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Donald Trump to stand for President. Conservatives celebrate, modernisers moan

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claig Wed 17-Jun-15 11:09:58

Trump is standing for President. Progressives worldwide are panicking, modernisers on the moon as well as in our so-called conservative party are in meltdown.

This is a real conservative for a change. Will the elite allow this? He is not in their pocket, he is nobody's puppet. He didn't go to Oxbridge, he went to the school of hard knocks. He is richer than them, they can't control him. Is it game over for the elite? Will he make America great once again?


This is what Trump had to say about climate change after studying it

"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop"

This is revolutionary. This is common sense. Trump even trumps Farage for straight talking common sense. The Harvard, Oxbridge automatons won't stand a chance against a people's politician like Trump.

The BBC and Bilderberg will need crisis meetings to try and stop the conservative common sense revolution sweeping the planet.

Modernisers in our "Conservative" party were reported as being in tears on hearing the news.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 11:25:51

''The American dream is dead, but I will bring it back'

This is the biggest challenge to the elite's stitch-up system we have ever seen. What will they do? How will they react? Stand by for every trick in the book against a people's politician. Here they called Farage "toxic", but for Trump their best Oxbridge spinners will need to find something much better than that.

"As part of his big reveal - teased at for years - Trump gave a statement of his own wealth, pegging his net worth at $8.73billion.

He declared to a crowd of Trump devotees and 'VIP' businessmen in suits that he was 'proud' of his enormous assets, noting more than once how 'I'm really rich'.

Have they got enough noney in their slush funds, hedge funds and hideaways to stop Trump?

Could we see a Trump/Farage dream ticket?

They said the people were "apathetic", they said we were "anti politics", but this has put the cat among the pigeons, just as Farage put the fox in the henhouse.

Trump is on the move and there is panic in Harvard, Yale and Oxbridge.

Is this game over for Hillary? Is this too big a hill for Hillary to climb? Trump towers above mere minnows. Trump is the business, the people's champion, not the elite's pawn.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 16:16:54

Trump's full address on standing for President.

Trump says

"They [the politicians] will never make America great again, they don't even have a chance. They are controlled fully, They are controlled fully by the lobbyists, by the donors, by the special interests, fully. They control them"

Conservative audience shouts out in agreement. No modernisers in the crowd, just conservatives.

Apparently Trump is on with O'Reilly on Fox tonight. Unmissable.

"Trump Slams Jeb, Praises Putin in Extensive Interview with Bill O’Reilly
Yes, tonight’s O’Reilly Factor will feature an extensive interview with Trump that is expected to cover a wide variety of topics. And, according to some advance excerpts provided by Fox, Trump is holding nothing back.

Trump has nothing nice to say about any of his fellow 2016 candidates, whether they are on the left or right side of the political spectrum.
But while Trump had plenty of negative things to say about the Americans he is running against, he was surprisingly genial on the topic of Russia President Vladimir Putin."

Incredible stuff. The elite won't let this happen. Trump is in nobody's pocket. But I remember Ross Perot. Conservatives loved billionaire Perot and laughed when he wiped the floor with the professional politicians and Harvard graduates, but there are lots of conspiracy theories that he really helped the progressives and Clinton.

Is Trump for real or will he help the elite and their progressives? It is too early to say but it is going to be a lot of fun watching him wipe the floor with the professional class.

slug Wed 17-Jun-15 16:31:59


claig Wed 17-Jun-15 16:34:17


Very good.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 16:50:21

I'm never sure quite how serious you are, claig, consquently I never really take you seriously. But, if you are truly swooning over ole candyfloss bonce, well ....... hmm
He spawned these two charmers. Them apples didn't fall far from the tree.
He's a psychopath. Watch the documentary about his Scottish golf course crusade. Listen to how he speaks of the 'nonentities' who get in his way, and see the bully boy, threatening, strong arm tactics marshalled against anyone daring to question his plans. (Though he played Wee Ek's ego like a cheap fiddle - I'll give him that).

I know someone who attended a big NY charity do around the time he was spouting off that 'birther' tosh in 2012 - the whole crowd turned their back on him when he appeared - and it was pretty conservative crowd.

'People's champion' ! Trump is Faux News idiot fodder, he only registers with numb noodles whose brain cell is off on it's time share.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 16:59:55

I do like to have a laugh, so I do exaggerate, but I do like Trump. That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says or know about his sons or approve of them etc.

'Listen to how he speaks of the 'nonentities' who get in his way'

Was he referring to polticians and professional progressives when he said that? I want some can-do spirit, I want Trump to shake things up and sort things out and depose the donors, lobbyists and special interests and put the people first. He is so rich, they can't buy him. He is not for hire.

'the whole crowd turned their back on him when he appeared - and it was pretty conservative crowd. '

Are you sure they were real conservatives or modernisers and Cameroonians?

Political commentators are already laughing at Trump, they are saying that he will help Clinton, just as Perot helped Clinton.

