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RedTagAlan · 02/08/2026 10:23

logicisall · 02/08/2026 09:13

Trump's a man of his word. 🙄

Trump backtracks from promise to let Ukraine build Patriot missiles
US president tells reporters during Camp David cabinet meeting technology ‘a hard thing to give away

Donald Trump has backed off a promise to let Ukraine manufacture its own Patriot air defense interceptors, telling reporters that handing over the underlying technology was “a hard thing to give away” during a cabinet meeting at Camp David.
The retreat, billed by the White House as “something different” for the cabinet to experience together, was the first such meeting at the presidential compound of Trump’s second term.
It also became the venue for the US president to unpick, in real time, a commitment he made to Volodymyr Zelenskyy just a few days earlier.
Asked whether he was ready to grant Kyiv a license to build Patriots domestically – something he had suggested at a Nato summit in Turkey just this month, and which the Ukrainian president described as a productive topic in their White House meeting on Tuesday – Trump was noncommittal.
“We have not agreed to that,” he said. “We’re talking about it, but it’s a hard thing to give away that kind of technology.”

Giving away the weapons carried its own risks, he added: “People that you give that technology, they can some day turn on you. You know that is possible.”
The interceptor travels at “8,600 miles an hour”, Trump explained, adding for context: “If you go 60, it gets to be a little fast.”
He went on to recall an occasion on which five missiles were fired “at Jordan” and were shot down in sequence – rendered by the president as “bing bing bing bing”.
“Nobody else has that capacity,” he said of the system, before concluding that Washington “will be building many plants” to produce Patriots and Tomahawk missiles domestically – just not, for now, in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/31/trump-cabinet-camp-david-ukraine

Supply chain most likely.

The prewar manufacturing capacity was 600 a year. In April they announced a $4.7B contract to increase production to 2k a year.... over 7 years.

Lockheed's $4.7B Patriot Contract Is a U.S. Manufacturing Story (industrialsage.com)

That to me screams there is a supply chain bottleneck somewhere. There is a component, or components, in there that is slow and difficult to make.

Likely something that needs a rare earth material.

Lockheed's $4.7B Patriot Contract: The U.S. Manufacturing Story Behind the Headline

From 600 to 2,000 missiles per year. 15 U.S. facilities. 13,000 suppliers. Here's what the PAC-3 MSE production ramp means for American manufacturers.

https://www.industrialsage.com/lockheed-martin-pac-3-patriot-contract-us-manufacturing/

Spandauer · 02/08/2026 09:53

He was on another meme posting spree yesterday evening. Multiple postings including him as Elvis in white jumpsuit, taking over Greenland again, walking next to an alien, kissing golden statue of Jesus on the cross, photo caressing the WH pillars, Arc de Trump, Iran ships on the ocean bed, poster morphing his face with George Washington, Trump 2028 poster etc etc.

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logicisall · 02/08/2026 09:13

Trump's a man of his word. 🙄

Trump backtracks from promise to let Ukraine build Patriot missiles
US president tells reporters during Camp David cabinet meeting technology ‘a hard thing to give away

Donald Trump has backed off a promise to let Ukraine manufacture its own Patriot air defense interceptors, telling reporters that handing over the underlying technology was “a hard thing to give away” during a cabinet meeting at Camp David.
The retreat, billed by the White House as “something different” for the cabinet to experience together, was the first such meeting at the presidential compound of Trump’s second term.
It also became the venue for the US president to unpick, in real time, a commitment he made to Volodymyr Zelenskyy just a few days earlier.
Asked whether he was ready to grant Kyiv a license to build Patriots domestically – something he had suggested at a Nato summit in Turkey just this month, and which the Ukrainian president described as a productive topic in their White House meeting on Tuesday – Trump was noncommittal.
“We have not agreed to that,” he said. “We’re talking about it, but it’s a hard thing to give away that kind of technology.”

