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Woman dies by euthanasia after becoming paraplegic trying to commit suicide after gang rape

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AComplicatedWoman · 27/03/2026 01:29

This is one of the most heartbreaking news stories I have come across.

Noelia Castillo had a difficult childhood and spent much of it in care homes. She was sexually assaulted by her ex-boyfriend of four years after she had taken sleeping pills to help her sleep, and was assaulted on another occasion by several men in a nightclub. She attempted suicide in October 2022, and it left her unable to use her legs and in a wheelchair. Noelia conducted a long legal battle with her father for the right to end her life and she died by euthanasia on Thursday.

RIP Noelia. I am so sorry that your life was destroyed by these abhorrent abusive men.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/noelia-castillo-euthanasia-law-spain-b2946671.html

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Wheresthebeach · 27/03/2026 10:58

I'm so angry about male violence being tolerated, and women being expected to 'solve' it by being quiet, or dressing in a certain way, and not being believed so the rape conviction rate is basically non existent unless captured by camera's.

hholiday · 27/03/2026 10:58

MissyPants · 27/03/2026 10:36

I always find it fascinating that people can put their animals to sleep to end their suffering, to be kind, but when it comes to humans it's heavily debated and is seen as wrong.
She absolutely should be able to make that decision herself.
No one killed anyone, she chose to end her life humanely, to end the suffering she endured every day of her life just like people do with their own fucking cats and dogs.
I'm assuming that people who are against this movement would never or have never put a pet to sleep. If you have, then your opinion doesn't matter.

But people do have issues when animal charities rescue neglected pets and then put them down because nobody comes forward to look after them, they’ve had a difficult life in the past, and there simply aren’t the resources made available to look after them. I feel like, in the case of humans, those resources should be found.

likelysuspect · 27/03/2026 10:58

elgreco · 27/03/2026 10:45

Apparently social pressure to self euthanize elderly people is rife in the countries that allow it. Its not necessarily direct pressure, but an insidious belief that they are worthless. They are guilted into killing themselves rather than be a burden. Women cuurrently live longer than men and as more social creatures more likely to be swayed. State sponsored euthanasia will kill more women than men.

There's already enough of a narrative in this country where the elderly are scapegoated for all society's ills and problems let alone building in something like that

thanks2 · 27/03/2026 11:00

This poor woman through no fault of her own had her choice for what was done to her body taken away from her. She had previously attempted suicide and it ended with her being disabled. I think if anything the world should respect her final wish to do what she wanted with her body with dignity.

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2026 11:00

ValidPistachio · 27/03/2026 07:52

Did you miss the fact that she was also a paraplegic?

Your comment makes me feel ill.

Having known and worked with people with multiple disabilities, how do you think it would feel to read that as justification for death?

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:00

Cherryicecreamx · 27/03/2026 10:54

Funnily enough written by a man... Could it be any more insensitive.

It's a great reminder not to fall into the trap of thinking that men whose goals happen to align with ours on some things will support us on any other point.

They're always happy to throw women under the bus, making everything all about them, and in this case, declaring that women shouldn't be able to access abortion.

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2026 11:02

ValidPistachio · 27/03/2026 08:07

Her situation was beyond effective help. What kind of civilised, progressive society would force someone to endure decades of pain and disability, and not help them end their suffering, if that's what they wanted?

Being paraplegic is not 'beyond help' ffs. Neither is trauma or mental health problems caused by it.

ValidPistachio · 27/03/2026 11:04

ArabellaScott · 27/03/2026 11:02

Being paraplegic is not 'beyond help' ffs. Neither is trauma or mental health problems caused by it.

That's clearly not the way she saw it. We know this, because she requested to be euthanised. And, when her father and others tried to prevent it, she fought them every step of the way, until she got what she wanted.

Dartania · 27/03/2026 11:05

I’m glad this wretched woman finally got her wish, it’s just sad her father, with whom she did not have a close relationship, caused an almost 2 year delay and prolonged her unhappiness.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 27/03/2026 11:07

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:00

It's a great reminder not to fall into the trap of thinking that men whose goals happen to align with ours on some things will support us on any other point.

They're always happy to throw women under the bus, making everything all about them, and in this case, declaring that women shouldn't be able to access abortion.

This is what we call In the trade - a stretch.

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:08

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 27/03/2026 08:04

I don't think it is.

