In the news- another heartbreaking DV incident

[shakeyourcaboose]

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/violent-predator-who-abused-teenage-12777210

What a tragic, horrible story. How Oxford Brookes can offer this man a place l do not know, or am I wrong and he's 'done his time'?

[shakeyourcaboose]

Sorry how do you make a link?
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/violent-predator-who-abused-teenage-12777210

[shakeyourcaboose]

In case anyone does read l don't think have given an appropriate title so have reported to ask for it to be changed.

[Popchyk]

How can he have done his time?

He hasn't done any time at all. Despite choking her and beating her.

He gets to start over again at another university weeks after his conviction. And she is dead.

[Norther]

I'm not advocating violence, this is pure fantasy, but I often dream of a female hit squad going round culling nasty guys like this.

The most upsetting thing about this is not that there are evil, violent abusers out there, it's that I know there will be females around him who, on being made aware of his background, will make excuses for him or say he deserves a second chance. There is only one thing standing in the way of female liberation and that is other women. If we had widespread solidarity we would achieve all our aims. We live in a patriarchy for the simple reason that men support other men much better than women support other women. Sigh.

[shakeyourcaboose]

I know @popchyk- it's enraging, but just know there will be the apologists who come on spouting the rubbish about him being made to leave Aberdeen. I'm just so incensed l don't think lve made much sense.

[shakeyourcaboose]

Even after being expelled he had the bloody arrogance to turn up at a university ball.

[Ineedacupofteadesperately]

Shame on Oxford Brookes. They can't have done a risk assessment or he wouldn't have got a place. He admitted domestic violence. What would a man have to do before they'd exclude them? Shocking. When are women and girls going to be protected?

[rollingonariver]

Devastating. And the cycle continues.

[Popchyk]

How awful that he was made to leave Aberdeen.

I'm sure he'd prefer to be dead. Not.

[shakeyourcaboose]

Emily's texts to her friends are just so sad and indicative of the gaslighting shit that evil like this guy perpetuate. She is telling them of his violence and that he had strangled her but that it was her fault, absolutely shame on Oxford Brookes. Although l also wonder if his family background had a helping hand?

[FloralBunting]

"Supervision order". Pointless load of old guff. It's more worthwhile the newspapers keeping a beady eye than the authorities, lawful or university.
How tiresome that it still needs to be the case that people have to go through press to highlight this sort of thing? I'm a staunch believer in the necessity of a free press, and when you see this sort of story, I think it really highlights the useful work journalism does.

[QuarksandLeptons]

Why is violence against women not punished? How could a judge find that this sadistic, violent man wasn’t eligible for any jail time?

Agree that Oxford Brookes have made a massive cock up with giving this abuser a place at their university where he has access to abuse women.

[SciFiFan2015]

I wonder how much his current status at the University has anything to do with the fact he's a "direct descendant of Scots philanthropist Andrew Carnegie"?
Is he from a wealthy family still? Well connected? Influential?

[shakeyourcaboose]

His grandfather was Jim Milligan apparently a well respected judge, so yes connections.

[LassWiADelicateAir]

Angus Milligan is the grandson of the late Lord Milligan, a Scottish judge. I was vaguely friendly with his aunt many years ago although haven't seen her for years. I don't know which of Lord Milligan's children is Angus Milligan's father.

www.scotsman.com/news/obituaries/jim-milligan-1-740481

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4692006/amp/Angus-Milligan-avoids-jail-Emily-Drouet-death.html

[thebewilderness]

There is only one thing standing in the way of female liberation and that is other women.

1st rule of misogyny: Women are responsible for what men do.

[LassWiADelicateAir]

There is only one thing standing in the way of female liberation and that is other women

This is a tragic case. A glib little soundbite like that is deeply insulting to Emily and her family and friends. The bullying was carried out by Angus Milligan. There also seems to be inadequate pastoral care at Aberdeen University.

[MinaPaws]

What is the full story here? The papers all say she broke it off with him, he visited her and 'minutes later' she was dead by suicide. That seems very odd.

[Norther]

Lass
It wasn't glib. For heavens sake. It was a remark of frustration that we have the power to stop all this if only all women could be made aware we need to work together. And I know how impossible that is and that's why I sighed. Also absolutely NOWHERE did i say women were responsible for men's wrongdoing - just that women could stop it if we showed as much solidarity for each others wellbeing as men show solidarity for other men's wrongdoing. But yeah misunderstand me if you must.

[LassWiADelicateAir]

But yeah misunderstand me if you must

For once I agree with thebewilderness "rules of misogyny".

Tbh I think your follow up explanation makes what you said worse.

[Norther]

Bewilderness Lass

Cool.

[Trishtrash]

This case was appalling. His very well connected parents got him the very best lawyers and he was whisked away to some huge fucking family estate in Scotland to lie low. That poor, poor girl. I am glad his face has been plastered over the papers because he must feel invincible. Parents able to pull strings and smooth the way and do damage limitation so that no shit stuck to him. I was sickened at the time and I’m sickened now. How proud his parents must be and goes out there and the risk is there that he’s going to behave in a similarly nasty way to some other girl. Because he’s got away with it before hasn’t he? Be interested to see whether this thread is ‘disappeared’ - hope not.

[LauderSyme]

But Norther women wouldn't need to work together to stop all this if men weren't doing it to us in the first place, would we? The notion that women rather than men are perpetuating the patriarchy is laughable.

[LassWiADelicateAir]

The most upsetting thing about this is not that there are evil, violent abusers out there, it's that I know there will be females around him who, on being made aware of his background, will make excuses for him or say he deserves a second chance

There will be people saying that. Women who defend this behaviour are no worse and no better than men who defend it.

There is only one thing standing in the way of female liberation and that is other women. If we had widespread solidarity we would achieve all our aims

This case isn't about female liberation. It has to do with bullying. What on earth has widespread solidarity got to do with it?

The attitude of bullies needs to change- it is not women's responsibility to fix that although it certainly would not go amiss if men were to call out other men's bullying behaviour.

[LassWiADelicateAir]

You make the point rather more succinctly than I did Lauder