Giving away the weapons carried its own risks, he added: “People that you give that technology, they can some day turn on you. You know that is possible.”
The interceptor travels at “8,600 miles an hour”, Trump explained, adding for context: “If you go 60, it gets to be a little fast.”
He went on to recall an occasion on which five missiles were fired “at Jordan” and were shot down in sequence – rendered by the president as “bing bing bing bing”.
“Nobody else has that capacity,” he said of the system, before concluding that Washington “will be building many plants” to produce Patriots and Tomahawk missiles domestically – just not, for now, in Ukraine.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/31/trump-cabinet-camp-david-ukraine

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump

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Spandauer · 02/08/2026 08:12

Trump climbs down on Iran strikes after Saudi alarm and threats from Tehran.

Donald Trump said on Saturday night that the US would hold off on any new strikes on Iran provided a deal to end the months-long conflict is quickly reached – marking the president’s latest climbdown from extravagant threats to hit the Tehran regime hard.

The Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman called Trump on Saturday to express concerns about his strike plans, it was reported. Trump’s reversal also came after Iran threatened to retaliate decisively against its neighbours in the event of US strikes, while Kuwait reported being hit by Iranian drones on Saturday and two ships were attacked off Oman in the strait of Hormuz.
One source described as having knowledge of the Trump-Mohammed call told Axios that the Saudi crown prince had “urged Trump to de-escalate and refrain from launching the strikes”.

The Associated Press also reported the conversation, citing its own source. It said the Saudis were concerned that if the US targets Iran’s energy infrastructure or carries out massive strikes on other key infrastructure, Tehran could respond by carrying out similar attacks on the kingdom and other Gulf countries.

The crown prince during Saturday’s call sought clarity from Trump on what potential new action he was weighing to take against Iran, the Associated Press reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/02/trump-climbs-down-on-iran-strikes-after-saudi-alarm-and-threats-from-tehran?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Trump climbs down on Iran strikes after Saudi alarm and threats from Tehran

President claims delay is ‘subject to being able to rapidly make a deal’ as intervention by Saudi crown prince is revealed and Iran warns neighbours

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/02/trump-climbs-down-on-iran-strikes-after-saudi-alarm-and-threats-from-tehran?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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RedTagAlan · 02/08/2026 06:17

On the Four Seasons (Total Landscaping) press conference, lets not forget that is not a lone hiccup. There was also a bit of a major fuckup in the Lone Star state, when he went to the wrong Alamo.

"Clearly, Trump and his sycophants view themselves as the last bastion of white America and have co-opted the Alamo imagery for their own purposes. But being Team Trump, they completely bungled their message by going to the wrong Alamo. Trump and company are headed to the city of Alamo, Texas. The actual Alamo Mission, however, is located in San Antonio, TX. Great work, everyone."

Trump Goes To the Wrong Alamo in Metaphor for His Presidency | The Mary Sue

Its only a 225 mile error.

Oh no. When I was looking for a link for that story, I found a transcript of the speech he made there, at the wrong Alamo.. This is Jan 12th 2021. So for anyone saying he has recently deteriorated, we can have a look.

Donald Trump Alamo, TX, Speech Transcript 1/12 | Rev

Take it away Don. Dazzle us :-)

"Many of you are friends from all of the work we did in designing the wall. We got it exactly as you wanted it, everything including your protective plate on top"

Nice wall. Did you finish it ? Tell us more about the design first though.

"I say, "Why did we put that?" And they said, "We need it for extra protection, climb plate," and we have everything you want. It's steel, it's concrete inside the steel, and then it's rebar, a lot of heavy rebar in side the concrete, and it's as strong as you're going to get and strong as you can have, but we gave you a 100% of what you wanted, so now you have no excuses."

Want some dressing for that salad don ? I heard Tesco have "4 seasons salad dressing" on special just now.

" We're joined together to celebrate a great achievement, the extraordinarily successful building of the wall on the Southern border."

Yeah yeah. Sod the wall. you never finished it. Let's talk politics

"Before we begin, I'd like to say that free speech is under assault like never before."

Cool. What is the very next thing you say Don...

"The 25th Amendment is of zero risk to me but will come back to haunt Joe Biden and the Biden Administration."

Oh. That's a big pivot. Is there a doctor in the house ?

"And now, I'd like to briefly address the events of last week. Millions of our citizens watched on Wednesday as a mob stormed the Capitol and trashed the halls of government. "

Mob ? What Mob?... checks notes.. ah Jan 6th 2021. Less than a week before this speech.

