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Grammarist Sat 23-Feb-19 00:53:56

Just had a discussion with the ever-lovely DH where I mentioned that a female friend of mine (an eminent Professor in her field) was a target of mansplaining via a live TV interview recently.

DH exploded at me. Mansplaining apparently isn't real and I shouldn't think that it is...

Hmmm.... I think he may be doing it to me. Dick smile

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 08:54:13

“As a man.”

Stop referring negatively to my protected characteristics. It’s unacceptable. ✋

TheActualAlexa Sat 23-Feb-19 08:54:50

Mansplaining is I think a brilliant and necessary term because it instantly captures the essence of something. Men need to take it on the chin that it’s “a thing”. If the term annoys you, it’s probably because you’re guilty of it. It was only after the term was coined that I started noticing it everywhere. Admittedly, it will certainly take some of us guys a conscious effort to avoid, since we are so good at bullshitting to each other (and when bullshitting to each other we very often either don’t notice or don’t particularly care).

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 08:57:07

Whatta man, whatta man, whatta might douchey man, y'all

Say it again now!

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 08:57:35

“If the term annoys you, it’s probably because you’re guilty of it.”

What’s the logic behind that? It annoys lots of women too, so can you explain the correlation between it annoying someone and them being likely to be guilty of it? What is the mechanism for this?

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 08:58:02

Stop referring negatively to my protected characteristics. It’s unacceptable.

hmm

You are a man, you have been raised and socialised as a man. You have no direct experience of being raised and socialised as a woman and therefore have never been on the receiving end of misogyny, everyday sexism, or mansplaining. That's not referring negatively to your protected characteristic, that's fact.

echt Sat 23-Feb-19 09:00:35

“If the term annoys you, it’s probably because you’re guilty of it.

What’s the logic behind that? It annoys lots of women too, so can you explain the correlation between it annoying someone and them being likely to be guilty of it? What is the mechanism for this?

The poster is addressing men.

Women aren't offended by the term, but are by the experience of it.

CheerioHunter Sat 23-Feb-19 09:00:51

Surely you have brought him up to be able to stand on his own 2 feet?

Genuine question, how would you respond to this accusation?

I would assume that most men wouldn't deliberately do it, unless they're attempting to antagonise. And I'm guessing that a (maybe relatively small) number of people accused of mansplaining genuinely weren't, its either an opinion or err debate misinterpreted?
So with those in mind facing the easy shoot down of "you're mansplaining", where do you go?
Apologise and then the debate is shot down and over? (easy/lazy "victory")
Carry on with your point? (continuing to mansplain?!)
Defend yourself / your point further and counter the claim? (Appear to be trying to force control of the situation?)

Seems like soon as the phrase is mentioned there's no where to go without seeming a utter dick.
Of course I realise that mansplaining happens, and most of the time when it's pulled up is probably correct, but it's crappy we live in a time when:
a) everyone's opinion is stubbornly 100% right and
b) a few certain phrases either stop the debate dead or courses them to spiral immaturely out of control!

So yeah, genuine grasp to learn here

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:01:00

I once had an issue in my own specialist work field mansplained to me, at an event where I’d been invited in my professional capacity, by a man who’d done the inviting and also wasn’t in my field anyway.

Him: “so what’s the current thinking on [thing] these days?”
Me: <quick summary>
Him: “No it isn’t. I read about this recently. ACTUALLY, what’s happening is [other thing]....”
Me: hmm

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:01:34

Some people are just patronising cunts. I don’t align it to gender because that would be wrong. Because generalising about protected characteristics is wrong

It’s sex. Not gender. Please, please stop calling it gender.

iSiTbEdTiMeYeT1 Sat 23-Feb-19 09:02:20

Man splaning is just a catch all term for I don't like how you talk to me/ your making a point I can't counter/ your making my argument mout. It might have been as useful term at some point before before self important people took it as there own however now it's just a total load of BS

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:03:00

Apologise and then the debate is shot down and over?

