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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Cathy Newman stumped by Jordan Peterson

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deadpan · 02/03/2026 07:22

This twitter post by Sall Grover shows Cathy Newman interview Jordan Peterson on Channel 4 news.
She's challenging him about his views on trans people and asks if he cares about how his right to free speech could offend anyone.
I'm no fan of Peterson but his reply is fantastic and completely stumps Cathy Newman.

https://x.com/salltweets/status/2027540464191287329?s=20

Sall Grover (@salltweets) on X

Far too many people never understood the lesson expertly displayed in this exchange.

https://x.com/salltweets/status/2027540464191287329?s=20

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5128gap · 04/03/2026 10:45

Shedmistress · 04/03/2026 10:05

What did you think of the Chloe Cole interview?

I'd have rather have heard more from Chloe and less from him. However given he was explaining things that I personally think are rather obvious, I don't disagree with him. I think he glossed over the impact of socialisation on male and female behaviour patterns in favour of biological explanations.

5128gap · 04/03/2026 10:57

Sausagenbacon · 04/03/2026 08:59

And, a lot of posters are not 'overlooking' his awful views because he is GC. They are here because they agree with his awful views. The fact he is GC just provides a handy 'in' to platform him on a feminist board.
again, can we have evidence of this?
Or is it just another 'everyone who disagrees with me is thick or Hitler' post?

Edited

Can you provide evidence that I think 'everyone who disagrees with me is thick or Hitler'?
Of course you can't.
You are making assumptions about what I believe based on my posts.
Similarly, when I see people on the feminist board promoting, celebrating or defending men with a history of rhetoric that does not align with feminism, because they 'know what a woman is' I assume that they are supportive of the man's views in general and are using his GC stance as an excuse to platform him here.
Because as I've said before 'knowing what a woman is' and supporting feminist aims are two entirely different things.

TempestTost · 04/03/2026 13:16

This functional rejection of the possibility of sex based differernces is a big part of why we are where we are, inlcuding in areas like women's sports.

"If people knew there were biological differernces between man and women physically, it might be difficult to get them in to jobs like firefighter, or soldier, in equal numbers."

Well, fine, yes, but not because people are sexists. But because it may be that fewer women will qualify.

Is it the case that somewhat fewer women are inclined to be CEOs or perhaps have the qualities of CEOs, for biological reasons? Maybe, but if so, it's not actually saying it that creates the issue, is it?

Peterson's view on psychological differernces between men and women isn't actually that far out - it's not universally agreed on but it's a common viewpoint among psychologists. And it doesn't deny sociological and learned differernces. He bases it on personality trait differernces - at the population level, and which are on a spectrum - that are consistent across cultures, which is an indicator that they aren't learned. As is the fact that they show up even wheer you would expect people to have learned differently.

He says himself that they are not massive. But I think we are all educated enough to know that even small differences like this in populations can have a significant effect sometimes in terms of things like who goes into what kinds of jobs.

As for not wanting women as leaders in business? I have seen him talk about this in interviews and I think he finds the accusation flummoxing, not least because he spent a lot of time in his career helping women who were in roles like that learn how to better manage things like excessive agreeableness in order to progress in their careers by being more assertive.

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