"As I have consistently said throughout my administration, we believe in respecting America's history and traditions, not tearing them down. We believe in the rule of law, not in violence or rioting."

Pardon ?

Tell us more about this mob ?

"Because of the pandemic, horrible, horrible, invisible enemy, and despite our tremendous success developing a vaccine years before it was thought even remotely possible ... Nobody thought it was going to be possible. They said it would take five years. "Sir, it will take seven years." All of our scientists were saying, our advisers, "It will seven years, five years, 10 years, maybe." Well, we did it just like I said we would, and we had it out years and years before they thought it was possible, and we're now delivering it to states, including your state, where your governor and government are doing a terrific job in getting it administered in Texas. "

Another total pivot. This guy can never keep on subject. He has always been the same. And any anti-vaxers out there take note. It was Trump done it, or so he claims. He did then anyway.

Oh, here is a cherry I picked from later on in this speech:

" The laws that Congress passed must be upheld."

We all agree Donald. We all agree.

Trump Goes To the Wrong Alamo in Metaphor for His Presidency | The Mary Sue

Donald Trump went to Alamo, Texas instead of the Alamo in San Antonio because he is deeply stupid.

https://www.themarysue.com/donald-trump-wrong-alamo/

Justsaynonow · 02/08/2026 06:17

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2026 18:27

"I don't want free healthcare"

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0fsz9yC680E

That is horrifying. And yet he gets to vote...

RedTagAlan · 02/08/2026 05:19

Spandauer · 01/08/2026 18:06

Another one off the Christmas card list.

"There may have been some contractor difficulty,............!"

Hang on a moment.

We told you already on these threads Don, you should have gone to .....

att.

The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168
The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168
The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168
SerendipityJane · 01/08/2026 18:22

Spandauer · 01/08/2026 18:06

Another one off the Christmas card list.

Is he suggesting she lied to the court ?

Thank goodness those fusty ol' judges live in the past. Imagine if they were aware of Trumps statements and referred to them in judgements !

Spandauer · 01/08/2026 18:06

Another one off the Christmas card list.

The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168
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SerendipityJane · 01/08/2026 17:51

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 17:50

Yes, that's why we are using it about Trump.

You misunderstand.

It seems Trump is using it about Trump

The Reaper Should Have Gone To SpecSavers - Trump Thread #168
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 17:50

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2026 17:39

Isn't proclamation what kings do ?

Yes, that's why we are using it about Trump.

SerendipityJane · 01/08/2026 17:39

RedTagAlan · 01/08/2026 17:31

Morrocco eh ?

I made a post about that place a few weeks ago. Right after this was announced. And no foil hat needed to know how transational Trump is. If he gives anything, even if it is for something he needs, he always wants something more.

Declaration of Emergency and Authorization for Temporary Duty Free Importation of Phosphate Fertilizer Morocco – The White House

Isn't proclamation what kings do ?

RedTagAlan · 01/08/2026 17:31

Grandmistress991 · 01/08/2026 16:41

Just watched a tiktok that reportsit was US influence on Morrocco ( who recently named a.road after thrump) was the reason for the sudden release of immigrants into europe because fatty trump didn't like the stance Spain had taken in relation to trumps war. (Ceuta).

Heartened to see FIFA, and by extension the trump mafia have been thwarted. Well done UEFA !!

Morrocco eh ?

I made a post about that place a few weeks ago. Right after this was announced. And no foil hat needed to know how transational Trump is. If he gives anything, even if it is for something he needs, he always wants something more.

Declaration of Emergency and Authorization for Temporary Duty Free Importation of Phosphate Fertilizer Morocco – The White House

Declaration of Emergency and Authorization for Temporary Duty Free Importation of Phosphate Fertilizer Morocco

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION 1.  Fertilizers are an essential component of agriculture and food production.  Producers Every child deserves a safe and nurturing home where they can learn, grow, and reach their full po...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/declaration-of-emergency-and-authorization-for-temporary-duty-free-importation-of-phosphate-fertilizer-morocco/

Grandmistress991 · 01/08/2026 16:41

Just watched a tiktok that reportsit was US influence on Morrocco ( who recently named a.road after thrump) was the reason for the sudden release of immigrants into europe because fatty trump didn't like the stance Spain had taken in relation to trumps war. (Ceuta).

