9 day fortnight and bank holidays

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I currently work 37 hours per week however I work longer days so every other Monday is my day off, in other words I might work say 8.20 hours for 9 days but essentially put in 74 hours over 10 days.
The next 3 bank holidays fall on my non working Monday so essentially I'm losing out here is this right?

@andreia02 the calculation is absolutely fair.

If you both take two weeks leave they use 10 days leave and you use 9 days but in terms of hours you both use c75 hours. Why is that not equitable and fair?

I personally think the regulations should be changed so all leave is in hours then it would be much simpler for everyone. It would also support greater flexible working by treating everyone the same, making it easier to automate etc

Completely agree with you by changing for everyone in hours. As in this case I feel like even I do the same no of hours, I have less a/l to take… and yes I have a day off every 2 weeks but that is because I did my hours working longer… if you work as receptionist I can understand but if you have to fulfil a list of tasks and you are able to do it in 9 days instead of 10 is like punishing the faster one

@andreia02 It’s not punishing anyone it’s absolutely fair. What you are doing is perceiving a loss where there is none.

Well still not agreeing with you at this point as if we do the same work even the same hours but one in 9 the other in 10 days but one is ending up with 29 days annual leave the other with 26… how you can perceive this? Is like running into a marathon and the one who is finishing later should start his running some meters fw just because he is slower 😅

@andreia02 Is is 29 days including BH or are they on top?

29 days excluding BHs, so + 8BHs

So the full time leave entitlement is 37 days x 7.5 hours = 277.5 hours.

Please explain why you don’t believe you have 277.5 hours leave entitlement.

Think about someone who works compressed hours (37.5 hours) over 4 days. They work 9.375 hours a day. Should they have 37 days leave at 9.375 hours?

a) 37 x 9.375 = 346.87 hours leave

b) 37 days / 5 x 4 = 29.6 days x 9.375 = 277.5

Which is fair?

You seem to want 37 days x 8.33 hours which is not fair.

This is the right answer

Recently I saw a message from HR saying if the BH falls on your NWD you don’t need to book it as leave so the hours you can use on different occasion to book as annual leave

Someone who works as normal(7.5h/day) has 29 days of A/L so 217.5h, someone else who works compressed hours has 29days in theory(217.5h) but because has to book them as 8.33 will end up with 26 days of A/L, even both of them worked the same number of hours during the year. Is there anything I am missing? If the person who works as 7.5 h per day will do overtime for 9 consecutive days and instead of working 7.5h would work 8.33h, is she entitled to take time in lieu(7.45h) on the 10th day without booking it as annual leave but in fact being off? And keeping the 29 days of A/L as normal?

@andreia02
Is there anything I am missing? no

If the person who works as 7.5 h per day will do overtime for 9 consecutive days and instead of working 7.5h would work 8.33h, is she entitled to take time in lieu(7.45h) on the 10th day without booking it as annual leave but in fact being off? Yes, because over the two weeks they have worked 75 hours. A 9 day fortnight can be done informally using flexi time, depending on an organisations policies etc.

And keeping the 29 days of A/L as normal? Yes.

@andreia02 it depends on your organisations policies and processes. Many employers automatically apply BH based on working patterns. So if you don’t work Monday’s the system won’t deduct the BH.

Well this is what I don’t find it fair as seems to be encouraged the people who are not really productive the ones who are going to work just to pass the day and waiting for the salary day not the ones who could be efficient do their job quicker and take advantage of the time left…

@andreia02 What!