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To wait to see if this relationship improves after lockdown?

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 04:31

I am divorced and met someone really nice before Christmas.

I am kind of a loud, outgoing, party girl. He's a shy, quiet, homebody. We're completely mismatched in every possible way but it just worked.

At the point we met, I didn't have any interest in a serious relationship. We went on 5 or 6 dates before I even realised I quite liked him and even then, when very straight with him that I liked my single life and wasn't at the point where I wanted a serious partner.

Conversely, he was very forthright about his feelings very early on. He told me he loved me after 2 weeks (to which I laughed and said not to be ridiculous), he talked about our future together, gave lots of compliments.

On both of our parts, the chemistry was mind-blowing.

After spending a lot of time with him I realised I did want a relationship with him, which was awesome. We were having the best time.

Then COVID-BLOODY-19 hit and things changed.

This isn't my home country (it is his) and I am a single parent, far from my family, so I was quite shaken up. I became a bit more emotionally needy and I guess I went from chilled out, fun girlfriend, to being occasionally anxious and upset. He didn't seem to deal with this well at all. He would completely shut down when I got upset and couldn't hide his irritation with it.

We've now been in lockdown separately for a month, with at least another month to go (we're not in the UK) and really from the day we were no longer able to be together physically, I've noticed a shift. He just stopped making any effort. Never said he missed me, no compliments, completely ignored any reference to the 'physical' side of our relationship (which was always fantastic). He isn't really into virtual date nights so that hasn't helped.

Eventually I had enough and asked him what was going on. He said he still wanted to date me exclusively but he didn't know if he wanted me to be his girlfriend (I'm not sure what the difference is??) and that he felt things had changed between us and he wanted them to go back to how they were before COVID-19 (erm yes mate, you and the rest of the world!!).

I told him I wasn't prepared to be demoted so we'd have to break things off entirely if that's what he wanted. I did say that if that were the case then I didn't want to stay in touch, because I'd find it difficult to move on. Eventually after many hours of discussion, he said that wasn't what he wanted and we stayed together (whatever that means when you're in separate lockdowns!).

We're now several weeks later and things are better but not the best. I am finding myself increasingly insecure. I notice things I'd never have noticed pre-lockdown, like how often he's online (always!) but not replying to me, and wondering who else he's talking to. All things that feel very 'teenage-girl', that I'd never notice in normal life when I was always busy and having fun.

I've checked in with him a few times to ask how he was feeling about things and although he doesn't give much away, he always says he wanted to keep being 'together' with a view of picking things up once we can see each other in person again. I'm still not getting anything back when I compliment him or talk about how I miss hanging out with him. That said, we do chat on the phone every day and it is always lovely.

My closest friends are mystified about why I'd want to be with this emotionally unavailable man who wasn't willing to take the rough with the smooth. To be honest I'm not really sure some of the time either. But then we'll chat and it'll be lovely and I'll remember how nice things were before lockdown and I'm hoping I'll get the old version of him back once we're reunited in person.

I don't want to make any hasty decisions while the world has come to a stop, but also I don't want to be messed around or led on. Patience and relinquishing control aren't exactly my strength so I am trying to just ride it out and see what happens.

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ShallallalAa · 04/05/2020 04:38

If a man makes you feel anything other than cherished, the prize, the light of their eyes... You walk away, whatever the circumstances. Never, ever sell yourself short ie give your self to a man who is unsure, demotes you, is cold etc etc. Dump him, block his number and delete.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 04/05/2020 04:40

What a lot of words for this:

When times were tough, he wasn't great.

I had a long distance relationship with DH for the first 18 months. It was shit but he was consistent. This isn't the COVID version of him. It's the rough patch version.

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 05:17

@ShallallalAa when he first 'demoted' me, I told him exactly this and said I wasn't prepared to accept that. He actually said he agreed and I probably did deserve to be with someone who adored me. Unfortunately I ended up quite upset at the thought of losing him so I conveniently let it go Blush. What a wimp I sound now I read that back.

@MrsTerryPratchett - you're so right. I wonder what he'd be like in any other kind of shit scenario. It hardly bodes well.

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PapayaCoconut · 04/05/2020 06:37

He told you he loved you after two weeks (while you were in "fun, sexy, independent party girl mode"), but as soon as you stated signalling that you needed something from him (commitment, emotional support) he cooled off. If I'm being charitable, I'd say he sounds very immature.

He's keeping in touch because he wants to continue the physical side of things after lockdown, is my guess. That's what he means when he says he doesn't want you to be his girlfriend. He only wants sex. None of that difficult emotional stuff.

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TwistyHair · 04/05/2020 06:48

Red flags. Saying he loves you after two weeks and then getting irritated when you have any emotion that isn’t completely positive. And also messing you around a bit, trying to unsettle you.

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AnyOldPrion · 04/05/2020 06:58

Was about to say the same as TwistyHair. His attempt to move everything on really fast is a massive red flag. The cooling off as soon as you needed something is another. He hooker you and knows it. He will give you just enough to keep you on that hook and no more. If you let him, he will use you. I think you know this, otherwise you wouldn’t be here asking. Good luck.

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 07:00

@PapayaCoconut the bloody frustrating thing is that was all I wanted to start with! I must've said 'you know this is just sex, right?' a million times before he won me over and it became a relationship.

Looking back, I wonder if he just liked the chase and actually liked the 'just sex' dynamic, even if he insisted he wanted more.

