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SwearyG Thu 22-Mar-18 11:56:15

After the runaway success of last week and the traction we have in the media (shitty interviews aside, but we'll ignore those) and they're keen to know what we're doing this week, and what would really help us is numbers. I hope that if we get enough companies to pull their self-ID stuff we can then start getting at the places where more vulnerable women will need protecting, possibly not with public activism but with discourse, but I think that might be us getting ahead of ourselves.

The plan for tomorrow is changing rooms. We know that Topshop, Primark, Marks and Spencer and Urban Outfitters have said that anyone who identifies as a woman can enter the women's changing rooms so the opposite will apply.

Clearly, it won't make a huge amount of impact as a single act in a single shop so we need numbers and social media impact to push this one. I can't dare to hope about the success of last week but I think bringing it to the attention of people who don't know who is allowed in their changing rooms has got to have some impact.

So here's what we need to do:

Pick one of the shops listed

Use one of the changing rooms. You could use the men's as it's man Friday or you could be a horrid man perving in the women's instead. Do what you're comfortable with.

Take photos - they can be of you changing, of the gaps around the curtain, of you outside the men's changing room, if you're brave and take a friend they could be of you inside the changing room taken around the curtain or under the door.

Tweet the company and @ManFriday_ and say something along the lines of how great it was to be in whichever changing room and how nice it was to be around all sorts of people in stages of undress. Say how you appreciate that your feelings are being considered as more important than the safety, privacy and dignity of everyone else in there. You can say stuff about vulnerability too, go to town with your 280 characters.

Don't forget to add the hashtag #manfriday

I know it's something little, but it is something most people would be able to do in a lunch hour or small part of their day and the more people we have the better in the media. We will get better press coverage, and therefore maybe companies rethinking their policies with greater numbers.

Swim England have taken down their guidance, silently, we don't know what they're going to do next, but it does feel like if nothing else we've made people think.

If you're concerned that it won't make a difference, remember that people are still talking about this in the national press in a world where we live in a 24 hour news cycle. Just from two women going for a swim.

NoSquirrels Thu 22-Mar-18 12:00:07

Swim England have taken down their guidance, silently, we don't know what they're going to do next, but it does feel like if nothing else we've made people think.

Wow! That’s huge. Well done!

Patodp Thu 22-Mar-18 12:02:08

Love this.

I live near Westfield shopping centre and need to go there anyway.
Great opportunity to make use of Topman, M&S mens dept etc.

AreYouTerfEnough Thu 22-Mar-18 12:03:31

This is a fantastic idea. I’m not on twitter though. Does it have to be twitter?

GeorgeTheHippo Thu 22-Mar-18 12:04:37

If I identify as a man tomorrow and go to try on clothes in the mens changing rooms, should I take clothes from the mens section or the womens?

Patodp Thu 22-Mar-18 12:05:45

Take clothes from the women's George I have some manly bra shopping needing doing.

SwearyG Thu 22-Mar-18 12:07:36

You can do either. By all means take bras to the men's

Twitter is helpful, that's where we hashtag but please share wherever you can (or get a friend to tweet?)

AuntyElle Thu 22-Mar-18 12:07:41

We know that Topshop, Primark, Marks and Spencer and Urban Outfitters have said that anyone who identifies as a woman can enter the women's changing rooms so the opposite will apply.

Are these companies’ statements collated anywhere to quote from?

Testingnamechange1 Thu 22-Mar-18 12:11:55

Excellent. Am not in the UK at the minute but will certainly share/like/comment in newspaper articles etc etc.

DontCisgenderMe Thu 22-Mar-18 12:13:57

Tweet the company and @ManFriday_ and say something along the lines of how great it was to be in whichever changing room and how nice it was to be around all sorts of people in stages of undress. Say how you appreciate that your feelings are being considered as more important than the safety, privacy and dignity of everyone else in there.

Love this wording!

Testingnamechange1 Thu 22-Mar-18 12:16:22

I can only find news items so far. This on Primark:

www.express.co.uk/life-style/style/583724/Primark-official-guidance-transgender-changing-room-use

SwearyG Thu 22-Mar-18 12:19:36

M&S spokesman says use changing room you feel comfortable in Daily Mail

Topshop Telegraph

Pretty much the whole high street covered here Broadly

thenightsky Thu 22-Mar-18 12:24:03

I did this the other week. I tried two bras on in the men's changing room of M&S. Shop assistants didn't bat an eyelid, but the blokes coming out gave me a sideways look, like they wanted to say something, but didn't dare (good).

SwearyG Thu 22-Mar-18 12:28:08

We know the staff won't bat an eyelid. We want to get chatter on twitter and the press. The staff have been told to let us in. Like last week when I told a receptionist that I identify as a man for a swim. I clearly am not one, but she agreed with me and let me in.

If we can get people talking and writing about it maybe the head offices will realise that women aren't happy with penis in the changing rooms.

overmydeadbody Thu 22-Mar-18 12:36:08

I will spread the word. This is great.

AuntyElle Thu 22-Mar-18 12:40:16

Thank you, SwearyG.
I feeling confused again though having read that DM piece. I think ManFriday is a star and I t’s amazing that Swim England have taken down their advice. But is there not a chance of us contributing to normalising a free for all in changing rooms?

FloralCup Thu 22-Mar-18 12:41:01

Do M&S also have the same policy for their toilets? If so, use the 'correct' loo on the way out.

AuntyElle Thu 22-Mar-18 12:41:06

I do realise that concern has been raised before, I’m just perplexed!!

AuntyElle Thu 22-Mar-18 12:43:27

Reading Floral’s suggestion I have just realised that I genuinely wouldn’t like to discomfort any men by barging into their loos. Oh the irony!

Thisisouting Thu 22-Mar-18 12:46:54

I'll be hosting a man-chester meet up if anyone wants to get involved but doesn't want to go it alone. grin

PM for details - you will be checked before I provide any details safety is paramount!

UpstartCrow Thu 22-Mar-18 12:50:16

I am fucking terrified. Is anyone else fucking terrified. grin

Thisisouting Thu 22-Mar-18 12:54:34

I did a recce on the weekend staff didn't bat an eyelid one of the women waiting for her husband gave me major stink eye

Top tip have your leaflets ready to go in an easy to reach place as you go in/ come out so you can hand them one as you go.

Freshlylaidterf Thu 22-Mar-18 12:56:32

Yes me! Going to see if a gc friend will come with me

SwearyG Thu 22-Mar-18 12:57:18

Aunty I don't think so. If we're very female in the men's changing rooms, or show how vulnerable we are to perves with photos round curtains etc then I think we can get the companies to rethink. Making the men uncomfortable is what we have to do. I felt a total douche for making the men uncomfortable (and also lying to the receptionists) last week, but it seems to have got people talking in plain sight, which is what we want, isn't it?

Freshlylaidterf Thu 22-Mar-18 12:58:48

Where do we get leaflets please?

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