The people hope not. They hope Trump is for real, the real deal, and that he will stand up for the people and not the elite. He may end up tricking the people, it's too early to say yet.

The political class are laughing at Trump, but could it be Trump and the people who have the last laugh?

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 17:07:38

'Seven Reasons the GOP Should Fear Donald Trump

He’s a nuisance, a hothead and totally unqualified. But that’s what they said about Ross Perot."

If Trump is serious, if he is not deceiving the public and helping Clinton and the elite's progressives, then all bets are off. The people will flock to Trump and he will trounce the paid for politicians, the puppets, the "cntrolled fully" servants as he calls them, with all of their spin and spun patter.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 17:15:59

No, he was spouing his venom about local people whose homes and small holdings he believed were blighting the views from his proposed golf course. Those you'd refer to as 'ordinary people'.

I'm pretty sure this NY crowd weren't 'modernisers', and they'd think 'Cameroon' was where their maid come. Old money.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 17:19:00

That should read 'they'd think 'Cameroon' was where their maid came from'.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 17:21:50

Yes, but "old money" are not real conservatives. They are not Thatcherites. Old money is Bullingdon, global warming believers, hug a hoody, Etonian progressives.

Donald Trump is "new money", he is everything "old money2 loks down on. He comes from the people and stands with the people. Harvard, Yale, Oxbridge and Bullingdon don't impress Trump. Trump gets things done.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 17:29:06

If Trump ever runs America, it will be the American Dream come true. One of the people made good through business and capitalism and without going to Oxbridge or Harvard or law school and serving the elite. Someone who made billions through business and work, someone larger than life and not afraid to laugh at the elite and tell them

"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop"

This is the stuff of Hollywood movies, the American Dream. If anyone can make America great again, it is someone outside the servant class of bought and paid-for politicians. They don't come much better than straight-talking common sense Trump. He'll sort things out, he is a winner, a can-doer, he'll come out top trumps.

wigglylines Wed 17-Jun-15 17:33:02

I didn't look who posted this, got half way down the OP, thought "what??" at the celebration of climate change denial, then thought "hold on, bet this is Claig."

Trump as president would be a total fucking disaster.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 17:33:07

It's how Fluffy Bonce gets stuff done that should bother you. He doesn't stand 'with the people', he stands on them - with a sharp twist of the heel.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 17:51:34

When Trump speaks, the world will listen. When Trump speaks, the elite will mock and the people will laugh with Trump. When Trump speaks, the elite will panic at what he will say next. They can't control Trump, he has no fear, the end of their entire game is near.

"#7. The Agenda Setter

As James Baldwin once put it, “the most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose.” Donald Trump doesn’t need the presidency. He doesn’t need to win anyone’s favor. He can just let his what is euphemistically called “hair” down and let it fly. And because the press will love to cover him, he will have the other GOP candidates following one rabbit hole after another, depending on whatever Trump feels like talking about that day – trade with China, Obama’s place of birth, life on other planets, or the plotline of “Mr. Belvedere.” Candidates, brace yourselves. You are about to go on one wild, crazy ride.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 17:59:40

I love Clifton Webb! Now, Belvedere would be great in the White House :-)

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 18:01:44

I don't know what Mr. Belvedere is. Is it good?

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 18:13:09

Just tuned into Fox. Trump is all over the airwaves. Quotes abound, attacks on non-entities, third-rate senators and incompetents. Legendary stuff.

O'Reilly Factor is on at 1 am on Fox tonight. Has already been sky plussed as a matter of urgency. Unmissable. I'll be watching and you can bet the Bullingdon Club will be too. Only I'll be laughing and the Bullingdon Club will be weeping.

Modernisers in mourning, real conservatives doing the conga.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 18:19:10

"This very expensive GLOBAL WARMING bullshit has got to stop"

Roodtop wind turbine vendors praying that Hillary stops Trump, charidees and Big Society bigwigs wondering if taxpayer funding will survive a Trump Presidency, Cameroonies in crisis meetings, real conservatives drinking champagne in celebration.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 18:22:24

Record viewing figures set for O'Reilly tonight as real conservatives worldwide and half of America tune in to see how "The Donald" blasts the political class.

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 18:25:42

I'll probably have to stay up for it and watch it live. The World Cup Final is missable, but "The Donald" live is another matter entirely.

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 18:55:15
Mr B's first cinematic appearance. If you like that, try 'Cheaper by the Dozen'. Watching old films will do your psyche more good than lusting after Nodding Nige or Bouffant

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 19:04:56
Don't waste your time with Tufty Tête tonight, watch this instead and have an early night. wink

claig Wed 17-Jun-15 19:07:22

Thanks, I will give it a try, but I doubt it can compete with the sheer entertainment value and common sense straight-talking of Farage or Trump. wink

ohmymimi Wed 17-Jun-15 19:21:14

<Shakes head and wanders off muttering Trump associated expletives under breath>

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