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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Men are the secondary sex'

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ArabellaScott · 09/02/2026 10:27

https://designmom.substack.com/p/males-are-the-secondary-sex

I'd call this a bit of a thought experiment.

Author describes the 'drone behaviour' of men, and considers a shift in how we see men and women's roles.

I've not looked deeply into the assertions she makes, some of them seem a bit wild, but thought it may be of interest.

Males Are the Secondary Sex

Don't believe me? Let me walk you through it.

https://designmom.substack.com/p/males-are-the-secondary-sex

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IwantToRetire · 11/02/2026 01:32

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 11/02/2026 01:02

There have been other threads on whether at one time most societies were matriarchal, and men just did frivilous things like hunt which kept them out of the way, while women did the organising and crop, vegitable cultivation which was the main source of food.

I think you’re a bit confused, the demographic lounging around and doing frivolous stuff are the ones in power while the ones doing the grunt work are the ones not in charge. You’ve described a patriarchy.

If we were to compare this to class you might understand the concept better:
Aristocracy- out of the way doing frivolous stuff like hunting
Peasants- farming crops and all the rest

I you had bothered to read the thread properly you would have seen I was being sarcastic and referencing points made in earlier threads.

Honestly just swooping in and selecting something just to be able to make a point a teenage "marxist" you think is stunningly orginal makes thread sort of not be threads at all.

So suggest you re-read and understand.

Not just dole out hopelessly male class analysis.

And even though my actual post was humourous, and not doubt women did the majority of the hard work, the context actually is is that women were doing the work that consistently sustained the community. Men just did the added extras. And power at that time was that women were running the communities how they wanted. And some of that was just not having the men around as they were useless.

If it had been at a later period of time, as I referenced in another post, when men realised they could claim children by being the biological father and from that the concepts of ownership took over, your point might have been a bit more valid.

Sigh.

IwantToRetire · 12/02/2026 18:37

Friday the 13th is celebrated as a day of divine feminine energy, reclaiming it from superstitions to honor goddess traditions, fertility, and the 13 lunar/menstrual cycles in a year. Historically, Friday is named after the goddess Frigg/Freya, making the combination a sacred day for honoring feminine intuition, creativity, and power.

Key reasons for the celebration include:

  • The Power of 13: The number 13 aligns with the 13 lunar cycles in a year and the approximate number of menstrual cycles, representing natural, feminine, and fertility-focused rhythms.
  • The Goddess Day: Friday is named after the Norse goddess Frigg or Freya, associated with love, beauty, and fertility.
  • Reclaiming History: Many believe the negative stigma around this day was established to diminish the power of pagan, matriarchal, and Goddess-worshipping cultures, which focused on the natural cycles of life, death, and rebirth.
  • Celebration Actions: It is considered an ideal time to honor the feminine, gather in sisterhood, perform rituals, and focus on intuition and self-care.

Instead of a day of bad luck, it is embraced by many as a powerful day to celebrate the "divine feminine" and the natural, creative, and intuitive forces within all people.

I quite fancy a 13 month 28 day year.

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/02/2026 21:21

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SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/02/2026 21:24

IwantToRetire · 12/02/2026 18:37

Friday the 13th is celebrated as a day of divine feminine energy, reclaiming it from superstitions to honor goddess traditions, fertility, and the 13 lunar/menstrual cycles in a year. Historically, Friday is named after the goddess Frigg/Freya, making the combination a sacred day for honoring feminine intuition, creativity, and power.

Key reasons for the celebration include:

  • The Power of 13: The number 13 aligns with the 13 lunar cycles in a year and the approximate number of menstrual cycles, representing natural, feminine, and fertility-focused rhythms.
  • The Goddess Day: Friday is named after the Norse goddess Frigg or Freya, associated with love, beauty, and fertility.
  • Reclaiming History: Many believe the negative stigma around this day was established to diminish the power of pagan, matriarchal, and Goddess-worshipping cultures, which focused on the natural cycles of life, death, and rebirth.
  • Celebration Actions: It is considered an ideal time to honor the feminine, gather in sisterhood, perform rituals, and focus on intuition and self-care.

Instead of a day of bad luck, it is embraced by many as a powerful day to celebrate the "divine feminine" and the natural, creative, and intuitive forces within all people.

I quite fancy a 13 month 28 day year.

Yes well unfortunately, a lunar calendar is not accurate for determining a year. That is why most societies transitioned to a lunar-solar calendar no later than 7,000 BCE.

But hey if you want to regress to the Bronze Age, who am I to argue?

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 12/02/2026 21:26

IwantToRetire · 11/02/2026 01:32

I you had bothered to read the thread properly you would have seen I was being sarcastic and referencing points made in earlier threads.

Honestly just swooping in and selecting something just to be able to make a point a teenage "marxist" you think is stunningly orginal makes thread sort of not be threads at all.

So suggest you re-read and understand.

Not just dole out hopelessly male class analysis.

And even though my actual post was humourous, and not doubt women did the majority of the hard work, the context actually is is that women were doing the work that consistently sustained the community. Men just did the added extras. And power at that time was that women were running the communities how they wanted. And some of that was just not having the men around as they were useless.

If it had been at a later period of time, as I referenced in another post, when men realised they could claim children by being the biological father and from that the concepts of ownership took over, your point might have been a bit more valid.

Sigh.

Your post was not humorous, was skimpy on facts and contained personal attacks.

My response was deleted for simply matching your tone. Enjoy.

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