IME the worst examples of mansplaining aren’t during a mutual debate/conversation. They’re when a man feels the need to impart his wisdom, completely unsolicited, because he’s a man and must know best.

Case in point a man on this thread telling women they’re wrong in their own lived experiences. But that he knows because “he lives in the real world” and that easily equates to years of dealing with misogyny.

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:04:08

The men who do it do it because they are raising with the unconscious patriarchal bias that they know lots about everything and should be listened to because they are the superior gender. So it depends on your definition of "deliberate". Subconscious, possibly. Deliberate, possibly. Have you heard the phrase "Lord, give me the confidence of a mediocre white man"?

Mummyoflittledragon Sat 23-Feb-19 09:04:16

Streetwise
You ignored my comment, other comments and our experiences because it doesn’t fit with your reality. As a man. A man, who isn’t being attacked by men and male bodied people.

This is classic mansplaining.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:05:27

They’re when a man feels the need to impart his wisdom, completely unsolicited, because he’s a man and must know best

Yes. There is a lot of men explaining to women how to do feminism currently on Twitter. Then getting very huffy - at length, usually - when the women don’t agree enthusiastically.

CuriousaboutSamphire Sat 23-Feb-19 09:05:34

Genuine question, how would you respond to this accusation It was in repsonse to saying that, as his father, Hercules would be the one stepping in and 'having a word'.

I would have thought that a good parent would a) teach all their kids manners, and b) would also teach them to be able to stand up for themselves

Seems like soon as the phrase is mentioned there's no where to go without seeming a utter dick. I agree with you. It has, to use another weird term, become 'weaponised' in some circles.

I'd only use it in cases such as the bloke who went to great lengths to explain that women were describing their female anatomy incorrectly, or an ex who tried to explain how I could reduce period pain... to me it is only applicable when a man decides he 'knows how to woman' better than a woman!

But I don't use or like the term much!

picklemepopcorn Sat 23-Feb-19 09:06:52

If I challenged someone on 'mansplaining', I'd expect them to ask why I felt that. Then they could justify their position. Same as in any disagreement.

I think mansplaining is one of those things you can't see until you've 'got your eye in', somehow. Like sexing chicks, or spotting a weed in grass.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:07:04

“Women aren't offended by the term, but are by the experience of it.”

Another generalisation. Many women reject the concept of mansplaining. Good attempt to dissemble though.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:07:47

“It’s sex. Not gender. Please, please stop calling it gender.”

Tomayto, tomahto. Ok.

Kunkka Sat 23-Feb-19 09:08:35

@TheActualAlexa
It's true. We as men are masters of maintaining a self-confident appearance while beeing totally clueless.
It's one of my top professional skills. Because that is what my employees expect of me. But that doesn't stop me from recognising when someone knows her shit (is this even a term in English?) and be humble and listen+shut my mouth

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:08:51

Tomayto, tomahto. Ok

It’s not. They mean different things.

CuriousaboutSamphire Sat 23-Feb-19 09:08:52

Tomayto, tomahto. Ok. No... biolgoy : social mores

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:08:53

Yes, because some women have been brainwashed by years of gaslighting and mansplaining into believing patriarchy isn't a thing.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:09:15

“Mummyoflittledragon

Streetwise
You ignored my comment, other comments and our experiences because it doesn’t fit with your reality. As a man. A man, who isn’t being attacked by men and male bodied people. ”

I didn’t realise there was a rule that I had to reply to every post. If I have missed your post it’s because it maybe didn’t resonate or strike a chord with me.

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:09:38

Tomayto, tomahto. Ok

Example of man not liking being corrected...

echt Sat 23-Feb-19 09:10:00

“It’s sex. Not gender. Please, please stop calling it gender.”

Tomayto, tomahto. Ok

Unbefuckinglievable.

Though as a relative newcomer to MN, the poster may not have given his head a wobble. Ever.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:10:08

“Yes, because some women have been brainwashed by years of gaslighting and mansplaining into believing patriarchy isn't a thing.”

I think the essence of what people call mansplaining is well encapsulated here.

