NUS LGBT+ Student Sex Workers Campaign

[OlennasWimple]

Briefing is here

Beyond depressing.

Rather than working to eliminate the factors that drive women to sex work (71% of respondents to a previous NUS survey identified as women, 17% as non-binary - but I bet most of those were women...), they are campaigning to allow student sex workers to continue working in the sex trade and to do so using university facilities and premises, including halls of residence

I'm intrigued that 70% of the respondents to the survey identified as gay / lesbian / queer, though. This is presumably why it's the LGBT+ bit of NUS that is pushing the "guidance"

Halls of residence? Fuck. Can't see any possible issues with that

and to do so using university facilities and premises, including halls of residence

And there I was told by my mother that I needed to go to university so that I could have a job that would not demean me! Guess she got a couple of things wrong there ...

Seriously, though: I'm speechless! And worried about the conclusions misogynistic men will allow themselves to draw about female students out of this!

and to do so using university facilities and premises, including halls of residence

Red light districts within a university. Christ. If that's not a hostile environment for women I don't know what is! Please let this all be over by the time my kids are old enough to know what all this is.

Having given this a few more minutes' thought: obviously, opposition to this will be framed as being SWERFy, mean, exclusionary and myriad other horrible adjectives.

But I believe it was a former boss of mine, a man of course, who really nailed the argument for why prostitution was really not empowering women:

If prostitution was that great, wealthy male white senior executives like myself would be encouraging our own daughters into it!

The paragraphs on the Nordic Model and the New Zealand Model sounds like it was written by pimps.

I'm glad it's not just me who feels so uncomfortable about this. It's just so wrong

If prostitution was empowering then people wouldn't be being trafficked into it. And the people talking about how empowering it is would be the ones doing it.

If I had had to share my intimate space in student halls with a bunch of johns and pimps coming and going I'd have dropped out of university

And aren't enciting prostitution and running a brothel still criminal offences?

Is is possible to find out how many people responded to the survey? The stat claiming that 87% of respondents were LGBTQ/NB must be false. Either the survey respondents are lying (as someone posted that research about people filling in outrageous answers for a laugh) or it wasn't distributed correctly, or the epidemic of people identifying as appropriating queer has reached ridiculous proportions.

So, inviting men who pay for sex onto the campus. Can't see any problems there...

I used to manage security for a university (not in the UK but somewhere that has very much drunk the Kool Aid). We occasionally caught men who were attempting to solicit students on campus. If they were polite they got thrown out and told not to come back. If not polite the police were called and they were banned from campus. Like many universities our campus was open access but no one wants this type of man anywhere near it. Most residences have rules about who is allowed in, with students responsible for their visitors etc because of security concerns. I'd suspect that if they thought a student was running a business (of any sort let alone one that risks others security) from their room in residence or otherwise using the university's facilities for non academic purposes they would be asked to leave pretty sharpish due to breaching codes of conduct.

I can't open the attachment but I'd be very dubious of the survery's veracity. If the numbers in the OP are correct then only 10% of respondents 'identified' as men and 30% as heterosexual so where all the men and straight women?

So they are proposing that students accept men who are paying for sex should be allowed to roam halls of residence and presumably if you question this you are labelled a SWERF?

I’m all for sex worker safety but this is a whole other board game!

I'd suspect that if they thought a student was running a business (of any sort let alone one that risks others security) from their room in residence or otherwise using the university's facilities for non academic purposes they would be asked to leave pretty sharpish due to breaching codes of conduct.

My friend was asked to leave first year halls for running a jewellery making business from her room.

This is appalling news. How can I encourage my daughter - or son, for that matter - to go to the university if this is what they'll be exposed to?

What does SWERF stand for?

I'm intrigued that 70% of the respondents to the survey identified as gay / lesbian / queer

Obviously from the Stonewall school of meaningless surveys...

SWERF = Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminists

TERF = Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists

Funnily enough, the pro sex workers, pro trans ideology and pro porn all seem to be the same people.

Women, and not necessarily 'radical feminists' like my self, are against porn and prositution because they are harmful to women and against trans ideology, because, again, it is harmful to women

So they are proposing that students accept men who are paying for sex should be allowed to roam halls of residence and presumably if you question this you are labelled a SWERF?

They can call me what they like...I'm not having a random 'john' wandering my precious baby angels hall of residence

No way no fucking how

The linky didnt seem to work...what am i doing wrong

I'll try again with the link (and others related to it): better? ( they can't even spell "briefing" correctly on their website....)

Here's a short article summarising the main findings of the survey that informed this briefing

Here's the report itself, with fuller details on the profile of the respondents (note: there were only 55 respondents....)

Better thanks

Will read

Link not working, is there another way to access it, or a new link?

I prefer to describe myself (identify as, if you will) a PPERF - pimp and punter exclusionary radical feminist.

Thanks for link. In their model motion for supporting sex workers, why is point 2 about trans people's suffering in general? It is completely incongruous.

Ahhhh during my time as a terf at Uni a couple of years ago I had a bit of a bust up with 2 sociology students fighting for their lgbT friends’ right to sell sex.

Apparently it’s so post colonial and neoliberal to suggest sex work is damaging to women (I have no idea). Even though I am a good 15 years older and have witnessed real life London street prostitution up close. I hope with some life experience these people will wake the fuck up, because they are going to cause some damage to their generation.

The link to the briefing is in this tweet by NUS LGBT, if the other link still isn't working for some pp