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To not feel safe in London...and near London..?

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moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 22:43:51

Ok, see, I am scared now. I lived 9 years in London, moved abroad for 3 years. I would like to move back to the UK but I am scared! Being abroad I have started to look at the newspapers including the shitpapers so I see a LOT of crime, in London, near London and actually everywhere in Britain. Am I paranoid now? It seems wrong to move back and raise children in a village near London as I find crimes history everywhere....

nancy75 Mon 16-Jan-17 22:47:18

Newspapers report bad stuff, printing that today 6million people didn't get mugged or murdered isn't really going to sell papers. There is crime everywhere in the world

PeachBellini123 Mon 16-Jan-17 22:48:33

Er yes. I live in one of the most deprived boroughs in London. We plan to bring our baby up here. Never been a victim of crime. Yes there's crime but for us the positives outweigh the negatives - although it's horrendously expensieve!

The only time I've been a victim of crime was when our car was stolen in a sleepy village in the midlands.

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 22:50:47

Also, I live now in Norway (I'm not from there) and it seems the safest place on earth to the point. It might deform my point of view!

user1469914265 Mon 16-Jan-17 22:51:31

Anders Brevik

Chippednailvarnishing Mon 16-Jan-17 22:52:04

Better stay in the crime free country you are in now.

Or you could start considering that there are 8 million people in greater London, so what you perceive as higher level of crime isn't actually significant if looked at incidents per 100,000 people.

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 22:52:10

user1469914265 Yes I know! but apart from him?

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 22:52:50

I'm a victim of the shitpapers.

Chippednailvarnishing Mon 16-Jan-17 22:54:22


WorraLiberty Mon 16-Jan-17 22:56:42

You should probably stay where you are if it's going to cause you so much stress.

CockacidalManiac Mon 16-Jan-17 22:59:25

If you raise kids in a village, they'll be necking cider in a bus shelter by the age of 15 out of sheer boredom.
I'd take my risks in a city.

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 23:02:57

Mmh CockacidalManiac you have a point! I meant a 'village'...a city corner less hectic than central London.

ShatnersWig Mon 16-Jan-17 23:03:25

I visit London on occasion. I feel safer walking around London at 2am than I do my own town, which is only some 130,000 and considered very "naice"

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 23:03:47

WorraLiberty Where I am is very boring.

AutoFillContact65 Mon 16-Jan-17 23:04:49

I've lived in Zone 2 for 20+ years. I have never been the victim of a violent crime and I can't say I have seen a noticeable increase in the last few years.

Great place to raise a family.

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 23:05:10

ShatnersWig Right. So I should just move back to London. In fact it's safer than let say Turnwell Bridge?

brasty Mon 16-Jan-17 23:09:06

London does have higher levels of crime.But crime is falling in Britain and has been for a few years

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 23:10:53

Ok 8Millions people in London, at least one murder and one rape everyday. 5Millions in Norway, one murder every ...? Hard to say not often!

TheCuriousOwl Mon 16-Jan-17 23:11:29

This week while out working (community based health job) in central London I can report that I have been a victim of and a witness to, no crimes.

I did have a nice chat to a couple of drunk guys with a MASSIVE bull terrier type dog in a lift in a notoriously dangerous estate, just as it was getting dark and I was off home, they were very concerned about my welfare and gave me lots of good advice about not being on the estate on my own once it got properly dark grin. I love it that even the dubious characters look out for me, I think I've got that kind of face!

Stilitzvert Mon 16-Jan-17 23:15:04

YANBU there's violence on every corner in London, you can't move for it. Seriously, you're being paranoid. Yes there's some violence but it's not widespread and i have never seen it

moumoute Mon 16-Jan-17 23:15:13

AutoFillContact65 where zone 2? smile
brasty it's the ratio probably
TheCuriousOwl Ok thank you ;)

user1471548375 Mon 16-Jan-17 23:15:14

2011 - Norway had a 'murder rate' of 2.2 people per hundred thousand, London was 1.5 so arguably, if it's murder you're worried about London is a safer bet.

MirandaWest Mon 16-Jan-17 23:16:37

Although I know it was a one off, when I think of Norway I think of the massacre that happened a few years ago.

Everywhere can have bad things happening.

DMnamechanger Mon 16-Jan-17 23:16:51

AutoFillContact65 Mon 16-Jan-17 23:17:10

Oh I forgot, one night I was at a bus stop with my DS and a man was throwing roast chicken at everyone at the bus stop. I phoned the police and while I was on the phone th local foot patrol walked up and one policeman put his arm around the chicken throwing bloke and walked him away from the bus stop. The police clearly knew and liked the chicken man. Took me another 5 minutes after they'd taken him away to finish the phone call!

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