I think the issue is do people, do women, have the right to decide what to do with their own bodies and lives even if some people disagree with it.

This. It’s about bodily autonomy, which is the backbone of a civilised society in my opinion. If we think it’s humane to euthanise animals that are suffering why can’t we accept the same is true of humans?

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 27/03/2026 11:09

hholiday · 27/03/2026 10:58

But people do have issues when animal charities rescue neglected pets and then put them down because nobody comes forward to look after them, they’ve had a difficult life in the past, and there simply aren’t the resources made available to look after them. I feel like, in the case of humans, those resources should be found.

Yes I agree - But - they aren't being and likely never will be until we reach a post scarcity society. So what do we do until then?

MissyPants · 27/03/2026 11:09

People are missing my point.
The only thing in her life she had control over was her 'right' to live, it was her right, so this should be respected. This is what this movement is all about and supports.

She didn't have control over anything else as all of that was taken from her, right from her childhood, the abuse she suffered and even down to having no control of her own body as she was paralysed.

And I still think it's relevant that people can put animals to sleep but humans can't make this decision themselves. Even if you do eat animals but not humans, and even if it is legal to put down an animal at the drop of a hat 🙄

FieldOfBluebells · 27/03/2026 11:10

CharlotteRumpling · 27/03/2026 10:36

This could easily happen with the CoL rising. I don't know what I think about state euthanasia, to be perfectly honest.
I can easily see my mum doing this to not be a "burden". Because she's completely selfless and adores her grandchildren.

It could even more easily happen in mental health services. They are primed for it, frankly.

Even before the auteristy years, before everything else was underfunded, people were routinely told there was no help and if they had mental capacity it was their choice to end their lives. There's no way of saying "I am suicidal but trying to find another way out" and actually receiving appropriate treatment/support.

Even worse now, with no meaningful therapy (and harsher living conditions) healing becomes further out of reach, and overstretched services will simply remind people they have capacity and responsibility if they wish to die. Then a referral to euthanasia services...

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 11:11

CharlotteRumpling · 27/03/2026 10:57

Really? is this right? Seems a very bad idea. All the women in my family live very long, until mid 90s. But they have a good quality of life. Shouldn't be pushed into euthanasia.

Yes,
https://nypost.com/2026/02/26/world-news/shocking-report-exposes-terrifying-reality-of-assisted-suicide-in-canada/

In Ontario alone it is dozens every year and even more for the day after they submitted first request.

Shocking report exposes terrifying reality of assisted suicide in Canada

In one shocking case, a woman in her 80s known as Mrs B was given euthanasia despite withdrawing her request, after her husband requested it again on her behalf.

https://nypost.com/2026/02/26/world-news/shocking-report-exposes-terrifying-reality-of-assisted-suicide-in-canada/

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:15

MissyPants · 27/03/2026 11:09

People are missing my point.
The only thing in her life she had control over was her 'right' to live, it was her right, so this should be respected. This is what this movement is all about and supports.

She didn't have control over anything else as all of that was taken from her, right from her childhood, the abuse she suffered and even down to having no control of her own body as she was paralysed.

And I still think it's relevant that people can put animals to sleep but humans can't make this decision themselves. Even if you do eat animals but not humans, and even if it is legal to put down an animal at the drop of a hat 🙄

But no one was stopping her from committing suicide, and I believe she was physically capable of enacting it, so I'm not sure why the state needed to be involved in this particular case.

My unease around the issue is that normalising state assisted suicide may demotivate a state from improving its (usually dreadful) care of people with mental health issues, disabilities, or other things that cost them money, and place even more pressure on people to seek euthanasia instead of support.

If she (and her parents) had been given better care and support earlier on in life, she may not have ended up in that terrible situation.

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:16

The only thing that matters in this debate is bodily autonomy. Yes, of course there must be a safeguarding and approval process and in the UK at least the legalisation is not proposing opening euthanasia up to anyone who fancies it or “feels a burden”. If you don’t meet the criteria you won’t get it. But giving seriously ill and suffering people the right to choose when to die is the only humane solution. If the slippery slope argument is correct (and I don’t buy it) frankly it’s a risk worth taking.

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:17

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:15

But no one was stopping her from committing suicide, and I believe she was physically capable of enacting it, so I'm not sure why the state needed to be involved in this particular case.

