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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Susie Green writing healthcare guidelines for pre-pubescent children

21 replies

PalatineUvula · 07/04/2019 22:51

"She is currently involved in writing care guidelines for prepubescent children as a member of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health."

www.hsj.co.uk/comment/the-bedpan-gps-are-scared--i-dont-blame-them/7024816.article

The worrying thing is not so much her views but the fact I've seen her on tv discussing her child's care, and she doesnt have any sort of healthcare knowledge at all. Not even an informed amateur's level, she has nothing. What are her qualifications ?

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ILoveMaxiBondi · 07/04/2019 22:57

This person has absolutely no business advising anyone on healthcare of any sort let alone prepubescent children! I cannot believe any health authority would give her very clear agenda an ounce of validity! Words fail! Angry

Redshoeblueshoe · 07/04/2019 23:03

If I posted what I thought I think I'd get banned, but thank you for posting

ZebrasAreBras · 07/04/2019 23:03

Good god Angry

"I took my child to the US for puberty blockers and hormones at 13/14 (?) and for a sex change op in Thailand at 16 - therefore it's the right thing to do. I will validate my actions."

Right Susie?

DubbleBabble · 07/04/2019 23:04

What is the HSJ? Is it mainstream/respected? Never heard of it but that article is sympathetic & uncritical.

boatyardblues · 07/04/2019 23:07

HSJ = Health Services Journal, for professional services-type managers in the NHS. Donkeys years ago I worked in an NHS trust and we had a subscription for the department. It was not a ripping read, but our managers liked it.

wrathofVitriolKlop · 07/04/2019 23:14

Health Services Journal is for the managers in the health care professions.

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2019 23:15

Why is a non-clinician doing this in an area with next to no research?

wrathofVitriolKlop · 07/04/2019 23:17

For the NHS

wrathofVitriolKlop · 07/04/2019 23:19

That comment was added to my own comment, not Reds.

wrathofVitriolKlop · 07/04/2019 23:22

Red
Why is a non-clinician doing this in an area with next to no research

Why indeed.

GeordieGenes · 07/04/2019 23:53

Absolutely terrifying. I know that we have a shortage of health professionals, but really?

Whatisthisfuckery · 08/04/2019 00:06

A woman who took her child abroad for hormone treatment because they were under age in the UK, then took her child abroad for genital surgery, which again, they were too young for in the UK, which in turn caused an entire country to change its laws so such a thing could never happen again, and who has no medical qualifications whatsoever is a good person to be advising the NHS on prepubescent healthcare is she?

R0wantrees · 08/04/2019 00:43

important current thread with links to four Times articles highlighting serious Safeguarding & Duty of Care issues concerning the treatment of children questioning their gender identity issues. The roles played by GIDS Tavistock, Mermaids, GIRES & Gendered Intelligence are criticised by medical professionals:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3553935-Times-article-calls-to-end-transgender-experiment-on-children

VaggieMight · 08/04/2019 01:02

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This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at poster's request.

Sunshineofleith · 08/04/2019 01:55

Due to the fact that I might get deleted for my views on the ceo, I just want to say that the desire to take gender identity disorder out of psychiatric realms and put it into the the hands of the public means anyone of us can have an opinion.
My opinion is thus valid and my opinion should be heard if we no longer trust professionals to help us provide unbiased, scientific research.
I’m a mum like SG. I have a different perspective. Why is my perspective not allowed to be told? Is it only an affirmative approach that should be heard ? Why is such an approach be the only one to be heard and accepted.? I really don’t understand why I’m wrong and SG is right. We are both mothers. My parenting advocates time, experience, a lived life. SG advocates an alternative. Different perspectives that might seem equally valid. My perspective sadly is not allowed to be voiced.

Carowiththegoodhair · 08/04/2019 02:19

That’s exactly the same point I was going to raise Sunshine

I’ve birthed & breastfed 5 children for over a year apiece. Can I now have an advisory role writing midwifery & breastfeeding guidelines for the NHS and other interested parties and stakeholders. I have no actual clinical experience but my own lived one. Isn’t that how this works?

Sunshineofleith · 08/04/2019 02:38

Yep. You are an expert. In fact I really do think you are an expert. I have had midwifes who aren’t parents trying to preach to me about breastfeeding and when I struggled they tried to say I don’t love my child cause if I did my milk would flow. They forgot I give birth at 30 weeks and my body was not primed for it or able to deal with the shock. Thankfully a midwife who had kids told me the difficult I was experiencing a result of a child born too early and stress. As a mum of 5, I would take your expertise over a non parent, non breastfeeding mum.

CallMeWoman · 08/04/2019 04:15

Lived experience is the most important ingredient when advising professional, regulatory bodies.

NameChangeForTheNewYear · 08/04/2019 07:09

I assume she also has skills in working independently and as part of a team

Oh, that made me smile.

butteryellow · 08/04/2019 09:11

World Professional Association for Transgender Health

That's a bit weasily isn't it - 'Professional'

I mean, in normal understanding, you'd think that meant people in the association would have to be relevant professionals, like solicitors, or barristers, engineers, or charter surveyors, doctors, nurses etc. all have professional bodies they are members of.

How very misleading to use that word, but not actually require anything to join.

wrathofVitriolKlop · 08/04/2019 09:43

Absolutely terrifying. I know that we have a shortage of health professionals, but really
This journal is aimed at the health professional managers, team leaders, all those people in 'middle management' roles.

These people are the puppets of the bigger picture.
They are overstretched but they have been signing policies and not reading them.

They are instructed to make sure all their staff participate in diversity awareness (mandatory) training.

Yet they are overstretched.

the desire to take gender identity disorder out of psychiatric realm

I believe this has come from the World Health Organisation where they have reclassified Gender Dysphoria as no longer a mental health issue.
The reclassification of diseases is Important here. It will change the course of statistical reports.

There must be a significance to this official change as it alters the treatment pathway.

Sorry I don't have a reference to this, I read about it last year.

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