Just heard on BBC Radio 4 re Stonewall

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WhereYouLeftIt Mon 24-May-21 07:52:11

"Stonewall has today launched it's new four year strategy amid ongoing scrutiny for its stance on transgender rights. Over the weekend one of its founders described the LGBT campaign group's views as "extreme" and said it put them at odds with feminists, while the Equalities watchdog withdrew from the charity's diversity scheme. Stonewall described the attacks on the scheme as "threadbare" and has promised to call out transphobia more actively in the future."

This was at about 07.34 on the Today programme.

I sat there shocked at the lack of spin.

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 Mon 24-May-21 07:53:48

Hmmm, it minimised the issue at Essex university though - missed out saying it was a legal challenge.

Diaryofamadwoman Mon 24-May-21 07:54:19

Heard this and couldn't believe it!

CigarsofthePharoahs Mon 24-May-21 07:58:43

So they're doubling down? I'm not surprised.

WhereYouLeftIt Mon 24-May-21 08:00:33

Well it didn't even mention that at all @Ritasueandbobtoo9! But, bulletins at this point in the morning tend to be very short, so I'm not reading too much into that. By even mentioning criticism of Stonewall and not just wittering on about their new four year programme - from the BBC, that's unexpected.

I wonder if later they'll expand the coverage, or sweep it back under the rug.

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Toseland Mon 24-May-21 08:42:23

What’s the 4 year strategy? Are primary schools the focus as I think was mentioned a few months ago? We need to stop their teachings in schools ASAP. I’m so worried about this.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g Mon 24-May-21 08:51:02

I was astounded that this also featured in the very brief news bulletin at 8am on Radio 3. This indicates as far as I can see that it's not just an item the Today Programme is going to cover in more detail, BBC News has decided it's one of the main topics of the day. Gosh.

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WineAcademy Mon 24-May-21 08:55:26

Toseland

What’s the 4 year strategy? Are primary schools the focus as I think was mentioned a few months ago? We need to stop their teachings in schools ASAP. I’m so worried about this.

Ah, yes, I seem to remember a while back that they were offering free training to schools in specific postcodes, which in turn ended up being in more deprived areas of the country. Curious.

Paralithic Mon 24-May-21 09:05:43

The EHRC’s withdrawal from the Stonewall scheme was covered on The World This Weekend on Sunday. The phrases “[EHRC] refused to renew its membership” and “[Stonewall gave] incorrect and potentially illegal advice” were used smile

Listen from 4.10 minutes in to catch the segment:

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000wc0h

ScreamingMeMe Mon 24-May-21 09:11:39

shock

I do wonder if the EHRC's withdrawal will prompt others, who might have been too afraid of the backlash before.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:14:36

But they launched their 5 year strategy in 2017 - surely they should still be working on that? confused

www.stonewall.org.uk/news/five-year-plan-launched-trans-equality-britain

MarshaBradyo Mon 24-May-21 09:16:34

It was good to hear

Floisme Mon 24-May-21 09:22:49

The BBC news TV channel had a slot on the EHRC withdrawal yesterday evening, around 8pm-ish. John Mcmanus covered it - he had about 5 minutes and he got in The University of Essex debacle and Maya Forstater's case. I can't remember who the newscaster was but he didn't ask a single question and looked kind of relieved when it was over grin

ScreamingMeMe Mon 24-May-21 09:32:56

ItsAllGoingToBeFine

But they launched their 5 year strategy in 2017 - surely they should still be working on that? confused

www.stonewall.org.uk/news/five-year-plan-launched-trans-equality-britain

They need a new strategy thanks to us meddling women grin

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:33:45

Their new strategy is here:

www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-strategy-free-to-be

Unlike their old strategy this one apparently does not solely focus on the T... Off to read properly.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:35:00

Hmm, they've added queer, questioning and ace to the LGBT.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:37:23

Freedom: conversion therapy ban, changes to hate crime/hate speech laws, better guidelines for asylum claims, easily changed ID documents including non binary identities

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:39:23

Equity: trans healthcare, people of colour, people of faith, create evidence base, support across lives - children and elder care.

GCAcademic Mon 24-May-21 09:40:14

Of course they're doubling down. Their raison-d'etre is now their own jobs and survival. The new strategy seems to be to change the law to stop people criticising them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:40:34

Potential: empowerment programmes, school programmes, workplace programmes, sport Inclusion, pride.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:41:00

And they've changed their logo

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Mon 24-May-21 09:42:32

And ditched acceptance without exception for free to be.

Wonder how much the rebrand cost...

MnaWomanIreland Mon 24-May-21 09:53:36

Thanks for these snippets @ItsAllGoingToBeFine

NotBadConsidering Mon 24-May-21 10:02:22

ItsAllGoingToBeFine

But they launched their 5 year strategy in 2017 - surely they should still be working on that? confused

www.stonewall.org.uk/news/five-year-plan-launched-trans-equality-britain

5 years is 4 years, no debate. Bigot.

SapphosRock Mon 24-May-21 10:06:32

ItsAllGoingToBeFine

And ditched acceptance without exception for free to be.

Wonder how much the rebrand cost...


'Free to be' is much better.

Acceptance without exception looked like they were deliberately opposing the exceptions in the Equality Act that are in place to protect women. Such as it being lawful for women's rape crisis workers to be female.

It was a pretty dodgy slogan.

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