Attention! Draft new sex and relationships education guidelines

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dinodora Thu 19-Jul-18 17:17:57

Earlier this year there was a consultation on the current sex and relationships education guidance which I think hadn't changed since 2000 (I think!)

It's so important that these are 'got right' for our children for such a range of reasons.

I've not read it yet but I know many will be interested to see what the guidance is.

BBC report:
Parents set to lose right to veto sex education at age 15


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dinodora Thu 19-Jul-18 19:26:34

Bump smile

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ToeToToe Thu 19-Jul-18 20:14:38

I'll have a read later OP.

At my DS's school, this week the yr9s seem to be having a whole day on LGBT issues - which would be fine, if it weren't for the trans ideology taking over such things, and telling them scientific untruths.

I would very much like to find out the content of these lessons before I consent to my son attending - if it's a load of unscientific clap trap about women can have penises too, then NO.

Lefthanddown Thu 19-Jul-18 20:37:20

Just had a quick scan through, it seems reasonable. Though if your teaching children about boundaries, privacy and safety, on one hand I'm not sure how those schools that are implementing gender neutral toilets, essentially over riding girls boundaries and privacy without consulting girls/parents are able to justify it to themselves

57. Through Relationships Education (and RSE), schools can help prevent abuse
and protect children, by teaching the knowledge they need to be safe and to
report abuse, including emotional, physical and sexual abuse. For example, in
primary schools, this can be done by focusing on boundaries and privacy,
ensuring young people are taught that they have rights over their own bodies
and know how to report concerns or seek advice.

Vickyyyy Thu 19-Jul-18 20:43:29

At my DS's school, this week the yr9s seem to be having a whole day on LGBT issues - which would be fine, if it weren't for the trans ideology taking over such things, and telling them scientific untruths.

DSDs school had one of these not long ago. She says homosexuality/bisexuality were barely even covered at all and it was 95% all about trans issues. Which is not surprising given how things are recently hmm

Gentlygently Thu 19-Jul-18 21:53:44

The bit on supporting menstruating girls seems v sensible, and one would have thought it precluded unisex toilets......

enoughisenough12 Thu 19-Jul-18 22:08:14

Have had a quick scan of it and liked what I read. Of course, despite knowing that sex is a protected characteristic the guidelines then use the word 'gender' throughout.
And yes, I noticed the same point Lefthanddown. It does give schools some ammunition to counter the 'gender neutral toilets' & 'mixed sex changing' lobby groups.
As of course does the DfE guidance which highlights that schools MUST provide single sex toilets and washing facilities for all pupils over the age of 8 - link for anyone who needs it.

ToeToToe Fri 20-Jul-18 07:37:59

As of course does the DfE guidance which highlights that schools MUST provide single sex toilets and washing facilities for all pupils over the age of 8

I wasn't aware of this.

My DS attends a secondary which is in a new-build school - built in 2016. All the toilets are gender-neutral. I've just checked with him.

How has a new-build school flout this, I wonder?

ToeToToe Fri 20-Jul-18 07:41:32

Actually, it's a free school, so I bet that's why they have been able to flout it.

It's a fantastic school, so I'm not about to kick up a fuss. I'm just hmm about girls dealing with periods when they are sharing toilets with the boys. I would've hated that.

R0wantrees Fri 20-Jul-18 08:26:51

Important to read Redtoothbrush's comments from end of thread:


Red wrote:
"I have another parliamentary statement for you today.

Women & Equalities Committee @Commonswomequ
In 2016 we reported on widespread sexual harassment of girls at school. Today our Chair @MariaMillerUK welcomes draft guidance for schools on Relationships and Sex Education to tackle this and says schools shouldn't wait to act on children's safety.
Reaction to draft guidance on relationships and health education in schools

Commenting on new plans published today by Education Secretary Damian Hinds, Chair of the Women and Equalities Committee, Maria Miller MP, said:

"The publication of the draft Relationships and Sex Education guidance is very welcome as a critical step forwards for children’s safety.

It follows our report on Sexual harassment and sexual violence in schools in 2016 which found that school is not a safe or equal learning environment for many children, especially girls.

Those working at the grassroots have known this for many years and it is positive that the Government is now starting to listen.

I would urge schools to start implementing the new RSE guidance as soon as is practicable and not wait until it is in force.

In addition, new safeguarding guidance on sexual violence will be in place this September so schools should prioritise making sure that their policies and procedures clearly address sexual harassment and sexual violence, and the culture that underpins them.

All children have the right to grow and learn in a safe and supportive environment.”

DfE @educationgovuk
All #schools will teach #children about good physical and #mentalhealth, how to stay safe on & offline, and the importance of healthy relationships under bold new plans published today by #Education Secretary @DamianHinds #RSE

Important point
The new guidance has been developed in response to a national call for evidence earlier this year and includes topics like mental wellbeing, consent, keeping safe online, physical health and fitness and LGBT issues. It will now be subject to a further 12-week consultation on the content and how the subjects are taught.


**Another 12 week consultation period over how children are taught about LGBT and consent issues*** "

R0wantrees Fri 20-Jul-18 08:43:13

see recent thread:

dinodora Fri 20-Jul-18 10:55:39

Thanks for highlighting that @R0wantrees.

I've only skimmed myself but noticed the sex and gender conflation.

I will contribute to the consultation and highlight the need to teach the difference between sex and gender.

I also noticed they referred to "gender reassignment" rather than identity; given you need to be a certain age to be 'reassigned' (I assume they mean surgery/ hormones etc) it seems like there isn't too much room for 'identifying as' situations.

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Ekphrasis Tue 24-Jul-18 08:02:10


IHateHouseworkWithAPassion Mon 22-Oct-18 23:15:48

Bumping this.

Deadline for completing this is 7 November.

Go on, you know you want to!

franke Tue 23-Oct-18 08:22:39

I had a quick look at this last night.
"Pupils should be taught the facts and the law about sex, sexuality, sexual health and gender identity in an age-appropriate and inclusive way". There's a lot of talk in the draft guidelines about teaching the "facts". What are the facts? Where do they come from?

I'd like to respond to this consultation but feel a bit ill-equipped. But my gut feeling is this is an important one.

qumquat Tue 23-Oct-18 08:40:57

Another consultation on my to do list!

I'm a teacher and I'm on a committee to review and develop these 'Agenda' resources for schools which are from Wales but going to be issued across England as well. I'm pretty terrified of going to the meeting as I know it will be very 'woke'. I thought here might be a good thread to ask for advice on how to share my thoughts on the 'Rotifer Project' (page 51-53) in a way that will be listened to. It also links to classics such as the gender unicorn and clownfish.

borntobequiet Tue 23-Oct-18 09:32:30


ifonlyus Tue 06-Nov-18 22:17:48

Bumping this as the deadline is 11:45pm tomorrow (7 November)

Tonight I read [[ End Violence Against Women Coalition's criticism about the current proposals.

ifonlyus Tue 06-Nov-18 22:19:21

Try again here is the link

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