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pictish · 04/05/2020 07:01

Claiming to be ‘in love’ after a fortnight is the first red flag to note isn’t it? That’s a big claim to make...and a false one as it turns out. He likes shagging you...that’s what he meant.

The ‘demotion’ would be enough for me to end things. If, after all the time spent together, he’s not looking to solidify your relationship, he’s not the one for you.

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pictish · 04/05/2020 07:04

Yes it might well be about snaring you. The chase. Now he’s caught you, it’s about offering emotional support from afar....and that’s not as exciting is it?

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blubberball · 04/05/2020 07:06

He's not good enough for you, and you deserve better.

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FlowerArranger · 04/05/2020 07:18

You know the saying: never treat someone as a priority if they consider you an option... Or words to that effect. Clearly he is a useless love-bombing tosser who doesn't deserve you. Flowers

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ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 04/05/2020 07:28

A lone parent with no family support system in a country which isn't your home, and he came on really strong saying he loved you within weeks and pushing for a relationship you didn't want at the time? Yeh, red flags all over that one. If I had to guess I'd say he identified you as someone vulnerable who would be an easy victim, love bombed you, and has now moved on to the "fucking with your head" stage of the game. I'm sorry this happened to you, lots of us have been there. Sack him off before he moves on to whatever stage 3 is and be glad you got away early.

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HuckfromScandal · 04/05/2020 07:30

I would cut my ties and move on. You really liked who you thought he Was. But actually - in reality - he is not that person is he?

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dontdisturbmenow · 04/05/2020 07:51

I've always said that you don't really know someone until you go through difficult times. It's easy to get along brilliantly when things are great and both are always in a good mood.

To think that this is how it can be always is utopic. The reality is everyone have ups and downs, vulnerabilities, difficult habits.

In most cases, the honeymoon last longer, in your case, it was quicker. You've found out that he is only attracted in the fun you, not the vulnerable you.

I'd say run a mile. He's probaby incapable of being emotionally supportive, instead always in the chase for the woman who is always fun and upbeat. He'll be chasing a long time.

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Merryoldgoat · 04/05/2020 07:55

Looking back, I wonder if he just liked the chase and actually liked the 'just sex' dynamic, even if he insisted he wanted more.

This.

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 07:56

@dontdisturbmenow I said the exact same to him when we discussed it. I probably should've cut and run then....

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 08:40

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings I don't believe that's true. I've been here years and am the last person anyone would see as vulnerable (until COVID hit!). On the contrary I think he probably just liked the strong, independent side of me that he had to chase. He's lost interest now I actually need something from him.

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Aquamarine1029 · 04/05/2020 08:49

You are massively wasting your time.

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Mascotte · 04/05/2020 08:52

I think your instinct is probably right but I wouldn't make any big decisions just now. Detach a bit and keep things light and see how you feel at the end of all this.

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MaeDanvers · 04/05/2020 08:52

Sounds like he liked the thrill of the chase, not to mention the sex! He sounds like his ego couldn't take the 'this is just sex' bit from you, so worked to get you emotionally hooked. Once you were, his ego was soothed and his interest has waned.

Oh and the exclusive dating but not girlfriend bit sounds very much like he wants exclusive sexual rights to you but not the emotional commitment of a relationship.

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ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 04/05/2020 09:04

Maybe op. Saying "I love you" after 2 weeks and then messing you around as soon as you let your guard down certainly sounds like love bombing to me, but you know the situation better than I do. Since you started dating him have you still been an outgoing confident party girl, or have you found yourself being talked into staying in and doing "homebody" things? If you go out partying does he sulk, or text you constantly checking what you're doing? Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but these were the alarm bells that went off for me. Anyway, even if it's nothing like that and he's just shit under pressure I'm afraid I still wouldn't be hanging around. You've started off in a dynamic where you held all the power because you had weaker feelings than he did, but he's now maneouvered you into a dynamic where he holds all the power, picking and choosing when or if he wants to be with you whilst you hang around hoping that the scraps will turn back into more. In my experience men often quite like that dynamic, they quite like holding all the cards. Take back the power by breaking up with him or at least seriously cooling things off, and then if he's really serious about you then you can renegotiate the relationship on your terms when you're ready. But ultimately if you can't arrive at a dynamic which positions you both as equals rather than competitors in an endlessly shifting power asymmetry, then the relationship will never work.

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peperethecat · 04/05/2020 09:05

Yeah I would cut my losses and walk away from this one. On the bright side, at least coronavirus has stopped you from wasting more time with him.

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Mummieswork · 04/05/2020 09:17

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings - no, he didn't do any of that. He was very happy for me to be off living my life.

You are completely correct on the shift in power though. I am absolutely going to cool things off (at the very least) and see how we go from there.

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ShallallalAa · 04/05/2020 10:38

The best advice I received post divorce and dating was - watch your own reactions when you're interacting with the romantic interest. Do you notice that you flare up and feel needy? Or get angry with them and that inevitably becomes a row? Or any other undesirable emotion? Cause if you feel it repeatedly its not right for you and you need to walk away quickly and with finality so that you don't get involved with in a low quality relationship that's wrong for you. The right person for you makes you feel at ease, consistently.

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ShallallalAa · 04/05/2020 10:41

Do yeh I wouldn't waste another day on this one, lock down or no lock down - he's fucking with you're head and you weren't that into him anyway.

Great book called 'you weren't that into him anyway' makes an excellent read and rang true with why casual sex never worked for me.

Best of luck op Flowers

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