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:10:51

Oh my god. Way to miss the point, @SH

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:11:18

What does that even mean?

TheActualAlexa Sat 23-Feb-19 09:12:35

Just an opinion- and observation that people who don’t like the term often employ it. However, I’m not going to fall into the trap of attempting to myself mansplain some kind of mechanism for it!

ALargeGinPlease Sat 23-Feb-19 09:12:42

Perhaps Streetwise would like to "explain" why sex and gender are the same thing (tomahto/tomayto).

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:13:58

Oh yes SmileEachDay, I love those ones. “As a man who has spent about fourteen minutes thinking about this issue, let me explain to you so-called feminists how your carefully constructed theories of structural oppression are wrong. What? I AM TOO a feminist, how very dare you tell me otherwise, you bitches.”

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:14:24

Ha, perfect!

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:14:43

“It’s not. They mean different things.”

You are correct, but I’m not really interested. I think if you have a penis you are most likely a man and if you have a vagina, a woman.

The debate where people tie themselves in knots over it doesn’t interest me. That’s not me being glib, just honest.

Thegoodthere Sat 23-Feb-19 09:15:18

I'm shocked. SHOCKED, I tell you.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:15:32

“Perhaps Streetwise would like to "explain" why sex and gender are the same thing (tomahto/tomayto).”

They aren’t.

Mummyoflittledragon Sat 23-Feb-19 09:15:46

You didn’t address my point because it didn’t resonate with you. Fine. That’s because you’re a man, who has no idea of my reality. It didn’t resonate with you because you’re not the one having your toilets and changing rooms invaded by men, who say their penises are female and have female bodies. Some of these men are dangerous. Need I say it?? You are mainsplaining.

Just one example of what’s happening out there. Got this off Twitter. It’s in Bangor.

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:16:48

You are correct, but I’m not really interested

Mansplaining perfectly encapsulated in one short sentence.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:17:01

Indeed 53rd - often accompanied by a list of Ways You Must Feminist Better that usually include centering men.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:17:01

“That’s because you’re a man, who has no idea of my reality. It didn’t resonate with you because you’re not the one having your toilets and changing rooms invaded by men, who say their penises are female and have female bodies. Some of these men are dangerous. Need I say it?? You are mainsplaining. ”

But I agree with you about that. So what are you talking about?

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:17:49

“Mansplaining perfectly encapsulated in one short sentence.”

Yes, no woman could ever take such a view. 😐

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:19:57

*“It’s not. They mean different things.”

You are correct, but I’m not really interested. I think if you have a penis you are most likely a man and if you have a vagina, a woman

The debate where people tie themselves in knots over it doesn’t interest me. That’s not me being glib, just honest

Yeah, that’s not why sex/gender are different pumpkin.

I ❤️ “You are correct but I’m not really interested”. There’s a lot going on in that sentence.

echt Sat 23-Feb-19 09:21:02

I think we're feeding someone here.

The faux-naive approach, bordering on the thick as mince is quite common.

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:21:05

Yes, no woman could ever take such a view

Feel free to start your own thread thereon.

Rather than trying to use a segue because you’re struggling to mansplain why mansplaining isn’t a thing.

SaturdayNext Sat 23-Feb-19 09:21:40

Surely you have brought him up to be able to stand on his own 2 feet?

He is 6 years old.

Surely you plan to bring him up to be able to stand on his own two feet?

CheerioHunter Sat 23-Feb-19 09:24:38

IME the worst examples of mansplaining aren’t during a mutual debate/conversation. They’re when a man feels the need to impart his wisdom, completely unsolicited, because he’s a man and must know best.

Fair point, it just seems to be a "catch word" at the moment (from the outside anyway, since I've not actually had it aimed at me [yet!], just seen it mentioned lots, and a few times didn't think it really fitted the argument) that gets rolled out in what seems like irrelevent moments.
Or even where a guy is just genuinely explaining how something looks from his perspective, not to try and say its right, or change the other person's view but just to add how it comes across etc?

