterday 18:24

I think your problems are 1) the school bag and 2) by around lunchtime he’ll be much more tired than the rest of his class and potentially done if you know what I mean

JLou08 · Yesterday 18:24

Batties · Yesterday 17:47

No. Have you read the OP’s posts in which she describes the reason for walking is because she can’t be around people? She risks passing this rather significant social anxiety onto her child. The potential damage to her child’s social development far outweighs any health benefits there might be from walking. .

That's rather dramatic. I don't think he's going to catch her anxiety because he walks to school. No one would tell someone who has a car to get the bus instead so they don't pass on social anxiety to their child.

AmnesiacsDream · Yesterday 18:22

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 17:35

I am seeking help. But it takes time. It doesn't happen overnight. Im waiting for the next step

What would happen if you forced yourself to take the bus for his sake?

HappySummerFun · Yesterday 18:21

I think it's fine. If it's not fine, he'll moan enough that you'll realise it's not fine.

herewegoagainonwednesday · Yesterday 18:21

Depending on SEN, it could be a really good thing. For my ASD kid, the walk to/from school is perfect to decompress

Kepler22B · Yesterday 18:20

What does he think about it?

Also no need to have a fixed rule - when the weather is good you can walk. If it is horrid or anyone feels under the weather then hop on the bus.

Whyohwhy99 · Yesterday 18:20

beaglescurleduplikebagels · Yesterday 17:57

Because he doesn't need to know it's avoidant.

Most people don't understand that theres lots of assumptions that I pass it to ds. But I haven't told ds. When I have had to get on the bus I will do it at less busy times. When i he had to do school run I would get the early bus in time for breakfast club. I also had the opinion of the train and then a 10 -15 min walk. I don't say i really can't be around people so we must get the early bus. We are just going to breakfast club. I don't even know why I wrote this.

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