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"I have never witnessed anything like the authoritarian, silencing tendency of current trans activism"

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/05/2018 18:26

Good piece about the Oxford WPUK meeting:

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/women-have-every-right-discuss-changes-law-could-affect-them

I witnessed an older Quaker volunteer telling the students that they were disturbing a sexual abuse survivors’ group which happened to be taking place in the building at the same time and the students simply shouted louder to drown out his words.

There was something uniquely obnoxious about a privileged male Oxford student telling women that they didn’t care about sexual abuse survivors and that women need to get back in their box as they had no right to speak.

One said: “You think trans people don’t exist.” When I pointed to my two trans friends who’d attended the meeting and begged to differ, she went back to the cult-like chanting in my face. There was little critical thinking on display, just an unnerving groupthink, coupled with a chilling sense of misplaced righteousness

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ReluctantCamper · 04/05/2018 18:40

yep, I was at that meeting and those protesters had literally no idea what they were protesting about. rather sad really.

brilliant article.

spontaneousgiventime · 04/05/2018 18:44

Excellent article. They are like a load of sheep, as mentioned upthread, they probably had no idea what they were screeching about.

To attack a sexual abuse survivors group is the lowest of the low.

louiseaaa · 04/05/2018 18:46

Thanks for that - I will make my friends aware of this :)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/05/2018 18:47

I had heard about the sexual abuse survivor thing at the time, but had assumed it was referring to women in the WPUK meeting sharing experiences.

I am even more horrified that there was an additional meeting for survivors that was impacted, and that the women had to fighting their way through a horde of howling protesters at the end.

That is really not on.

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KatherinaMinola · 04/05/2018 18:50

Ooh, it's by Rebecca Lush. She's fantastic.

Bowlofbabelfish · 04/05/2018 18:51

Excellent article indeed (and generally i find the morning star far too far left for me.)
I personally think video footage of this chanting/shutdown behaviour needs to be seen more in the wider media. What I’ve seen has been really disturbing.

A nod to the quakers as well.

changeypants · 04/05/2018 19:40

Yes hope the Quakers read this

Sunkisses · 04/05/2018 20:03

"However I was determined that I would not be intimidated from attending a public meeting by bullies in balaclavas". That's exactly how I feel. Bullies have to be stood up to. It's the only way. Please take notice of this @MNHQ and don't give in to the trans bullies like Shon Faye

LaSqrrl · 04/05/2018 23:24

Yes, excellent article - exposing the tactics used against women who want to discuss the impact to the proposed legal changes. Quakers have been historically, more egalitarian towards women.

For all of those that think this is a 'one side vs another side, and both are just as bad' - please point out ANY trans meeting that has ever been protested/disrupted by GC women, and show me when those women intimidated those trans who were meeting. Examples are, exactly zero.

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 23:31

"I have never witnessed anything like the authoritarian, silencing tendency of current trans activism"

I am glad this is the worst they have ever seen.
I have witnessed it all my life from authoritarian white males.
Look around. Look at the media, who have made a sport of it.
Look!

BettyFloop · 05/05/2018 02:06

I've witnessed it all my life too TBW - men (always white) setting the agenda and directing a one sided dialogue - through every means they own - that, obviously, agrees with their agenda and gets them the outcome they want in the end.

Patriarchal capitalism = the most globally oppressive regime white men could ever have ever created (to their own advantage, obviously).

I thought that article was pretty insightful as far as it went. Public consciousness and Class awareness still need to be significantly raised though.

We need a revolution.

MadBadDaddy · 05/05/2018 02:14

bump

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 05/05/2018 06:04

Thank you for linking. Excellent piece.

I wonder if the author would be willing to send this as a letter to the Guardian and the Times?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 05/05/2018 06:39

I feel like I'm in some fucked deja vue - in my uni years I was with the radical left confronting the police specials at menwith hill etc

I grew out of it

Now I find I am back in its heart with this article but this time aligned along with those on the right speaking out for freedom of speech

I know a lot about mind control. What this description of those TRAs accurately captures is those hostaged in a cult orchestrated by social media and identity politics. They will not be reasoned with as they are literally weaponised puppets of the cult leaders. They are extremely dangerous.

Where were the police in all of this? Where are the public order prosecutions? So instead of the police being on the front line against the workers as in Menwith and the Miners Strike, now they are weaponised by withholding their duty of care and abusing by proxy thru taking vexatious complaints against women rights activists seriously - the abuses of choice by most male abusers these days.

it's in what isn't done and isn't said that the most covert hideous harm is perpetrated - being threatened, stalked and beaten up into silence whilst those in law enforcement, who should be intervening, whistle and look the other way

ShackUp · 05/05/2018 12:41

I didn't know about the Oxford WPUK meeting, I might have gone otherwise...

Ardant · 05/05/2018 13:53

Or the Hitler Youth.

Get to the kids early and they'll be the zealots.

Sunkisses · 06/05/2018 07:17

@ShackUp follow Woman's Place on twitter: @WomansPlaceUK

and on Facebook: www.facebook.com/womansplaceuk/

They've also just announced a meeting in Basingstoke if that is close for you? www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-to-be-inquiring-tickets-45702072128

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