Like a lazy retort. I'd sooner be on the "losing" end of an indepth debate where both people realise its just too different perspectives, where I'll probably learn something and maybe even the other party does a little too rather than just hit a "mansplaining" wall.

But I guess like you say, if it was that sort of debate where you'd be learning something, the people should notice the difference in intent anyway.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:24:46

It's the faux-naivete plus the smugness coming off in waves from the "I will use their own terminology of 'gaslighting' and 'protected characteristics' against them, that'll surely lead them to short-circuit in their own confused logic while I sit back smugly with my hands folded behind my head and congratulate myself for yet another morning on Mumsnet correcting the ladies!" that tipped it off for me.

I have no problem with men on Mumsnet in theory, but God some of you are not great ambassadors for your 'protected characteristic' in practice.

ethelfleda Sat 23-Feb-19 09:30:03

God I love the women of mumsnet. When I go grow up I want to be like you!

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:33:31

Or even where a guy is just genuinely explaining how something looks from his perspective, not to try and say its right, or change the other person's view but just to add how it comes across etc?

Again that comes back to whether it was solicited though.

My very first experience of mansplaining happened when I was 14. I was watching the rugby with my dad. A decision was made, I was discussing with dad as to why I thought (correctly) it was incorrect. Guy behind me leaned through and said “don’t worry love, offside can be tricky”.

THAT is mansplaining. The overreaching view that penis = knowledge that far outstrips any knowledge a woman might have. Especially prevalent in traditionally “male” pursuits.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:33:41

“'s the faux-naivete plus the smugness coming off in waves from the "I will use their own terminology of 'gaslighting'”

You don’t own the term “gaslighting”. I’ve been gaslighted by a man to the point he ended up with criminal convictions.

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 09:34:24

Oooops missed a bit. Dick then went on to try and explain the intricacies of offside to me.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:35:39

“I have no problem with men on Mumsnet in theory, but God some of you are not great ambassadors for your 'protected characteristic' in practice.”

In theory. Lol.

I’m not here to be an ambassador for anything. I don’t belong to a tribe. I just disagree with you about something. Can’t you take it?

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:39:18

I just disagree with you about something. Can’t you take it?

No. No, I can't take disagreement. It makes me collapse into a fainting pile of pink hormones and girlish gasps. <swoons>

MorningsEleven Sat 23-Feb-19 09:39:53

It’s sex. Not gender. Please, please stop calling it gender

I prefer gender. I'll say gender. You can say sex, if you prefer. Please don't police other people's use of language.

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 09:40:13

Can't you take it?

And there it is, attempting to shut down the discussion by implying we can't handle it.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:41:37

Smile did you see that Twitter bloke the other day who was going to write an article for Vice about how paying for sex enhanced his own feminism, and then got all narky and "well SOME of us actually RESPECT sex workers!!!" when feminists objected? grin

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:43:20

“I have no problem with men on Mumsnet in theory, but God some of you are not great ambassadors for your 'protected characteristic' in practice.”

What’s this “we”? Did you make that up? I clearly directed the comment to an individual.

I don’t like the term “mansplaining” and I said so. The response had been rudeness and hostility from some individuals. So I asked one that question.

What on earth could your problem be with that?

LuaDipa Sat 23-Feb-19 09:43:41

IME the worst examples of mansplaining aren’t during a mutual debate/conversation. They’re when a man feels the need to impart his wisdom, completely unsolicited, because he’s a man and must know best.

This is exactly it. I have never used the word mansplaining after a debate or discussion, only when rolling my eyes and laughing with other females in the office after they witness a male with no training whatsoever in my area of expertise sharing their usually completely irrelevant ‘advice’ with me. Funnily enough, it never seem to happen to the much less qualified and experienced male colleague who works for me.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:44:14

What on earth could your problem be with that?

I told you. It's my hormones. I'm just not capable of the same kind of logical, rational analysis that you are.

Mummyoflittledragon Sat 23-Feb-19 09:44:35

But I agree with you about that. So what are you talking about?

