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Popchyk Wed 20-Jun-18 12:19:06

I wrote to an email to my Conservative MP yesterday.

Received a letter in the post from the House of Commons this morning. My heart was racing. I thought I'd be summoned to the chambers for wrongthink.

Turns out he agrees with me. He is "extremely concerned" about any changes to the law that allows people to self-identify as the other sex. He is particularly concerned about the safety of women and talked about vulnerable women in prisons and shelters. Also talked about women's sports (which I didn't even address with him).

Also said that he was worried about young people under pressure to identify as transgender.

He said "Should these proposed amendments to the GRA be brought forward, I will not support them".

I won't name him as I don't want the TRAs to hound his office.

But clearly there are some people out there who think exactly the same way we do.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Wed 20-Jun-18 12:20:16

That is excellent news. Hopefully he raises these concerns with his colleagues too.

MsMcWoodle Wed 20-Jun-18 12:21:22

Could do with some good news. Thanks.

Danniz Wed 20-Jun-18 12:27:22

I've also finally had a response from my conservative MP. Not as positive as that, but did say that gender and sex are different and that sex can't be changed. Also that Trans Health are a far left group and that he does not support their manifesto.

boatyardblues Wed 20-Jun-18 12:28:33

It would be good to know whether this a male Tory MP other than David TC Davies, who is already ‘out’ as gender critical.

Popchyk Wed 20-Jun-18 12:37:26

My MP is not David TC Davies.

I don't think my MP is "out" as gender critical. I've googled and can't find anything of that nature.

But I suspect that he might be soon.

Pratchet Wed 20-Jun-18 12:38:46

That's wonderful news

SwearyG Wed 20-Jun-18 12:46:47

Great news!

I think that there are a lot of MPs who do agree with a GC viewpoint, and hope that's why my labour MP is ignoring my letters rather than responding with the standard "pipe down, bigot" response.

It's nice that the message about the potential impact on women and girls is being heard. And that's what this is all about, not being anti-trans, being pro women.

birdbandit Wed 20-Jun-18 12:47:53

Brilliant news.

TerfsUp Wed 20-Jun-18 12:48:38

Excellent news.

TerfsUp Wed 20-Jun-18 12:53:05

I have just emailed my MP to ask him his views on changes to the GRA.

Waddlelikeapenguin Wed 20-Jun-18 13:51:06

Fantastic. Mine has ignored me but as he is Labour I think that is better than the party line!

spontaneousgiventime Wed 20-Jun-18 14:00:01

This is just the kind of news we need. It's another thing that's giving me hope we will beat this cult.

Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar Wed 20-Jun-18 14:04:11

Very hopeful. Possibly a significant number feel the same way, and are just keeping their heads below the parapet to avoid being torn to pieces?

invisibleoldwoman Wed 20-Jun-18 16:01:02

My Conservative MP has not replied to my letter.

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 16:08:26

You may wish to follow up with concerns about the recent assertions that Penny Mordant MP has made.

As she is the Women's & Equalities minister, it is difficult not to conclude that she is not as open to recognising the issues for women and girls when asserting the needs of people who are transgender.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3283616-Penny-Mordaunt-has-made-her-position-at-Women-Equalities-Committee

See previous position held by Maria Miller MP when she was minister for Women & Equalities:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2993425-Maria-Miller-interviewed-by-Janice-Turner-full-text

Terfulike Wed 20-Jun-18 17:58:12

I went to see my MP about this last month Wera Hobson in Bath. She listened to me but was non-committal. She said she has a transgender friend.I suggested she include in her new upskirting bill a crime of taking photos from an adjacent changing room but I don't know if she did.

Kettlepotblackagain Wed 20-Jun-18 18:04:04

That's great news.

My MP is a fairly 'prominent' Tory who is in the Cabinet. I will write to him to ask his views.

HollowTalk Wed 20-Jun-18 18:08:58

It shouldn't matter where the camera is, though, should it? Upskirting is upskirting, no matter where the creep is with his camera.

TeenTimesTwo Wed 20-Jun-18 18:12:36

Hollow I don't think that's the point. The point is additionally taking photos of someone in a cubicle (changing or toilet) should be illegal, especially as things are becoming unisex.

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 18:15:56

Terfulike
I have found it difficult when talking to someone who has a close friend who is transgender to get them to step back slightly and consider for example the impact on girls or women.

this is a good example which may help someone to also consider the needs of women:
inews.co.uk/news/health/nhs-woman-transgender-nurse-smear-test/

and I think Janice Turner's recent question really focuses on the need to think of the girls:,
'Two male-bodied trans gender runners came first and second. What do you say to the girls who train so hard but can never win? Yet can’t even say: this is not fair.'
twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham/status/1004682774920523776

It's really worth watching the clip to the end. Focus on the faces of the girls who come 3rd, 4th & 5th.

You can see by the response to the tweet that this is understood by many people.

Kettlepotblackagain Wed 20-Jun-18 18:19:42

Just emailed my MP, as been meaning to for a while, lets hope I get a response. Let's just say, it will be very interesting given his position in Government....

thebewilderness Wed 20-Jun-18 18:36:36

How does having a transgender friend justify rolling back women's rights?
I do not get it. It is so effing Not my NIGEL.
(NIcest Guy who Ever Lived)
They are all self proclaimed nice guys, until hey are not and then it is too late.

Popchyk Wed 20-Jun-18 18:49:42

I think if you are having difficulty getting the MPs to respond then maybe write back with a specific question. Like:

Are you in favour of allowing male convicted sex offenders to self-identify as women in order to transfer to women's prisons to serve their sentence?

If so, is that the position of the party?

Not because they will answer that question of course, but because it should trigger in their minds how they could answer that question when Andrew Marr or whoever asks it live on TV.

Unfortunately with a lot of MPs we are going to have to appeal to their self-interest in order to get them to educate themselves about the issues. We are going to have to lead the leaders.

R0wantrees Wed 20-Jun-18 18:51:18

thebewilderness
I had a recent conversation with a HCP re my concerns about the conflicting rights in the case of the reported smear test above.

They had a close friend who was a transwoman and it was so strange as they clearly couldn't re-focus on the wider picture and kept asserting some of the TRAs positions we have heard here.

By contrast, I spoke to another friend who is a nurse who screamed when i read the response of the transexual nurse above. She was horrified and imediately said how outrageous this was since in nursing the focus is on the patient. That they often have men (usually older) who are uncomfortable with female nurses in some intimate situations. They (of course) notice this and discreetly try to find an alternative colleague.

My friend also spoke very warmly of her nursing colleague, a trans woman, who is completely respectful and understanding of all patients' needs. She also doesn't use the staff women's loos, changing rooms etc.

Empathy is so important in nursing!

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