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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
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Greenkitchenwalls · 11/02/2026 07:08

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 10/02/2026 20:08

“It's a sledgehammer to crack a nut”

The “nut” being.. the rape of babies!!!

Jesus fucking Christ.

And one instance of CSA is one too many. I don't disagree. I'm not sure if you read the bit where I said my own children were subjected to abuse in a childcare setting. I have spent the last two years advocating for changes in the law, I've been working with our local council, inspection body and regulators to change laws allowing unsupervised and unchecked access to children. I'm in no way minimising the crimes, our family has been devastated and changed forever by our experiences.

What I will say is that I don't think that banning males completely is the correct way to go about fixing the problem. It's a band aid over a number of wider issues around misogyny, gender roles, equality, sex, pornography, and the value of childcare as a role.

How do we raise a generation of men to be equal caregivers, to see childcare and education as important and valuable work, to be (good) stay at home dads, to nurture and protect children and babies, if we say to them from the very start that they are too dangerous to look after them?

And in my case it would have made zero difference anyway.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 11/02/2026 07:11

I keep going back to the line from the pp about her research that 90% of these crimes could be ended just by removing this 10% of the workforce.

I do think it's relevant that these cases always seem to be in day nurseries rather than any other form of early years childcare. Long hours, large staff teams.

SecretSquirrelLoo · 11/02/2026 07:28

If there aren’t enough suitable applicants for jobs, we need to raise wages, not employ unsuitable people.

Funny how unions and professional organizations kept women out of as many jobs as possible to keep male wages up. But jobs that are only suitable for women remain low paid, even though the applicant pool is small.

Arran2024 · 11/02/2026 09:20

SecretSquirrelLoo · 11/02/2026 07:28

If there aren’t enough suitable applicants for jobs, we need to raise wages, not employ unsuitable people.

Funny how unions and professional organizations kept women out of as many jobs as possible to keep male wages up. But jobs that are only suitable for women remain low paid, even though the applicant pool is small.

The problem is that no one wants to pay for the increased wages. When the Gov NI increase came in last year, most nurseries passed the cost onto parents. Several of the parents at my daughter's nursery left as a result.

Various governments have tried to increase the professionalism of the sector by setting higher qualifications for staff, only to have to back track as it isn't workable - if you can get these higher qualifications you are probably going to go and work somewhere else with better pay. And the staff who can't get the qualifications would have to leave.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 11/02/2026 10:20

Greenkitchenwalls · 11/02/2026 07:08

And one instance of CSA is one too many. I don't disagree. I'm not sure if you read the bit where I said my own children were subjected to abuse in a childcare setting. I have spent the last two years advocating for changes in the law, I've been working with our local council, inspection body and regulators to change laws allowing unsupervised and unchecked access to children. I'm in no way minimising the crimes, our family has been devastated and changed forever by our experiences.

What I will say is that I don't think that banning males completely is the correct way to go about fixing the problem. It's a band aid over a number of wider issues around misogyny, gender roles, equality, sex, pornography, and the value of childcare as a role.

How do we raise a generation of men to be equal caregivers, to see childcare and education as important and valuable work, to be (good) stay at home dads, to nurture and protect children and babies, if we say to them from the very start that they are too dangerous to look after them?

And in my case it would have made zero difference anyway.

Edited

10% of the work force commit 90% of the sexual abuse.

Removing that 10% automatically reduces the sexual abuse by 90%.

That’s a really quick and effective fix and a great foundation to start making other changes.

steppemum · 11/02/2026 11:10

I am really confused by the rest of the staff in this setting too.

I run a kids camp every year.
I do safeguarding trainign for all the leaders before the camp begins.
One of the basics of safeguarding training is to say it is the responsibility of all of us. That if we see anything we are uncomfortable with, it is our duty to report that to the safeguarding lead.
Then the Safeguarding Lead will follow it up.

So when did the staff in this setting last do safeguarding training? And who did it? and how well trained were they?
In schools it is updated annually.
What are the guidelines for nurseries?

In our church Sunday school - one hour per week with mutiple adults in the room - they are not allowed to help unless they have safeguarding training.
Again, one of the basics is - if you see anything you are not happy with - report.

I cannot get my head around staff in a childcare setting being unhappy with another member of staff and not reporting.

Netcurtainnelly · 11/02/2026 15:58

Holes in his trousers deliberately. What a weirdo. I'd hate to be his mother.

VioletSpeedwell · 11/02/2026 16:49

What a lot of word salad in that article.

balletflatblister · 12/02/2026 20:29

I chose a childcare arrangement that included no male workers, and where I could be sure none would ever be employed. I got a lot of eye rolls and aggressive anecdotes about how fandabbydozie Mr so and so was at their kids' nursery. Turns out my prejudices were spot on. I don't care about the project of 'teaching men' how to 'be good role models' when it's the safety of my children on the line.

No regrets at all. Sometimes prejudice is justified and this is the best example I can think of.

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