Well you didn’t really, did you? I was your post of 9.14 and Smileeachdays response to it.

a) you said most bepenised people are male. Wrong. Some are transwomen. All are anatomically male.

b) you said you’re not really interested in it.

c) you get huffy about your “protected characteristics” as a male.

And from those 3 comments I am to deduce you agree??

Furthermore we are supposed to respect you being a man but you don’t wish to extend the same courtesy. biscuit

CheerioHunter Sat 23-Feb-19 09:45:55

Again that comes back to whether it was solicited though.

I agree, your example was a private conversation that just happened to be in a public area. Even if he agreed with you it would have been rude, unless you had been involving him in previous discussions, in which case it's a little greyer.

It's just most examples that Ive seen tend to be on public Internet forums, which by their nature I believe are there for everyone to come in and give their input, it seems that if it doesn't back up the OP it's often thrown out rather than like (I think you, but may not have been) said, the two parties seeing the other side and "thrash it out" - Perhaps years of dealing with genuine, blantent mansplaining has led to a frustration to get involved in the debate side, but I fear its equally becoming that "Nazi" moment, as soon as its mentioned the arguments lots.

Quite often I've stopped myself commenting on a few things, I wasn't going to attempt to tell anyone they were wrong, or should change their view, but just express how and why people could be viewing what they said in a particular way, but thought I couldn't be bothered with the back lash that I was "trying to preach" or was another "mansplainer" just went off to sit on the sofa with my legs spread as wide as possible wink

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:46:08

“I told you. It's my hormones. I'm just not capable of the same kind of logical, rational analysis that you are.”

You play to the sexist tropes if you wish. I’ll leave you to your tantrum.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:47:39

I prefer gender. I'll say gender. You can say sex, if you prefer. Please don't police other people's use of language

It’s not policing. They just mean different things, it’s not about preference.

53rd yes I did 😂😂 He’s a peach, isn’t he? learning so much from paying to put his cock in women.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:48:16

You leave me to my hysterical girlish tantrums, and I'll leave you to your daydreaming about just how furious you'll be the day that an adult woman accuses your 6-year-old of mansplaining, as clearly all women are just itching to do.

Meanwhile, back at the actual conversation...

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 09:48:54

You play to the sexist tropes if you wish. I’ll leave you to your tantrum.

I believe it was sarcasm with a side of cynicism rather than a tantrum.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:49:02

yeah, I liked it when someone asked him what he is precisely paying these women he's 'seeing' to do, and he got all coy and said he didn't want to talk about his private life grin

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:52:00

“Well you didn’t really, did you? I was your post of 9.14 and Smileeachdays response to it. ”

I do agree with you. I have little interest in trans issues and my prevailing view overall is that it’s a complicated thing for a very tiny minority and given far too much prominence in societal debate.

Do I think people with penises are Male? Yes I do. Does trans status confer female status onto men? Anatomically no, they are male. Beyond the physical can they truly be female minded? I dunno, but I have no reason to disbelieve them.

So I am willing to concede that trans people have an element of the gender they transition to within them, hence my use of the word “mostly”.

But I can’t say it keeps me awake at night or even lung enough to read much about it.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:54:11

I also liked his attempts to insist that the women interacting with him were SWERFS despite the eleventy million posts saying that it was HIM being excluded from feminism 😂😂

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:55:43

Streetwise

That STIlL isn’t why sex and gender are different.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:56:23

“I believe it was sarcasm with a side of cynicism rather than a tantrum.”
Potayto, potahto.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:57:03

“That STIlL isn’t why sex and gender are different.

I couldn’t give a flying feck.

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 09:57:35

Potayto, potahto.

Well actually, it's spelled P-O-T-A-T-O...

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 09:58:05

Whoosh.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 09:59:54

I believe the correct US English spelling is POTATOE.

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 10:00:13

Whoosh

No, no, I understood what you were saying with your potaytol/potahto thing.

Mummyoflittledragon Sat 23-Feb-19 10:01:05

The response has been rudeness and hostility from some individuals

You came onto a forum frequented predominantly by women and told us how society actually is and that we women saying otherwise are wrong. You only have the experience of being a man and cannot possibly know how it is from out perspective yet chose to impose your POV. If you actually wanted to learn something you would listen to us. Can you really not see why you’ve been getting the responses?

