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A decent budget for low paid workers.

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Sickoffrozen Wed 08-Jul-15 14:16:22

Aibu to think that overall the budget was good news for the low paid with a big increase in minimum wages announced?

Seems like a decent idea to me.

But I stand to be corrected.....

WayneRooneysHair Wed 08-Jul-15 14:18:00

Not if as a couple you earn slightly over £30k and you live in social housing sad

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:21:07

I would argue social housing should be for nmw recipients or vulnerable adults. Too right people on good wages should pay market rent for social housing.

As for the rest of the budget from what I've seen its fairly good unless you're a public sector worker in which case you're fucked.

Quills Wed 08-Jul-15 14:22:10

It won't hit £9 until 2020, and if I read it right, childless people won't be eligible for WTC from April not that great, no.

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:22:55

Since when can childless people claim wtc?!

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 08-Jul-15 14:23:45

Sounds good in theory nut many employers won't be able to afford to pay £9 an hour so people will loose jobs and those still in them.forced to do the work of three employers.

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 08-Jul-15 14:24:02


ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:24:33

Isn't the reduction in business taxes to help companies meet the new nmw?

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 08-Jul-15 14:25:32

Is it enough though? guess we will find out in 2020

WayneRooneysHair Wed 08-Jul-15 14:27:05

I'm disabled, no private landlord would allow me the adaptations I need around my bungalow hence I'm in social housing.

WayneRooneysHair Wed 08-Jul-15 14:27:47

And £30k between two of you isn't good wages.

Oswin Wed 08-Jul-15 14:27:54

Fucked if your disabled or ill though. Cut esa right down. angry

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:28:46

So you'd be in the vulnerable adults category then

GriefLeavesItsMark Wed 08-Jul-15 14:29:09

Did i understand that rent is social housing will go down because HAs can make efficiency savings(so rent control) unless you earn over £30k then your rent will go up to market rates because tax payers are subsidising you. Caught in a logic loop here.

WayneRooneysHair Wed 08-Jul-15 14:29:47

I guess so, it's hard for a 30 year old bloke to see himself as 'vulnerable' though.

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:31:14

I get that. By by virtue of being disabled that is what you are.

WayneRooneysHair Wed 08-Jul-15 14:34:50

Yeah, I grudgingly agree smile

Mamus Wed 08-Jul-15 14:35:34

Uh, no, not at all. £9/hr is not a living wage if tax credits are cut. It certainly won't be a living wage in
Employers are not going to say 'oh your tax credits got cut, here's a pay rise', so how this is a budget for working families I have no fucking clue.

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:36:58

You do realise a lot of people already get £9ph and manage on that. It's a £17,300pa salary.

ChuffinAda Wed 08-Jul-15 14:37:36

Also tax threshold going up to £11k

nannyj Wed 08-Jul-15 14:43:35

I will probably lose my job as my bosses won't be able to afford the rise. I'm a nanny and work in a private household and they struggle to pay me as it is. God knows what will happen.

ollieplimsoles Wed 08-Jul-15 14:44:43

My dh works in public sector and we will not be fucked at all by this budget. We are not entitled to any benefits anyway though. not everyone who works in the public sector is at the mercy of government cuts.

Hissy Wed 08-Jul-15 14:46:44

nanny you would be able to get a new job, with people who can and will afford a nanny.

I wish I could afford one, but I can't.

Your employers clearly can't really afford you. Understand that if they needed to cut back, you'd be out of work anyway.

sashh Wed 08-Jul-15 14:49:16

Some people are low paid because they have health issues that mean they cannot work full time but earn more than min wage, they won't be better off.

QforCucumber Wed 08-Jul-15 14:50:30

Little bit confused as to your comment mamus

I get paid £8.50/hr now, DP on £12/hr granted, but between us neither of us claims any tax credits, yet have a mortgage bills etc.
I managed on my own before DP, sure I would again if we were to end our relationship, people relying on tax credit s is why the country is skint - at least with an increase in NMW and an increase in the tax threshold people should'nt need ot have the tax credits.

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