Women's and Equalities - inquiry into the Reform of the Gender Recognition Act

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Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 14:42:04

Live now for anyone interested:

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/6436ad0d-508d-4208-97da-a39a913a254c

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Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 14:53:54

Mermaids et al are arguing to de-medicalise the process of obtaining a GRC. i.e wanting to remove the requirement for people to be experiencing distress.

Another speaker has said that obtaining a GRC should not be a trivial matter and the legal process needs to be robust.

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highame Wed 17-Mar-21 14:59:31

Got on the right side of the Secretariat???? what does that mean. I think it means that someone trans has direct links to the board (well the admin) who look at issuing GRC

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:01:32

Looking for three months but has also said something about spousal veto and looking for a period of reflection - appalling

and now non-binary

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:03:22

Conversion therapy now - that it is trans people BAME suffering most

Voteinvain Wed 17-Mar-21 15:05:45

I know the legal bod from Mermaids who are the other 2?

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:08:06

Has said Spousal consent particularly offensive, Should be a conversation, well Tinsel bet that's pleasing. Consent at moment is hostage taking. I am getting so bloody angry

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Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 15:09:09

Voteinvain

I know the legal bod from Mermaids who are the other 2?

Cat Burton: www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-47803416

Jane Hamlin: www.beaumontsociety.org.uk/meet-our-people.html

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OvaHere Wed 17-Mar-21 15:10:04

highame

Has said Spousal consent particularly offensive, Should be a conversation, well Tinsel bet that's pleasing. Consent at moment is hostage taking. I am getting so bloody angry

They consistently misrepresent what Spousal consent means in practice.

Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 15:11:06

highame

Has said Spousal consent particularly offensive, Should be a conversation, well Tinsel bet that's pleasing. Consent at moment is hostage taking. I am getting so bloody angry

Agreed.

The argument seems to be it's ok for the trans person to change the terms of the marriage but it's not ok for the other party to object.

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Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 15:12:22

highame

Got on the right side of the Secretariat???? what does that mean. I think it means that someone trans has direct links to the board (well the admin) who look at issuing GRC

Blatant admission of improper practice taking place.

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Leafstamp Wed 17-Mar-21 15:14:07

Anyone know who "Ben" is?

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highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:15:13

Don't know who it is on the panel and want to know because then you can nobble them!!!!!!! A panel of strangers - of course they bloody are

Voteinvain Wed 17-Mar-21 15:15:24

Thanks for those links Leafstamp

jeaux90 Wed 17-Mar-21 15:16:24

Did Nancy just say that abuse mainly happens within Cis gender relationships? Like there is no coercive control going on here? I'm a bit shock

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:19:07

OOhhh naughty - nice little earner for the judges. Lets attack everyone and undermine their credibility. Just little niggles that get underneath the skin

Changemusthappen Wed 17-Mar-21 15:19:58

Listening. I just can't believe that someone who climbed up the ranks of BA and become a pilot as a man thinks they can then say they are a woman AND then BA sends this person to schools to speak to girls about becoming a pilot. Do these people really think our young people are stupid?

Anyway, I notice 'sex' is mentioned, just feeling the gender you are, sigh.

Changemusthappen Wed 17-Mar-21 15:20:18

sorry 'sex' ISN'T mentioned

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:20:21

No panel, no nothing, just some tick boxes. Nightmare! In other words lets just have self-id with a bit of paperwork

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown Wed 17-Mar-21 15:21:18

Thanks for the heads up. Listening now.

jeaux90 Wed 17-Mar-21 15:21:53

Nancy lies about the legislation again. It's not gender identity.

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:22:26

Remove women's rights is what they want. Ben Bradshaw asking about conflict with women's rights.

Don't advocate for removal of sex. Bar is very high to exclude transwomen

Changemusthappen Wed 17-Mar-21 15:29:35

FFS - if you make a fuss if trans woman is in the ladies you are breaking the law.

All women are affected by a man using single sex facilities.

highame Wed 17-Mar-21 15:29:38

Women's spaces being discussed and that people have been saying transwomen unsafe. Saying they aren't and only one study. Saying age matters? Older trans people more likely to offend but the younger ones don't have criminal convictions. Low level criminal actions because they weren't in mainstream - who the hell is she. Trans inclusive can work extremely well.

Boy are they being polite! EA2010 important part of overall conversation. Talks to police trainees - they all do. Apparently - did you know that just going in for a pee doesn't commit any offence but a cic (forgive me) woman raising a fuss is committing a crime?????

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown Wed 17-Mar-21 15:30:27

I'm interested in the fact that they all seem to be denying that Stonewall et al are trying to remove sex exemptions.

Its written on their damn website:
www.stonewall.org.uk/women-and-equalities-select-committee-inquiry-transgender-equality

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