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Four teachers have died of Covid-19 in USA

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Shockingstocking Thu 10-Sep-20 15:36:09

The Times is running this sad story today. They make the point that we are just weeks into the new academic year.

These teachers were not all in the same state so difficult to see how this can be written off as specific to a set of circumstances.

I think we'll look back on what we're asking teachers to do, without protective equipment or social distancing, and feel ashamed of the way they were shamed and harassed to do their job in these conditions.

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TheChineseChicken Thu 10-Sep-20 15:38:36

There are 3.2 million teachers in the US

TeenPlusTwenties Thu 10-Sep-20 15:41:07

That is meaningless without comparison to number deaths per 100,000 and similar figures for other professions. etc etc etc.
Have they died because they are teachers, or are they people who died who just happen to be teachers?

MillyMollyFarmer Thu 10-Sep-20 15:42:52

What conditions? Do you know the slightest thing about this or any other virus we are exposed to every day? I’m so sick of this kind of thinking. It’s why we are going to be in a mess for some time.

MarshaBradyo Thu 10-Sep-20 15:43:26

It’s very early in the new term. They may not have even caught it in the school, it takes weeks to move through to hospitalisation, and critical care

PicsInRed Thu 10-Sep-20 15:43:44

TheChineseChicken

There are 3.2 million teachers in the US

Exactly.

It's a country of 100s of millions of people. If no teachers had died, I'd be wanting to know what their secret was so I could bottle it.

AllPlayedOut Thu 10-Sep-20 15:49:25

And? How many cleaners, construction workers, factory workers, carers and taxi drivers have died? Or is it only teachers who matter?

4 is nothing out of the millions of teachers. And did they get it in school or elsewhere? You don't know. They don't spend their whole lives in school after all.

ragged Thu 10-Sep-20 15:57:37

Even teachers spend the majority of their waking hours away from pupils and colleagues.

RealityExistsInTheHumanMind Thu 10-Sep-20 16:01:40

3.2 million teachers
330 plus million people
190 thousand people have died

4 of them teachers and nothing to say they caught it at school

huh??

Batshitbeautycosmeticsltd Thu 10-Sep-20 16:06:36

No background here. They could have caught it outside school, you know.

LadyR77 Thu 10-Sep-20 16:08:24

Their deaths have nothing to do with the new term starting, or them being teachers. They could have caught it anywhere!

millymollymoomoo Thu 10-Sep-20 16:09:18

Your point is?
Teachers ( and everyone) die everyday from a whole host of contagious illnesses ( and non contagious illnesses)
So its only important if it’s Covid?
Please tell us how many have sued from flu/pneumonia/sepsis / and anything else

Get a grip

lifesalongsong Thu 10-Sep-20 16:10:31

What a sensationalist contextless pointless post.

Teachers have died here, they don't have some super human quality that makes them immune from illness, were you exepecting teachers to have a 100% survival rate?

Coughpatrol Thu 10-Sep-20 16:11:54

And 7,000 healthcare workers have died. Every death is absolutely tragic but your post is unnecessary.
Millions of key workers have had to enter outside of their comfort zone during this pandemic, others have lost their jobs. Professions like carers are facing the biggest challenges of being unable to distance, in the biggest outbreak areas, mostly with inadequate PPE for little over minimum wage and zero hour contracts.

There are huge scandals for bad treatment, decisions and actions during coronavirus and It’s certainly not specific to teachers.

BrieAndChilli Thu 10-Sep-20 16:14:14

how about all the health workers that have died or the bus drivers or the supermarket workers? all of these have contact with the public and many of them have died. without an intensive study of all the people that have died, track and trace to how they caught it we cant and shouldnt be going around saying inflammatory statements like 3 teachers have died!! its like me saying my friend is an office worker and died of cancer implying the office work was why she got cancer.

MarcelineMissouri Thu 10-Sep-20 16:15:35

Sorry for the DM link but this gives details and it’s pretty clear that in these 4 cases it was not caught at school. One caught it from somebody at a church meeting, two were ill before schools had even returned, one was only in for a teacher training day.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8718359/At-four-teachers-died-COVID-19-start-school-year.html

Teachers will catch it at school, I’m not disputing that, but these cases are not examples of that happening.

Quartz2208 Thu 10-Sep-20 16:16:31

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8718359/At-four-teachers-died-COVID-19-start-school-year.html

One of the saddest (28 years old) went into school for a teacher day that was her last day - she actually never managed to teach

Another died during the first week of classes but was self quarantining when school began

Another got it after having contact at a church meeting

Another was in school preparing before she got it but actually had no contact

Waxonwaxoff0 Thu 10-Sep-20 16:16:35

As sad as it is, 4 is a tiny number out of a population of 300 million.

Some people are going to die of this virus. Some will be teachers. Some will be supermarket workers, some will be bus drivers, some will be factory workers, some will be hospital staff. No occupation is 100% safe.

SirSamuelVimesBlackboardMonito Thu 10-Sep-20 16:20:02

? teachers have died of sepsis.
? teachers have died of heart disease.
? teachers have died of flu.

The number of teachers dead from covid is meaningless without context. Even more meaningless (if such a thing is possible) without being able to trace the source of the viral infection to school.

Given that you're talking about the US I'd say that any teacher there is more likely to die as a result of being shot by one of their students.

BogRollBOGOF Thu 10-Sep-20 16:29:40

Thank you for reassuring me that the risks to the lives of teachers is incredibly low smile

In 2018 113 people were killed or injured in US school shootings. That would worry me far more.

flower11 Thu 10-Sep-20 16:54:46

They could have caught it anywhere from family , the pub ,at a restaurant lots of bus drivers, taxi drivers, cleaners, insert any profession have died of covid. Teachers are at no greater risk than any one else out working.

SomewhereEast Thu 10-Sep-20 17:35:09

The current US Covid death toll is edging towards 200,000. It would be pretty amazing if it didn't include any teachers.

Sweden (which kept is schools open throughout) found that the teachers were no more likely to die or become seriously ill than people working in othet professions

RosieLemonade Thu 10-Sep-20 17:52:13

They were all overweight.

GoudaGirl Thu 10-Sep-20 18:31:59

I personally don't think 'we' will be thinking what you are thinking- look at Sweden for instance.

Sad that anyone dies from something preventable for sure BUT you could read it as only 4 teachers have died of Covid -19 v other illnesses and it's a much safer profession than x others..Unless you have some kind of comparator it's pointless and not helpful.

There other things to be concerned about and I am grateful to all teachers and educators and indeed anyone working with children or the public but you can't even prove where these teachers picked it up from. Just unhelpful thinking and no useful suggestions.

Shockingstocking Thu 10-Sep-20 21:03:11

They were all overweight.

Without context, that comment seems to lend itself to many interpretations that place you in a most unfavorable light.

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