Heartened to see FIFA, and by extension the trump mafia have been thwarted. Well done UEFA !!

walllaw · 01/08/2026 16:03

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 13:57

Is that why the proclamation says it's ok to import from Australia: they've banned making it, so they won't be exporting it?

Maybe they have surplus stock of slabs languishing, since it's the delivery and installation that's banned?

RedTagAlan · 01/08/2026 14:46

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 13:48

Is there a single person in the entire world who believes Trump had anything to do with that, or even knew it was being promulgated with his name under it? "I" this and that, phooey. He wouldn't be able to read all the way through it without getting a nosebleed.

That he wrote it no. My money is he was being told about the costings for his projects. He said "phone someone and get the price down, give them anything they want to get the cost down". And bobs yer uncle.

In a few weeks he will be boasting about how his ballroom has the best 10 million year rated granite.

walllaw · 01/08/2026 13:58

SerendipityJane · 31/07/2026 17:19

You mean he isn't a big enough prick as it is ?

And I relent slightly because that was actually funny.

Adding: True story - one of my siblings was posted to a far flung embassy and when they had dignitaries visit, people used to jockey to be part of the team. When Paul visited, they were basically having to offer significant bribes and threats to get people to host. Let's say, there was some quiet sympathy for his neighbour at the time.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 13:57

walllaw · 01/08/2026 13:52

Isn't that the stuff that Australia has banned because the fabricators all die of a terrible lung disease from the silica?

https://www.crb-gmbh.com/en/newspost/banned-quartz-composite-countertops-australia?srsltid=AfmBOoqC9tDo97RsXYUiYcymI3xwuMwCg-sUTFI9XhOoJ6VS0sSs1Xfu

Is that why the proclamation says it's ok to import from Australia: they've banned making it, so they won't be exporting it?

walllaw · 01/08/2026 13:57

The reflecting pool thing is an absolute debacle for them. Apparently the dismissal is full of inter-governmental blame and finger pointing. I'd love to see how Fox News covers this (although not willing to subject myself to it to find out).

walllaw · 01/08/2026 13:52

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 13:48

Is there a single person in the entire world who believes Trump had anything to do with that, or even knew it was being promulgated with his name under it? "I" this and that, phooey. He wouldn't be able to read all the way through it without getting a nosebleed.

Isn't that the stuff that Australia has banned because the fabricators all die of a terrible lung disease from the silica?

https://www.crb-gmbh.com/en/newspost/banned-quartz-composite-countertops-australia?srsltid=AfmBOoqC9tDo97RsXYUiYcymI3xwuMwCg-sUTFI9XhOoJ6VS0sSs1Xfu

Australia bans quartz composite countertops

In this article, we will look at what makes quartz composite so dangerous and whether a ban in Germany is also to be expected.

https://www.crb-gmbh.com/en/newspost/banned-quartz-composite-countertops-australia?srsltid=AfmBOoqC9tDo97RsXYUiYcymI3xwuMwCg-sUTFI9XhOoJ6VS0sSs1Xfu

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/08/2026 13:48

RedTagAlan · 01/08/2026 05:28

Here is a really strange one. A Trump proclamation about.... QUARTZ SURFACE PRODUCTS.

What on earth. Why is POTUS doing this. And well, a bit of reading up on it, and it turns out the US folk dealing with this stuff want controls on imports. Protectionism. Fair enough. But why POTUS I wondered.

Ahh. Engineered rock. And guess who is likely the biggest buyer of decorative engineered rock in the US these days ? He wants his stuff cheap, so give the companies that deal with it what they want.

To Facilitate Positive Adjustment to Competition from Imports of Quartz Surface Products – The White House

Is there a single person in the entire world who believes Trump had anything to do with that, or even knew it was being promulgated with his name under it? "I" this and that, phooey. He wouldn't be able to read all the way through it without getting a nosebleed.