My unease around the issue is that normalising state assisted suicide may demotivate a state from improving its (usually dreadful) care of people with mental health issues, disabilities, or other things that cost them money, and place even more pressure on people to seek euthanasia instead of support.

If she (and her parents) had been given better care and support earlier on in life, she may not have ended up in that terrible situation.

I do agree support and care must also exist and needs improvement. But that can and should exist concurrently to giving people a choice to end their life.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 11:19

MissyPants · 27/03/2026 11:09

People are missing my point.
The only thing in her life she had control over was her 'right' to live, it was her right, so this should be respected. This is what this movement is all about and supports.

She didn't have control over anything else as all of that was taken from her, right from her childhood, the abuse she suffered and even down to having no control of her own body as she was paralysed.

And I still think it's relevant that people can put animals to sleep but humans can't make this decision themselves. Even if you do eat animals but not humans, and even if it is legal to put down an animal at the drop of a hat 🙄

I think you are missing the point that almost everyone who suffers that amount of trauma and acquires such severe physical disabilities WILL then suffer suicidal depression as a result. Most people would go into suicidal depression after just a fraction of what she went through.

The fact she had suffered so much in her short life makes it more likely that she was not in her right mind making this choice and required suicide prevention mental health care instead of her own physicians agreeing she is good for nothing but a human rubbish tip and signing off on euthanising her. All she needed was someone to see her and her life as worth living. I think that because she was a complex case, the physicians took the easy and cheaper way out.

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:25

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:17

I do agree support and care must also exist and needs improvement. But that can and should exist concurrently to giving people a choice to end their life.

Was anyone stopping her from making that choice to end her life, and doing so herself, though?

My issue (aside from how horrendously sad and unfair the situation and her suffering was), is simply that when someone is capable of ending their own life themselves, is it necessary and beneficial to normalise the state doing it for them?

CAMHShelp · 27/03/2026 11:33

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 27/03/2026 09:57

I'll shut down my high court case today. Sorry I did not realise as a man I could not have an opinion. So sorry everyone. I'll back out quietly.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-school-court-changing-rooms

Why would you shut this down? You are making no sense. What has this got to do with abortion?

Women have been saying this for years but since a man has said it, let’s all sit up and listen.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 11:37

Can we all agree that abortion and putting pets to sleep are both not at all comparable to euthanasia? And that the topic of this thread, euthanasia, is one where all opinions from all humans count?

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:38

OtterlyAstounding · 27/03/2026 11:25

Was anyone stopping her from making that choice to end her life, and doing so herself, though?

My issue (aside from how horrendously sad and unfair the situation and her suffering was), is simply that when someone is capable of ending their own life themselves, is it necessary and beneficial to normalise the state doing it for them?

In my opinion yes, purely because it’s safer, in a controlled environment, and likely to feature less suffering during the process. And unlike self-enacted suicide it will work.

5128gap · 27/03/2026 11:45

Anewerforest · 27/03/2026 07:57

Yes men do terrible things but they are human beings with other qualities too. I wonder how the mothers of sons feel, hearing them described as monsters in the making . Thank God for the nice Nigels.

I'm a mother of two adult sons. I've never once thought that by discussing the harm caused to women by male patterned behaviour that those women were accusing my sons of being 'monsters in the making'. I've always understood perfectly that some men are monsters and that they pose a real and significant threat both to women and to other men, and made it my business to teach my sons this too.
I am happy to report both of my sons are in full agreement and wouldn't dream of interrupting a thread about bad men to point out they were good men. Nor would they expect women to do it on their behalf.

FiatLuxAdAstra · 27/03/2026 11:45

thesealion · 27/03/2026 11:38

In my opinion yes, purely because it’s safer, in a controlled environment, and likely to feature less suffering during the process. And unlike self-enacted suicide it will work.

This was a young woman with a history of suicidal thoughts, ideation and attempts caused by serious trauma. We should not be making suicide easier for the suicidally depressed instead of helping them regain mental wellness with trauma therapy, disability assistance, and supported living.

Nor should we celebrate “bodily autonomy” in a way that indicates it is not only socially acceptable but in a way desirable for the physically disabled and mentally unwell to feel suicidal and to help them off themselves.

The thoughts of I can’t blame her she must have been suffering so much is rooted in ableism. Disabled people hear this all the time. I’d rather die than be incontinent and need someone to wipe my bum. Look at all the work done by Liz Carr on this topic.

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