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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:16:20

I found this map online of general early mortality rates in areas of England. Does this not seem to link with the same areas most affected by the virus?

fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/mortality-profile/data#page/8/gid/1938133009/pat/6/par/E12000004/ati/102/are/E06000015/cid/4/page-options/ovw-tdo-0_map-ao-4

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Tonyaster Mon 13-Apr-20 16:18:04

What happened to Dorset

FourTeaFallOut Mon 13-Apr-20 16:20:04

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:20:10

'not compared'- Dorset, not sure why though!

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:21:33

Apart from London, which has many cases, the areas seem to be the same ones which have high levels of deaths from the virus, which would make sense if they are areas of high early or preventable mortality as well

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:22:52

Sorry For tea, looking to understand the virus seems to be a problem? I have family members with health conditions, so yes this is a concern..confused

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Tonyaster Mon 13-Apr-20 16:25:25

I think its interesting OP!

Faez Mon 13-Apr-20 16:28:08

What has OP previously said to elicit that reaction?

Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:29:04

Yes I have looked at the Glasgow affect in the past as I come from there!

It seems there are quite high levels of virus there. I tried to find a map of Wales but found this which does seem to show higher virus cases in the areas of lowest life expectancy in a similar way, if you look

public.tableau.com/views/PHOF2017LAHB-Compare/UHB-LAChart-Table?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:30:39

Faez I also posted about the virus in BAME might be that, and about higher cases in older men. Some people don't seem to think it is OK to discuss those things, not sure why. confused

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:42:29

This data showed in previous years "significantly higher proportion of people developed pneumonia in the East Midlands and the North West of England than in the UK generally". Not so much in Wales though

statistics.blf.org.uk/pneumonia

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FourTeaFallOut Mon 13-Apr-20 16:48:45

A cursory glance at the extensive posters history on the coronavirus topic suggests exactly where this is going, and if it doesn't end up nudging the conversation towards this idea that all these people were all heading for an early demise in any case and so we should just resume our normal life, I'll eat my own face mask.

Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 16:56:29

Right, so unsure how that would fit with men and BAME but there we go. And of course it is well known that people with previous conditions and older are more likely to suffer with COVID. confused

The post was about geographical areas in the UK and the virus. Other posters have talked about this also, I have not seen such a response. I'm sorry if it seems to be such a controversial topic.

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 17:00:25

My situation is I have a DH who is at risk and we have online deliveries etc so yes health is a worry.

Don't understand why I'm being attacked for discussing health disparities but that is MN right now for you.

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Orangeblossom78 Mon 13-Apr-20 17:01:40

So suggesting that others might keep over and die etc is not the kindest thing to say to me at present. Thanks.

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Orangeblossom78 Tue 14-Apr-20 08:45:08

Fourtea MN has deleted your post for a reason, hope you take that on board.

I don't see why it is not Ok to talk about things like health and areas of the UK most affected. It helps people understand it. We don't always have to get emotional and see an agenda behind it.

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Orangeblossom78 Tue 14-Apr-20 09:04:03

Something about this in the Times today in case anyone else is interested.

"The world’s social and economic disparities have become magnified in the crisis.

People living in cramped and overcrowded conditions are more likely to contract the virus and, because those at the lower end of the economic scale also tend to be the most unhealthy, to die of it. Diabetes, heart disease, asthma, obesity — all the conditions underlying Covid deaths — are more prevalent in disadvantaged communities.

A study by the Institute for Fiscal Studies found that people in the most deprived areas of Britain were 1.7 times more likely to be treated in hospital than those in wealthier areas"

I'm wondering if that links in with the map, perhaps.

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