And what exactly is your motive for posting on this thread?? Because apart from your response to my last post I cannot see that you want to add anything positive. However as an aside I’m glad to see you albeit disappointed that rather like my husband you cannot see the implications for your daughter.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:01:10

SH

It wasn’t over her head.

You don’t do nuance or subtlety, do you? Or linguistics, actually.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:01:21

Ok then.

EwItsAHooman Sat 23-Feb-19 10:01:27

I believe the correct US English spelling is POTATOE

You might think that, it's a common misconception but allow me to explain at length why you are mistakenly mistaken...

wink

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:02:30

“You don’t do nuance or subtlety, do you? Or linguistics, actually.”

Are we just down in the mire of personal sleights now? I won’t follow you there, sorry. I hope you have a great day.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:02:50

grin

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 10:03:12

I am still enjoying the fact that SH think he knows what a woman’s lived experiences are because he “lives in the real world”.

If one person has ever been more useful in an actual example of mansplaining I’m yet to meet them.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:05:19

“JacquesHammer

I am still enjoying the fact that SH think he knows what a woman’s lived experiences are because he “lives in the real world”.”

I’m glad you are enjoying it, even though it occur. Maybe your judgement on the existence of mansplaining is similarly accurate.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:05:49

Are we just down in the mire of personal sleights now

No, we’re in the zone of a male chromosomed person being incredibly dismissive of a female chromosomed person then having a hissy fit when the female chromosomed person points it out.

It’s a zone as old as time.

Mummyoflittledragon Sat 23-Feb-19 10:07:16

personal sleights. I think you mean slights.

Not seeing any slights myself. And of course we shouldn’t feel even slightly insulted by his mansplaining. Nooo nooo.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:07:32

Well ACTUALLY it's 'slights', not 'sleights'...

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:08:55

Typos now huh. Ok. 👌

Quintella Sat 23-Feb-19 10:09:16

I love when men mansplain their way around Mumsnet.

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:11:22

“I love when men mansplain their way around Mumsnet.”

Are you referring to me?

DisrespectfulAdultFemale Sat 23-Feb-19 10:11:49

Are we just down in the mire of personal sleights now

My philosophy is: don't get in the mud with a pig. You'll only get dirty and the pig will enjoy it, which is why I always ignore posts that @ me.

Pumperthepumper Sat 23-Feb-19 10:13:24

This thread has been mansplaining gold, just excellent work star

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 10:16:18

I’d love a “personal Sleights”. It’s a lovely place

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 10:17:10

even though it occur

Indeed it did. Glad we’re in agreement on that point.

53rdWay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:17:17

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a Mumsnet thread discussing mansplaining, must be in want of a man to come along and demonstrate it in real time.

User6949671 Sat 23-Feb-19 10:25:05

It is not a thing. End of

Quintella Sat 23-Feb-19 10:27:25

I mean whose mind hasn't been changed by a thought provoking 'end of'?

StreetwiseHercules Sat 23-Feb-19 10:29:01

“Indeed it did. Glad we’re in agreement on that point.”

It didn’t occur. On a site with no edit function, picking people up on typos is pretty weak.

SmileEachDay Sat 23-Feb-19 10:29:04

End of what, User?

JacquesHammer Sat 23-Feb-19 10:31:47

It didn’t occur. On a site with no edit function, picking people up on typos is pretty weak

I read it as you wrote. Not my responsibility to try and assume what you meant other than what’s written...:

Kunkka Sat 23-Feb-19 10:31:50

@53rdWay

Sadly there's also another universal truth: that the troll is always fed. Too bad these conversations always end the same way

User6949671 Sat 23-Feb-19 10:32:06

It's not a thing. Mansplaning is not a thing. It does not exist.
People talk like idiots all the time. It's just that. Just because you don't like the way some one talks, we do not need to assign silly buzz words that mean nothing.
It is not a thing.

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